When Big E Langston turns babyface

[D-Man]

Originally Posted by boywithbluehanger

Even though I hate negativity for the sake of it, I do think a lot of the people here have a decent argument.

Considering my negativity comes from a pretty logical place and not "for the sake of it", I respectfully disagree.

You're saying that they don't have enough to go on when basing an opinion on Big E. But alternatively, maybe they believe that in some of the very simplistic, basic, tasks that Big E has been asked to perform on RAW, he's managed to fail them.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, I was a completely negative person by nature (which I truly am not.) However, the only post I made in this thread was a picture of my face, smiling at you. Could you possibly tell that I was a negative person or would you assume I was relatively happy? That's my point.

He had a very short speaking part and flubbed it.

If I recall correctly, Steve Austin's first promos as "The Ringmaster" weren't too solid, either. Hence the reason why Ted DiBiase represented him at first.

He doesn't make believably intimidating expressions.

You mean there is a "believable" way to smile at someone? Or frown? Or show anger?

Recent bodyguard roles have not gotten over with the crowd.

Recent? As compared to old ones that have gotten over such as Diesel, Batista, Psycho Sid, and Virgil? Once again, it depends on how they're booked.

Langston has been on the main roster for just over one month. He hasn't had any time for development. How can anyone formulate any logical and fair opinions on him?

There's 3 reasons that someone might have a negative opinion of the Big E character/actor.

There are three reasons. Good thing this discussion isn't about Langston's grammar.

Just because people don't adhere to some imaginary rulebook that states they cannot have a valid opinion until you believe the time's right, doesn't make them morons for doing so.

Imaginary rulebook? What are you talking about?

It's common sense. How much can you know about someone based on them speaking a sentence or two and making a few gestures? That's like holding a job interview where the applicant doesn't answer any of the questions except for telling you their name, smiling, putting a few expressions on their face, and then you're supposed to hire them and determine their future in your company.

[KoC417]

Originally Posted by Radical

The move is supposed to appear as if he is dropping the opponent violently onto their stomach as a gutbuster or something along those lines that would take someones breath away and make them unable to move for a few seconds. It's not supposed to look like a shot to the head or anything.

I'm not saying Big E couldn't adapt another power move but every Finisher can't be a DDT or Submission.

I mean Dolph Ziggler's "Zig Zag" is the most basic of moves ever. It's simply an aided back bump yet someone it knocks people out? And Ziggler is holding the MITB briefcase and bound to be World Champion.

I'm just saying I think they should give him something better. I'm sure somewhere along the line they will but I guess we're stuck with it for now. I just know he is capable of so much more based on his pure strength that something as basic as that should be a set up move or maybe (in video game terms) a "signature move". I wouldn't be opposed to them giving him something like Monty Brown's "pounce". With Big E's size that would look really devastating.
The Zig Zag I can actually buy because a lot of the time it looks like there is whiplash and the selling by Dolph and his opponents is fantastic.

I never doubted that Dolph would be World Champion. I've been saying for a while that the guy is Championship material and that WWE is doing a great job (surprisingly great job actually...) of keeping the belt OFF of Ziggler long enough that people are actually getting on his bandwagon/fan-base in hopes that he gets that reign sooner rather than later.

[ManureTheBear]

Watching both NXT and RAW/SD can get confusing. Both Seth Rollins and Big E have been the NXT champ as faces, then go on to be heels in the bigger shows.

While I get that it's easier to debut as a heel and to get over like that, why not have them heels in NXT to begin with? Is it because people who go to NXT pop loudest for the most talented people, so they are made faces?