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Old 01-02-2013, 03:08 PM
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Lesnar needs Heyman; Punk does not. Its that simple. WWE made a wise move when they brought in Heyman to work with Lesnar. Brock isn't good on the mic, and Heyman is. They also made a wise move when they put Paul Heyman with CM Punk. It help put Punk over as a heel (not that he couldn't have on his own.) Heyman has an unbelievable amount of talent on the mic, and his ability to draw heat is above average. If and when Lesnar comes back, it would be a good idea to reunite him with Heyman. Punk will be just fine.

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Do you think Heyman would just split from Punk? Or do you see him moonlighting then going back to Punk when Lesnar does his disappearing act again?
I'm a huge fan of Heyman, but I'm not sure if he has a long-term future if Lesnar doesn't re-sign after 'Mania, as Punk, as you say, doesn't need him as he is just an extra luxury.

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Old 01-02-2013, 04:55 PM
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Do you think Heyman would just split from Punk? Or do you see him moonlighting then going back to Punk when Lesnar does his disappearing act again?
I'm a huge fan of Heyman, but I'm not sure if he has a long-term future if Lesnar doesn't re-sign after 'Mania, as Punk, as you say, doesn't need him as he is just an extra luxury.
I was under the impression Lesnar signed a $5 million 24 match deal with the WWE.

I think Lesnar will actually turn on Punk and want the WWE title.

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Old 01-02-2013, 05:14 PM
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I'll happily bow to your info on this- it shows how sparingly Lesnar has been used as they obviously want another year out of him.
That scenario could work - I wonder if Heyman would side with the monster Lesnar in 'public' but also convince Punk he was actually rooting for him until they met? However they played it, Heyman would make it entertaining.

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I agree with an earlier poster, Brock Lesnar need Paul Heyman and CM Punk doesn't, but that doesn't mean that CM Punk and Heyman are not good for eachother, since Heyman is with Punk, he has a lot more heel heat than on his own, and one thing i admit is that Brock, good or bad on the michrophone, he can create heel heat on his own, but when it's time to talk, that is where he needs Heyman, and i think that some way or some how Heyman will turn on one of them, but the question is who? I thought like a lot of people that he will more likely turn on CM Punk, but, if CM Punk wants to remain the top heel for a long time, then he and Brock can also work if Brock ends up being the face, it has worked before, when Heyman turned on him using the Big Show before, so it can happen again, but this time the fans will love Brock Lesnar even more, because at this moment, Punk and Heyman are very much hated by the fans, and this can also benefit other superstars that get involved in this storyline, oviously to help CM Punk not to get destroyed, like Jack Swagger or Ezekiel Jackson......

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The first question here is which of the 2 NEEDS Heyman more. In my opinion that person is Brock. Not only because Brock's weakness has been lengthy promos (he is better suited for quick 30 second ones similar to how he debuted against Cena) but with current Brock only having a select amount of dates, using Heyman as his mouthpiece not only keeps storylines fresh but forces new ways of prolonging the storylines without much physical interaction (see: HHH/Lesnar).

The second one is Heyman has been 2 very different characters with both men so the question becomes which Heyman character is better. This one I'm a little more torn on, while I enjoyed his truer "management" style he used with Lesnar I also like his non-verbal style with Punk simply holding the title to emphasize Punk's reign. However even with this one I still give the nod to Heyman/Lesnar because I feel he comes across too much like Punk's lackey in the current relationship where as you truly felt he was Lesnar's manager in that relationship.

In short for the above reasons I give the nod to Lesnar.

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Old 01-02-2013, 11:39 PM
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I think Heyman could get a newborn baby heel heat. He is that good. I was skeptical of him being with Punk at first but it has worked so well. What I like most is that fact that he keeps a lot of focus on on the WWE title. Love seeing him walk behind Punk holding the title high over his head. It's little things like that that is so absent from wrestling today.

Brock on the other hand needed Heyman, but I think the relationship worked well. Brock was this athletic freak who was destroying the whole roster, and Heyman was the brains behind it all. I always loved hearing Heyman say BRRROOOCK Lesner. Just the way he said it made Lesner seem important. I always preferred Lesner when he was with Heyman as a heel as opposed to the face without him.

While I do love Heyman with Punk I just think he was a better fit with Lesner. He really helped him get over in his early days. He was the mouthpiece Lesner needed to let his in ring ability get him mega over.

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You know ... at first this seems like Brock Lesnar has to be the answer because, honestly, Lesnar needs the mouthpiece.

But the more I think about it ... the more I realize I LOVE LOVE LOVE Heyman with CM Punk. Which is kind of shocking to me.

At first I wondered why the hell would they waste such a strong on-air talent like Heyman with someone like Punk — who clearly does not need help in the promo department. But somehow it has worked masterfully and has helped open up a plethora of doors and angles the WWE can go with the pair working together.

You can have Heyman turn on Punk, vice versa, have Punk and Lesnar form a super-team of some sort. There are so many things you can do ... and it is all because they put a great mouthpiece with another great mouthpiece when normally that is not a solid formula.

There is just something about Punk and Heyman whispering and laughing and standing there side by side that works perfectly. It seems like it is going to continue to work right on through at least Wrestlemania as well ... and I definitely do not have a problem with that.

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People are still cheering for punk, and people still want his t-shirts regardless..... Heyman needs to Turn on Punk after Punk drops the title to Rock, and Align Himself with ............ RYBACK. Heyman does FANTASTIC as a mouthpiece for Monster Heels who can't talk! Then When Ryback can't beat the Face Punk, in comes...LESNAR!! Punk then gets saved from a double beatdown from Ryback and Lesnar by.... HHH. This would culminate with two matches for MANIA where the stipulation for both matches is when the loser must quit wrestling perminantely with PUNK VS LESNAR AND RYBACK VS HHH. This would be a retirement for HHH, and everybody knows Lesnar is done after mania. Meanwhile we have Randy Orton winning the rumble, and going back to his roots...turning heel and becoming the returning legend killer to take on The Rock at Mania! This would make Randy Fresh Again, and align himself as the leader of the Shield would be even better!!! "injustice is having these legends come in and steal the spotlight" and John Cena Challenging the Undertaker for the Streak!!! Sheamus vs Ziggler vs Big Show after Ziggler Cashes in at Rumble on the Big Show! Tag Team would be a re-match clause with Kane/Bryan vs Rhode Scholars(champions) and Mid Card would be Rey vs Sincara and Barrett(champion) vs Miz and Cesaro vs a precard rumble with the returning Jack Swagger winning it... Those 9 Matches!!! Best Mania Ever! Book IT!

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Lesnar needs Heyman; Punk does not. Its that simple. WWE made a wise move when they brought in Heyman to work with Lesnar. Brock isn't good on the mic, and Heyman is. They also made a wise move when they put Paul Heyman with CM Punk. It help put Punk over as a heel (not that he couldn't have on his own.) Heyman has an unbelievable amount of talent on the mic, and his ability to draw heat is above average. If and when Lesnar comes back, it would be a good idea to reunite him with Heyman. Punk will be just fine.
No, Lesnar does not need Heyman. Lesnar is a draw regardless. Lesnar is a bigger draw than Punk regardless. I'm a huge Punk fan, but you're looking at this like a mark and not like a business.

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