Chris Masters = Funny

[johnbragg]

He did have that Masterlock challenge which I enjoyed, I'd like to see him do that again. That was pretty cool.

Two Chris Masters fans in one thread!! Freddy4190 and Info62!

Give him the Crazy Train pec dancing gimmick, while he builds a smark following that hates the gimmick but likes him. The gimmick will eventually run it's course on all three shows, take him off TV for a while and repackage him as a pissed-off Chris Mordetsky who is mad about selling out his dignity for the fans.

[JBK2008]

His style is slow and all, and who knows maybe he'll find a way to pick it up. Also, the guy has had really no time to speak on the mic yet since his return, so we can't bash him there yet. His performance last night was indeed funny though and it won't launch him anywhere, but it is noteworthy and hopefully we can see another side to Masters' persona down the road.

[Lord Sidious]

I have a question that perhaps hasn't been considered.

Based on Chris Masters actions last night, and because I can clearly see that the segment has garnered mostly positive reviews from everyone ... do you all think that perhaps it's time for "The Masterpiece" persona to vanquish? Maybe it's time to push Masters in a new direction, being that of a Face?

It's difficult because WWE grants very little mic time (if any at all) to anyone not in the Main Event. Therefore, it's hard to tell if there is a whole boat load of people that are missing their calling with taking their characters in a new direction.

But does anyone think Chris Masters may actually have potential with being a Face if he is given a new character and personality?

[johnbragg]

But does anyone think Chris Masters may actually have potential with being a Face if he is given a new character and personality?

I've already said this ten or so posts upthread, but I believe that, with the Crazy Train pec dancing gimmick, Masters could be a face comedy act, a Val Venis or Too Cool for the PG era. A personality might be asking a bit much from WWE Creative. But just the pec dancing could give him a six month run on each of the three rosters.

Down the road, the pec-dancing could evolve into a larger "lady-killer" character, either face or heel. Mabel/Viscera is not filling that spot any more, Steiner is doing it in TNA for a little while, but maybe Masters could play the old Rick Rude womanizer role.

He doesn't even have to drop the Masterpiece tag. Down the road, if his role grows, the narcissist gimmick meshes well with the ladykiller gimmick.

[info62]

Originally Posted by Lord Sidious

I have a question that perhaps hasn't been considered.

Based on Chris Masters actions last night, and because I can clearly see that the segment has garnered mostly positive reviews from everyone ... do you all think that perhaps it's time for "The Masterpiece" persona to vanquish? Maybe it's time to push Masters in a new direction, being that of a Face?

It's difficult because WWE grants very little mic time (if any at all) to anyone not in the Main Event. Therefore, it's hard to tell if there is a whole boat load of people that are missing their calling with taking their characters in a new direction.

But does anyone think Chris Masters may actually have potential with being a Face if he is given a new character and personality?

I don't think I'd like to see him as a face in WWE. There would be some upsides, like the fact that he could quickly become #1 contender for the US championship, since it's currently held by a heel and there aren't many credible face contenders. And also after his release from WWE in 2007, I watched most of his indy stuff - during which he was working as a face and I thought he pulled it off pretty well.

But the fact that he wouldn't get any time on the mic would be very very bad. It's easier to be a heel and not get any mic time since all you have to do is beat up the fan favorites to get heat. I think it's harder to be a face and not get any mic time, since you have to make the crowd get behind you without being allowed to talk.

The idea of him being given a new personality also frightens me, just because WWE seems to be so against gimmicks now that this new personality would be probably similar to Mark Henry's - a dude who smiles a lot, so he's a good guy now. And if they don't go that route than they'll probably turn Masters into a comedy jobber. I'd die a little inside if they started teaming him up with Santino.

Unless they give him mic time and/or a non-generic face gimmick, I don't think Masters would get over. He doesn't wrestle a fast-paced match like somebody like Kofi does, so being a generic face who never cuts any promos isn't going to cut it.

Given time on the mic, I think Masters would get over as a face. But given WWE's past record, I don't think he'd get any time on the mic. So I would be against him turning face.

[johnbragg]

Unless they give him mic time and/or a non-generic face gimmick, I don't think Masters would get over. He doesn't wrestle a fast-paced match like somebody like Kofi does, so being a generic face who never cuts any promos isn't going to cut it.

The Crazy Train pec dancing is not generic. It doesn't have to be a complete jobber gimmick, either. Flex each pec right before he makes the pin. Something like that.

[Toroc102]

Hmm I didn't see the pec dancing thing, but I mean c'mon it seems like the type of thing that would get old pretty quick and the gimmick has jobber written all over it. I don't think the WWE needs any more pointless comedy figures.

On Master's though, I really haven't seen him wrestle much since he debuted the first time and I didn't mind him then. If they just let him come to the ring and dominate some heels I bet he'd get over, I mean really whenever someone dominates someone in the ring it gets them over. Goldberg, Umaga, Lesnar, Austin(maybe not in the ring but when he wasn't having matches he definately dominated everyone else), hell look at the difference between Shamus VS Noble last week and this week. Last week he had a boring match and everyone hated it. This week he just beat the crap out of Noble and the crowd hated(really they loved it)him for it. Make Masters look like a winner and he'll be a winner.

[Ziirox]

Originally Posted by johnbragg

The Crazy Train pec dancing is not generic. It doesn't have to be a complete jobber gimmick, either. Flex each pec right before he makes the pin. Something like that.

Or maybe he could do something kind of like what they have for Kofi, MVP, Cena, Scotty2Hotty, The Rock, RVD and Hogan. Masters could do a quick run off the ropes and stop, do a small round of pectoral dance and then do a leg drop, elbow drop or big splash.

(By the way, I am definitely a Masters mark. He has been held back for too long. Give him a chance WWE!!)

[info62]

Originally Posted by johnbragg

The Crazy Train pec dancing is not generic. It doesn't have to be a complete jobber gimmick, either. Flex each pec right before he makes the pin. Something like that.

I don't think the Crazy Train thing is going to last more than a week. If he does keep up the pec dancing stuff, I wouldn't classify that as a gimmick. That would be like saying Jack Swagger's gimmick is doing push-ups since he does that on his way to the ring.

Unless you were talking about your gimmick idea that you brought up in a few of your posts. That wouldn't be a generic gimmick.

But if you were talking about him simply continuing the pec movement stuff then I really don't see how that could turn out being anything other than a comedy gimmick, eventually a comedy-jobber gimmick. If he turns face, anyway. If he were to stay heel then it wouldn't be at all a change from his Masterpiece gimmick since it would still be a narcissistic thing.

It's not like it was the first time he did the pec movement thing, or that he debuted some new gimmick - he used to do it before his matches back during his first run in WWE. He just did it ridiculously during the Raw's Got Talent for a comedy segment, and it was pretty funny.

[Toroc102]

Originally Posted by Ziirox

Or maybe he could do something kind of like what they have for Kofi, MVP, Cena, Scotty2Hotty, The Rock, RVD and Hogan. Masters could do a quick run off the ropes and stop, do a small round of pectoral dance and then do a leg drop, elbow drop or big splash.

(By the way, I am definitely a Masters mark. He has been held back for too long. Give him a chance WWE!!)

In that case it would be more of a taunt and being narcisistic would still be his gimmick, that would work fine but I still think it would come off a little goofy for him to do it in sequence with a leg drop or and elbow or something.

I dunno I mean doesn't he already flex his pecs a lot when he wrestles anyway? If he made a weird dance routine out of it I struggle to see a way that it doesn't come off goofy.