TNA Creative Management - Past and Future

[braveh]

Vince Russo wrote some of the best angles, actually the best angles in TNA during his time. I always love his approach to capitalize on the real life issues. The Jarrett/Angle-angle was brilliant in 2011, I didn't like how they brought back Hardy the same year though. Nothing felt real about Hardy's comeback.

On the other hand he never understood how to build for BFG. He even talked about how his first priority was to find a slot for as many wrestlers as possible (sort of like a pay-off for working hard).

Originally Posted by nbkush

as far as Heyman not making national wrestling stars with the original ECW...wrong again...ECW had a ntionally released video game featuring wrestling stars produced by Paul Heyman...if his ECW was regional then i would like to know of all these other regional or indy promotions that have a video game or have secured TV rights to a major cable network

Once Heyman got the golden contract with TNN he couldn't create any stars on tv. He had one year of national tv and he couldn't create his Rock, his Hogan or his Goldberg. If he is such a booking genius then why is that?

Originally Posted by nbkush

fire Prichard, Biscoff, and Hogan...even though he might not officially be on creative he definitly has input and a strong presence. Pay Paul Heyman whatever he wants and let him have complete control of the company in every aspect except for payroll.

Many reports point to Hogan being the major problem with the writing. Apparently he is one of the chefs, one of the writers in the committee and loves to throw things around and to change plans in the last minute (just like Vince I guess but with worse results)

[Weems2k]

Originally Posted by nbkush

and neither of them have all three....ECW is more comparable to the AWA than either of those promotions as far a national presence in wrestling...I still dont understand you being hung up on how long something existed versus how good it was while it existed

Hey nbkush/Darren, The only claim to fame ROH can take is their little movie spot with Mickey Roids, and Ernest The Fat Miller. The reason they have no real TV deal is because no network in their right focking minds would air that garbage.

[nbkush]

Originally Posted by braveh

Vince Russo wrote some of the best angles, actually the best angles in TNA during his time. I always love his approach to capitalize on the real life issues. The Jarrett/Angle-angle was brilliant in 2011, I didn't like how they brought back Hardy the same year though. Nothing felt real about Hardy's comeback.

On the other hand he never understood how to build for BFG. He even talked about how his first priority was to find a slot for as many wrestlers as possible (sort of like a pay-off for working hard).




Once Heyman got the golden contract with TNN he couldn't create any stars on tv. He had one year of national tv and he couldn't create his Rock, his Hogan or his Goldberg. If he is such a booking genius then why is that?



Many reports point to Hogan being the major problem with the writing. Apparently he is one of the chefs, one of the writers in the committee and loves to throw things around and to change plans in the last minute (just like Vince I guess but with worse results)

I'm a Russo fan but I don't think he is on the same level as Heyman....I wasn't comparing ECW's national success to WWF or WCW...I was just making the point that they were national via a video game and cable time slot

Originally Posted by Weems2k

Hey nbkush/Darren, The only claim to fame ROH can take is their little movie spot with Mickey Roids, and Ernest The Fat Miller. The reason they have no real TV deal is because no network in their right focking minds would air that garbage.

ROH blows and the booking, storylines, production and announcing are a joke considering what Heyman was doing with ECW 15yrs ago

[Ovaltine]

I am not sure if Heyman is the answer. I read about some of his ideas for tna and I didn't really care for them. I don't think Bischoff, Prichard or Hogan are right for Impact either. To be honest I have no idea who would be good for Impact. I'd like someone with a grasp on reality based wrestling. Someone willing to make it as real feeling as possible. Russo once said that wrestling matches don't draw and I have to agree with him in that wrestling matched don't draw... if you don't give people a reason to give a shit about the match! There is a reason Sting Vs Hogan was the biggest selling WCW PPV of all time. There is a reason why 95,000 (or something like that) watched Hogan Battle Andre at Wrestlemainia III. It was because people cared about who won! They were given a reason to care about who won. That is what Russo never got and what Bischoff, Hogan and Vince Mcmahon have forgotten. So, in all honesty I have no idea who would be the best choice to book Impact. However, I will say that Impact is an okay show right now. I don't care if I miss an episode, but for the most part I am not cringing through most of it like I use to.

[scomvp316]

I have to disagree with people who think storylines are more important than the match. I remember a few years ago for a month straight on the forums shows of TNA & WWE in that month had a like 80% of their flagship shows of non-wrestling and loyalists of both promotions were highly negative. I do think the recipe is to have a sub-par story with a great match still sells over a great story and a average or below average match

[BretHitmanHart92]

I'm honestly just done with TNA. I'm kind of done with pro wrestling in general lately but always end up getting sucked back into it around WrestleMania time. I've followed TNA since day one literally (I ordered the very first weekly PPV back in 2002). They have some moments but really nothing they've done in the past 11 years has shown me they can compete with Vince and the WWE. And really at this point I'm not even sure I'd watch if they became really good. I think I'm finally ready to move beyond wrestling. I've become much more of a casual viewer in the past several years.

Anyways, if I had to pick my absolute favorite "era" of TNA it would be between 2006-2009. As big of a Hogan mark as I am I think him and Bischoff completely ruined it when they joined in 2010. I though the creative team of Russo and Cornette were actually putting on a decent product. Not great but compared to now it was way better back then. Back when Samoa Joe was about 50 pounds lighter and was one of the best, they had the six sided ring still, the X-Division meant something, Kurt Angle meant something, Abyss was still cool, they had Christian Cage and Tomko.

The only thing good they have right now is some of the talent and honestly at this point I really wouldn't mind and actually kind of want to see Vince buy the company and see what guys like Joe, Roode, Aries, Storm, AJ Styles could do in the WWE and would love to see guys like Kurt Angle, Bully Ray and RVD return as well as Sting finally end his career in the WWE.