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View Poll Results: Wrestlezone Hall of Fame, Summer 2013, Group 1. Who will it be?
Bret Hart 22 56.41%
Mick Foley 6 15.38%
Dusty Rhodes 11 28.21%
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Old 08-22-2013, 04:49 PM
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Welcome to the next installment of inductions into the Wrestlezone Hall of Fame! Here, you'll get the chance to choose one of wrestling's biggest stars for inclusion into the WZ HOF, where he'll join the likes of Hulk Hogan, Andre The Giant, Lou Thesz, Shawn Michaels, and others. I offer you three candidates, please vote for the one you find worthy for induction. The polls will be open for one week.

Mick Foley


Inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2013, the "Hardcore Legend" looks to add Wrestlezone Hall of Famer to his resume as well! After four years in WCW as Cactus Jack, feuding with the likes of Sting, Vader, Harley Race and Vader, Foley left WCW, where he had begun his legacy as arguably the greatest Hardcore wrestler that ever lived. Foley's unconventional style and pention for brutality towards both his opponents (and himself) turned him from a heel to a face who was extremely popular with fans. His match with Vader, for example, in the main event of Halloween Havoc 1993 is considered to be one of the most brutal matches in WCW history.

Upon leaving WCW in 1994, Foley branched out and spent time in ECW, Smoky Mountain Wrestling, and the IWA in Japan, where Foley expanded his Hardcore legend. After two years performing in the three companies, Foley signed a contract with the WWF, where he debuted the 'Three faces Of Foley', Mankind, Cactus Jack, and Dude Love. It was in the WWF/E that Foley had his greatest success, including his Boiler Room Brawl with The Undertaker as Mankind, capturing the WWF tag team championships with Steve Austin as Dude Love, and being thrown off Hell in A Cell by the Undertaker at King of The Ring 1998.

This elevated Foley in the eyes of fans, and in one of the greatest moments in Raw history, Foley won the first of his three WWF Championships on January 4th, 1999 as Mankind, defeating The Rock for the title.


Foley won two more WWF titles following this, and upon signing with TNA in 2008, won the TNA World Heavyweight Championship, becoming only the second wrestler in history to win both the WWF/E and TNA Championships.

Mick Foley is truly one of the most innovative and creative wrestlers in the history of wrestling. Not only a character, Foley is easily one of the greatest talkers in the history of wrestling. From his early days in ECW to his recent run-in with CM Punk, Foley's legacy will not only be defined as a character, but as a great talker with the ability to get his point across. Whether comedic or serious, Foley's true stamp as an excellent talker has always been his ability to get other wrestlers over with the crowd. The issues he focuses on during promos are the very same issues that should be on wrestling fans’ minds.

The innovation of his character, his legendary feuds with Sting, The Undertaker, The Rock, HHH and Randy Orton, amongst others, and his talking ability all make Foley a worthy candidate for addition in the Wrestlezone Hall Of Fame!

Bret Hart


The "Excellence of Execution" is making his second go-around as a candidate for the Wrestlezone Hall of Fame. Elected into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2006, "The Hitman" looks to add 'Wrestlezone Hall of Famer' to his resume as well!

Born into the legenday Hart family in Calgary, Hart began his training at a young age in the infamous Hart family Dungeon, first as an observer, then as a student. It was there that he honed his skills that leave him widely regarded as one of the greatest, if not the greatest, submission wrestlers of all time. His Sharpshooter submission was virtually unbreakable once applied.

Bret found early success in Stampede Wrestling in Cagary, his father's promotion, and later, in New Japan Pro Wrestling as well. But his rise to true prominence came in 1984, when he signed with the WWF and joined Jimmy Hart's stable The Hart Foundation, where he and Jim Neidhart won the WWF Tag Team Championships twice. After breaking off from the Hart foundation, Hart found success by winning both the Intercontinental Title twice, feuding with Roddy Piper, Shawn Michaels, and Davey Boy Smith, amongst others.

Bret won the first of his 5 WWF Championships from Ric Flair in 1992, and until his departure from the company in 1997, he was widely regarded along with Shawn Michaels as the face of the WWF. Along the way, he had exciting and very personal feuds with the likes of the Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, his brother Owen, and perhaps his greatest match ever, against Steve Austin in a Submissions Match at Wrestlemania 13.


Hart left the WWF in controversy in 1997 after the Montreal Screwjob incident with Shawn Michaels as he was headed to WCW. It was there he furthered his legacy by becoming the first Triple Crown Winner in both WWF and WCW history. Had it not been for a concussion that prematurely ended his career, he likely would have amassed more then the two WCW World Championships he won.

Bret Hart is widely considered to be one of the greatest technicians, ring generals, and submission specialists in professional wrestling history. His in-ring psychology is considered to be second to none, and countless superstars have listed Bret as their greatest opponent. "The Hitman" is without a doubt a worthy candidate for a spot in the Wrestlezone Hall of Fame!

Dusty Rhodes


"The American Dream" Dusty Rhodes, the "Common Man", is without a doubt one of the most charismatic, entertaining, and popular wrestlers to every step foot into the 4-sided ring. Be it in the NWA, WCW, the WWF, or Japan, Rhodes was one of the largest if not the largest draw of the 70's and 80's, where he consistently drew large crowds wherever he performed. Inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame in 2007, Rhodes looks to add Wrestlezone Hall of Famer to his illustrious resume!

The three time NWA Champion began his career as a heel apart of the 'Texas Outlaws' alongside "Dirty" Dick Murdock in the AWA, but the fast-talking southerner quickly won over the fans despite his rule-breaking ways, and launched into Superstardom and a solo career as a face after breaking off from Murdoch.

Rhodes was involved in some of the greatest feuds of all-time, including men like Terry Funk, Stan Hansen, Ric Flair, Harley Race, and perhaps, most famously Tully Blanchard. Rhodes' three NWA championship wins came at the expense of two of the all-time greats, where he took the title from Race twice and Flair once. His title match against Race in 1982, while not a 5-star mat classic, showed excitement in wrestling that is rarely seen today.


An unconventional wrestler, Rhodes was an inspiration to the common man. His promos had the ability to rally fans around him in ways that few else in wrestling history ever have. As a booker, wrestler, promo man, and father, few have had the impact on the wrestling business that Dusty Rhodes has had. All of these make Rhodes a worthy candidate for the Wrestlezone Hall of Fame!

Who will it be, Wrestlezone? Mick Foley? Bret Hart? Dusty Rhodes? The choice is yours! Discuss and debate in here as well, as you have seven days to choose the next entrant!
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Bret Hart SHOULD win this and therefore I will be writing as to why I think his accolades make him MORE Hall of Famer worthy than his competitors.

Bret Hart is the excellence of execution. In his prime there was nobody greater than Bret hart and that often gets forgotten in modern wrestling. Everyone remembers Hart for "4/10" or for being that grumpy old guy who complains about wrestling, who is super overrated. Well guess what Bret Hart's past prestige and glory should NEVER be forgotten and should be touted for being just what his moniker says it is "the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be." Bret Hart has had several A level matches, several masterpieces, and will most likely be remembered as the King of Summerslam. He made people performers so much greater and improved Everybody in the locker-room. His presence and talent benefited everyone.

Mick Foley and Dusty Rhodes WILL be WZ HOFers. Bret Hart is just a tad better. Maybe 4/10s better than the others.
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Bret Hart SHOULD win this and therefore I will be writing as to why I think his accolades make him MORE Hall of Famer worthy than his competitors.

Bret Hart is the excellence of execution. In his prime there was nobody greater than Bret hart and that often gets forgotten in modern wrestling. Everyone remembers Hart for "4/10" or for being that grumpy old guy who complains about wrestling, who is super overrated. Well guess what Bret Hart's past prestige and glory should NEVER be forgotten and should be touted for being just what his moniker says it is "the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be." Bret Hart has had several A level matches, several masterpieces, and will most likely be remembered as the King of Summerslam. He made people performers so much greater and improved Everybody in the locker-room. His presence and talent benefited everyone.

Mick Foley and Dusty Rhodes WILL be WZ HOFers. Bret Hart is just a tad better. Maybe 4/10s better than the others.


Tad bit better because maybe you grew up on the guy. Which I doubt.

Dusty was a bonafide draw in the territorial days. If JR puts him in the same league as Austin when it comes to who drew the most and worked on top AND hailed from Texas, you are talking about a special performer. Dusty has always been someone whose promos and (I can't stress this enough), storytelling are compelling to watch. His match with Race, Superstar Billy Graham, Flair and him tagging with Andre will show you just show you how over the man was.


I like Bret. I like Foley. But Dusty deserves the tip of the hat first.
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Tad bit better because maybe you grew up on the guy. Which I doubt.
Nope can't say I did really grow up on the guy considering I've only been a fan of wrestling since maybe 2007 but since then I've seen and read a lot of his matches and have lived in Calgary so perhaps I can be considered bias.

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Dusty was a bonafide draw in the territorial days. If JR puts him in the same league as Austin when it comes to who drew the most and worked on top AND hailed from Texas, you are talking about a special performer.
I do agree with you that for sure he was a huge draw in "territorial days" was relatively strong on promos and had that special "IT" factor but one thing that for me personally I can't get behind is his "wrestling" which if we're judging his territorial days as the pinnacle of his career then they're for me personally only average.

Bret Hart could preform amazing in his prime, had the "IT" factor and I believe was decent on the much I think if we were to put up his "promo ability versus Dusty's wrestling ability as to what's the breaker I think Bret is overall better. But once again that's my opinion where I'm comparing too different categories so of course their is no factual way of getting an answer.

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I'm not going to disagree with you on his drawing abilities as there is nothing to argue he absolutely was a draw I just think the amount of great promos Bret had is only slightly less than Rhodes whilst great matches is highly in Bret's favor, with the intangibles being even because a ot of the above you give Rhodes credit for the same could be said about Hart.

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And like I said I'm taking Bret by 4/10 and I know I'm biased. They both have great talent and great skill and all should eventually be in it first but in this case I give it to Bret first. But if t is Dusty well guess what? I'm not complaining.
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Dusty drew well in territories, Bret drew incredibly well intentionally. So if we're strictly taking drawing into account here, Bret Hart wins BY FAR.

But, it's not about just how many butts someone could put in the seats (and if it is, Bret still wins). It's also about quality, and there's not many in the history of pro wrestling who come close to matching the amount of quality matches and moments Bret has given the sport/business. You can't name 5 guys who have had more "classic" matches than Bret Hart. And surely out of those 5, Dusty and Mick Foley would not make that list.

I love Mick Foley and would vote for him over a LOT of people. I'm also a fan of Dusty Rhodes. However, Bret Hart is so far and away above both those guys that this shouldn't even be a contest. Dusty and Mick would tell you so themselves.
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I also voted for Bret.

I'm a huge Mick Foley fan but he was never the top guy in any company, nor was he even the second biggest guy in any company. He's an incredible talent and one of the best to ever pick up a microphone, but there is no way I can put him above Bret. Hart even takes better beatings than Foley does which says a lot. Foley was out almost automatically.

That leaves us with Dusty vs. Bret and again I didn't have to think that long. Dusty was a big deal and very influential, but look at today's wrestling where smaller guys dominate a lot of the business. Bret Hart is one of the names you hear when those people are asked for their inspirations. Hart kept the WWF going in the mid 90s and gave Steve Austin the rub of a lifetime in 1996/7 which ultimately saved the company. Couple that with some amazing matches against almost anyone he faced (dude dragged three very good matches out of Kevin freaking Nash) and some underrated talking abilities and it's Bret all the way.

All three deserve to go in, but there's not much of a contest here.
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Bret Hart deserves this the most out of the three. Each of these wrestlers is a legend and they all deserve to go into our Hall of Fame, but Bret should be the first of them to be inducted. I can't believe he isn't one of our Hall of Famers yet. Let's take a look at some of their accomplishments.

BRET HART
  • WWE United States Championship (1 time)
  • WWF Championship (5 times)
  • WWF Intercontinental Championship (2 times)
  • WWF Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with Jim Neidhart
  • King of the Ring (1991, 1993)
  • Royal Rumble (1994)
  • WWE Crown Champion
  • WWE Hall of Fame (Class of 2006)
  • WWC Caribbean Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Smith Hart
  • WCW World Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
  • WCW United States Championship (4 times)
  • WCW World Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Goldberg
  • WCW Triple Crown Champion
  • NWA International Tag Team Championship (5 times) – with Keith Hart (4) and Leo Burke (1)
  • Stampede British Commonwealth Mid-Heavyweight Championship (3 times)
  • Stampede North American Heavyweight Championship (6 times)
  • Stampede Wrestling Hall of Fame



MICK FOLEY
  • CWA Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Gary Young
  • ECW World Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with Mikey Whipwreck
  • MSW North American Championship (3 times)
  • IWA World Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Tracy Smothers
  • NAW Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWL Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • OMW North American Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • SCW Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with The Blue Meanie
  • TNA Legends Championship (1 time)
  • TNA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • WCW World Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Kevin Sullivan
  • USWA World Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Scott Braddock
  • WCWA World Light Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • WCWA World Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with Super Zodiak II (1) and Scott Braddock (1)
  • WWF Championship (3 times)
  • WWF Hardcore Championship (1 time)
  • WWF Tag Team Championship (8 times) – with Stone Cold Steve Austin (1), Chainsaw Charlie (1), Kane (2), Al Snow (1) and The Rock (3)
  • WWE Hall of Fame (Class of 2013)




DUSTY RHODES
  • NWA Central States Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWA North American Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Dick Murdoch
  • NWA Brass Knuckles Championship (2 times)
  • NWA Florida Bahamian Championship (1 time)
  • NWA Florida Global Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Magnum T.A.
  • NWA Florida Heavyweight Championship (10 times)
  • NWA Florida Tag Team Championship (4 times) – with Dick Murdoch (1), Dick Slater (1), Bobo Brazil (1), and Andrι the Giant (1)
  • NWA Florida Television Championship (2 times)
  • NWA Southern Heavyweight Championship (7 times)
  • NWA United States Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with Bugsy McGraw (1) and Blackjack Mulligan (1)
  • NWA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWA Georgia Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWA National Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWA Television Championship (1 time)
  • NWA United States Heayvweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWA World Six-Man Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with The Road Warriors
  • NWA World Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with Dick Slater (1) and Manny Fernandez (1)
  • NWA World Television Championship (2 times)
  • WCW Hall of Fame (Class of 1995)
  • NWA Hall of Fame (Class of 2011)
  • NWA American Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with Baron Von Raschke (1) and Dick Murdoch (1)
  • NWA Brass Knuckles Championship (2 times)
  • NWA World Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Dick Murdoch
  • NWA Mid-Atlantic Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Buff Bagwell
  • NWA North American Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWA United States Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWA North American Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWA United States Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Andrι the Giant
  • NWF World Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Dick Murdoch
  • IWA World Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Dick Murdoch
  • WWE Hall of Fame (Class of 2007)




There is no denying the legend status of all three of these wrestlers. ALL of them deserve to be inducted into our Hall of Fame at some point. All are skilled on the mic with their promos, all have won a lengthy list of championships from multiple federations, and all were great in the ring during their respective primes. However, I absolutely must give my vote to Bret Hart if only one of them can go in. While they all deserve to go in based off of championship victories and career success, when it all comes down to in-ring ability, it's easily Bret Hart. This is a WRESTLING Hall of Fame at the end of the day, and Hart was one of the best WRESTLERS of all time. He is a legend among legends whether you are speaking of career success (kayfabe and real) as well as legitimate skills. Foley and Dusty will get their turn, this is Bret Hart's poll to win.
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While Bret certainly deserves a spot here, I'd like to chime in for Dusty a little more. To quote J.R off the LOW panel, "The greatest superstar out of Texas was Dusty Rhodes. Nobody put more fannies by those 18 inches like Dusty. He worked on top wherever he went."

Now many remember WWE's run with those gosh darned polka dots HOWEVER before that in the mid- 70s, Rhodes had an amazing feud with Superstar Billy Graham when Vince Sr. was in charge.

Go through Dagger's list of accomplishments and you will see that Dusty worked areas like the Mid-Atlantic, Georgia, Florida among others and all the while holding top belts and drawing, DRAWING like gangbusters. I have read many a tales about him and Terry Funk tearing it up in Amarillo as well. His feud with Flair for Starrcade and then his feud with the Horsemen. Just look at the uproar here when the Horsemen break Dusty's leg.




Dusty drew, he drew like Bruno or Andre or Flair and he drew in many territories. That is an amazing feat for a territorial star. Flair has himself said many a time Bruno was known in the North-East; he'd come down to St. Louis and nobody knew who he was. Dusty is someone, just like Andre, who was a national star before national TV expansion really started.
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