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View Poll Results: Kenta Kobashi vs Shawn Michaels, Ironman Match
Kenta Kobashi 46 48.94%
Shawn Michaels 48 51.06%
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I think the right guy won here. Kobashi is an amazing wrestler, and he's fun to watch, but HBK is a better worker.
He absolutely is not.

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Puro is just an easier style to do.
And that is easily one of the most absurd statements I have ever heard in my entire life. I'm actually stunned right now that someone would actually have a notion as foolish as that.

How is the strong style easier to work than the American style? Are you shitting me? It takes a FAR worse physical toll on the performers and FAR more is required physically and in the ring from the wrestlers than those in the United States. How many times do you see HBK getting a Burner Hammer onto a concrete floor? Oh, that's right, never. How many hour long matches has HBK wrestled in his career? Two? Three? As compared to main event matches in Japan routinely going up to and sometimes over an hour in length? This is the easier style than HBK going out to the ring to do his routine of moves (atomic drop, body slam, elbow drop, sweet chin music, repeat) and lay around for about 20 minutes?

I'm literally baffled by that statement.

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To me, the art in professional wrestling is to make it look like you're hurting someone and hitting them while doing as little actual damage as possible. Working stiff is a shortcut. The Japanese style is centered around being stiff, and, to me, it's easy to look like you're hitting someone when you're, you know, actually hitting them.
If the performer is willing to take the physical punishment as these Japanese workers are, how exactly is that a problem? Further more how is that any different from taking a bump, such as the dozens and dozens HBK has taken through tables and off of ladders? In both cases you're physically hurting yourself, and as JR so eloquently likes to put it, "you can't teach someone how to fall".

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By the same token, HBK, for all of his faults (and I don't like the guy at all), is a very safe worker by all accounts, and you barely feel it when he's on the offensive, including his very well done superkick finisher.
Kobashi is simply better in every aspect in the ring though. He's a far better seller than HBK is, he has a reportoire of high-impact power and submission moves that are unlike most that HBK has ever had to deal with on a routine basis in the United States, and absolutely no one in wrestling history can tell the story inside the ring of the underdog rising up to victory like Kobashi can, no one.

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From a kayfabe perspective, it's pretty much even in my mind. Both guys were very good, championship-caliber guys. Neither was overly dominant, they both won and lost often. So I broke kayfabe and went with the better worker. Both are very good workers, very good at what they do...in my mind, Shawn's got a higher level of difficulty, and looks just as good, so I would have voted for him.
I am again simply baffled by your explanation for why you think Shawn is a better worker than Kobashi. You have a vastly different definition to a great worker than the overwhelming majority of people do.
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