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Old 10-31-2009, 04:39 PM
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Hmm. They are starting new feuds. As I said with Kofi and Orton. Then you had Punk vs 'Taker which was very good until creative got in the way of it.
Wow..now I actually agree with u especially onthe lat part!

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Carlito also decided to leave the company, and then come back...
Apparently because higher ups pleaded with him! I wouldn't blamed him for a second.

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Then don't watch it, go watch TNA, I do. It's highly entertaining.
I do watch TNA, but I've been a WWE(F) fan for about 22 years now, and even remained loyal to them while WCW was kicking there asses.

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Yeah, the Bash gets a higher buy rate then Mania, or the Rumble... Or Breaking point received more buys than SummerSlam. I grantee you that Survivor Series will get a better buy rate than Bragging rights or TLC.
Last year it bombed with all the others, it was pretty much drawing the same numbers! And when did I make comparisons to Summerslam & 'Mania. Stop putting words in my mouth!

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Hmm... Pure sabotage.... No it wasn't. If he is was as good as you say he was. He should have been able to make that transition easily. How big of a face to you have to be, he was over with the fans. He spit in the face of the biggest heels in the business. Yet he couldn't cut a promo to save his life! He wasn't ready.
That's why I said, they nevver should've turned him in the first place it was a mistake! They really gave us no reason to cheer for him. You can't tell me Randy's face turn was not a creative farce, becaue it was.

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Yes he headlined the the biggest ppv and did nothing.... He went on later to win the belt yes. Was he ready to be on top, no. That's why they didn't let him have the belt.
IMO he'd been ready for a year.

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Wait, who was it that Austin came in as the ringmaster? How well did that work for him? Oh that's right he went no where until his gimmick changed. Also like I said Austin was rare not everyone can lunch into the stratosphere into wrestling lore.
What does that have to do with anything? They didn't have any idea what kindof star he'd be when they took a chance on putting him with Bret.

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So why was it when he was hand fed the best possible opportunity of going into the main event he fell flat on his face?
Because..they...should've....kept....him...heel!!!

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MVP? What the hell has he ever done that's been worthy of a main event push? A lack luster feud with Hardy....
I didn't find that feud lackluster whatsoever.

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Actually he was on heat in march of that year. Hmmm
I'll grant you "Heat" was drawing good ratings, and yes that was his actual debut, but he didn't start getting a significant push in the limelight until later that year.

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How did he gain nothing from that feud? He had three matches with the face of the company, the top guy in the business. He gain experience, and showed Vince that he had what it took, on the mic and in the ring.
Time will tell, i'm not fully convinced yet until I see how this feud with Swagger pans out.

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People have been saying that they've had momentum all year. Besides breaking point the haven't had a decent match.
IMO they've had quite a few good matches on TV.

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Yeah he feuded with Cena, but Miz is no Austin as you said. Why do expect everyone to rise as quickly as Austin? It doesn't work that way.
I'm just using Austin for arguement sake! I'm just using an example of what feuding with a big star can really do for someone.

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good reference... It still old!!! It's still stale and completely pointless.
I don't get how, but whatever.

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Have we seen Orton vs Triple h on free tv? Have we seen Orton vs Cean on free tv?
If it's not one on one, it was always a tag match or something everyweek. Austin & The Rock kept those limited.

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You didn't even get the point. Michaels and 'Taker the veterans put the best match on the card! Better than any match that the young guys put on. You have the veterans going at it again on one of the 4 big ppv's.
But yet what would happen if they kept doing it over and over, it would lose its luster. And the match at 'Mania was so mind blowing, that they'll never repeat that again.

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When was the last time you had to Main Even heel's in the same faction? Where both of them were going for the title? That's dumb booking! If they were going to give him the belt he had to go face.
How about actually spending time building up friction between the two, HEY, there's an idea! And the fans could've ultimately decided who they're going to decide with. And lets keep in mind, this feud was brewing just before Batista took off. If they had gone that route, who knows what the business would be like today.

I would've turned HHH face if I had the book, because, even as a heel he's always had a large following, and people are going to cheer the saavy vet over the jerk of a young guy. Evo commits a mutiny on him after months of buildup! It would've worked, Orton should've stayed heel.

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good analogy, it's your opinion.. My opinion is that it's going to be a good main event.
There'll be nothing wrong with the actual match, but for me it's nothing to get excited about.

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Punk was before HIAC. He was a cowardly heel. He took out Hardy, and then impersonated him. Then to win a cheap heel way at breaking point. How was it not?
Punk pretty much kept the belt warm for the Deadman. And his first reign was not good at all, it was lame duck all the way.

As for Hardy, ok his 2nd reign came off as merely a bribe to keep him, but his first one??
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Old 11-01-2009, 12:07 AM
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I also believe this to be a good match. As previously stated HBK knows how to shine when it comes to his annual title oppertunity (not to mention this being one of the big ppv's) so he'll definetly bring the 'Showstopper' to this match. Which hopefully involves screwing HHH out of the title, inwhich case leaves the title on Cena(mind you not a cena fan) but will give the title a little bit more credibility. Also will give us a HBK vs HHH one last time, while some more mid-cards are being worked on.
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Old 11-02-2009, 04:26 PM
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If they aren't gonna turn Cena heel, maybe make him a tweener. It would be a swerve of sorts if he used some little underhanded tactic that kids wouldn't hate, but we would, sorta like he does now, but more blatant. Hell, have him destroy HBK or something, be vicious or snap, then come to his senses later on.
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:03 AM
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Nobody is going to turn heel in the course of that match, mark my words. If HHH and HBK feud again, they aren't going to do it so there's a big pay off at Armageddon, or whatever name it's got now. DX will remain together until at least then, but probably the Royal Rumble if they are to split at all anything other than amicably.

The match will be won by Cena, with some seeds of tension sown within DX. I really wasn't that suprised, because as soon as it became clear that Swagger and Miz were entering a programme together, the only viable options left were these two. The problem as I perceive it isn't who wins here, but who challenges next. I'd have preferred to see HHH this month and HBK next, because as it stands, we're either going to get the same multiman match twice, or some lameo like Ted DiBiase is going to get a title shot. Nicht so gut.
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:49 PM
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Alright, let’s get the options straightened out first.

1. Cena retains, DX stays together, but tension starts to build.
2. Triple H wins his 14th World Title, but HBK could slowly turn Heel in the process. Cena would definitely get his rematch and HBK could then cost HHH the Title.
3. Shawn Michaels wins his 5th World Title, and replace every “HBK” reference in point # 2 with “HHH” and vice versa.

So either way, DX is about to end and most of you are complaining about the Triple Threat match?? Would you rather a Main Event Mafia style ending where it just ends out of nowhere?? Don't answer that.

I think the first option, Cena retaining, will happen. Hopefully Cena defends against Big Show next to really make JeriShow “Team Undisputed” (assuming Jericho wins the Smackdown Survivor Series Triple Threat World Title match), but that’s just me.

What I would like to see is the third option of having HBK winning number 5. If Sting can win the World Title 3 times in TNA, then HBK can win too.
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I was pretty sure when it was announced that Triple H and Big Show were main eventing Raw and the hosts were waiting until "later on" to reveal the next challenge that it would be Triple H. I didn't see the DX swerve coming though and I was pleasantly surprised.

And to Gotham7 who called it the same repackaged crap... when has there been a Cena/HHH/HBK triple threat for the WWE Championship? If there was I surely don't remember it. I know everyone here hates seeing HHH anywhere near a world championship, but the fans love him right now, the fans love Cena, the fans love HBK, the crowd should be cheering and booing at random intervals and I believe that the match will be a lot of fun.

Also, what kind of dynamic could there be between DX in this match? Does HHH let Shawn grab the gold, does Shawn look after his buddy and give HHH the strap or do they implode and let Cena pick up the win. I do hope Cena wins to provide some continuity to the WWE Championship picture. And, again, I'm not a Cena fan... more of an HBK mark myself, but the title needs just a little bit of stability from now until Mania.

Just my thoughts.

I actually think that at this point in his career HBK should get a final run with the title in DX, it would be so much like the old days of the original D-Generation X. HHH doesnt need another title reign, Cena is a good superstar that has made WWE tones of money however the true ring warrior Shawn Michaels should get one more reign before his retirement.
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G'day Mate I dont no where u "hear good information" but i wouldnt go there again, Edges injury is one of his worst as in is expected return was wrestlemania 26...but now the date has to go further because it isnt healing properly. Mate I find Edge to be a great Heel in the WWE, people LOVE to HATE him. I was watching some old Edge matches like at Armageddon vs Atain, and his tag team with rey....simply classic so when he comes back i as an Edge Head would love to see him as a Face, but a Heel would be good also.
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It would be nice to see HBK win but Cena should retain so he can have a good title reign and maybe this match could start a HHH-HBK fued.
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Would anyone else be extremely pissed off if Hornswoggle appears to help Cena retain over DX? This past week, we saw DX picking on him, and he showed he wasn't happy with them. Cena saved him, and he ran off.

I know it's (hopefully) a long shot, but I think there's a chance they use him to keep the belt on Cena...It's unnecessary to. Why not just have him win cleanly over HBK and HHH, since they're all faces, and there's no feud going into the show?
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I'm not quite sure I understand this writing. WWE knows Cena is close to losing his babyface, yet he gets thrown into a match with 2 guys that will always be over in HHH and HBK. It's no secret that in all stadiums around the world, Cena is being booed by a certain group of fans that are sick of him.

Anyone else have a problem with this or am I just making a mountain out of a mole hill? Also, your opinions would be greatly appreciated on the writing here. Maybe I'm just missing something that's right in front of my face.


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Would anyone else be extremely pissed off if Hornswoggle appears to help Cena retain over DX? This past week, we saw DX picking on him, and he showed he wasn't happy with them. Cena saved him, and he ran off.

I know it's (hopefully) a long shot, but I think there's a chance they use him to keep the belt on Cena...It's unnecessary to. Why not just have him win cleanly over HBK and HHH, since they're all faces, and there's no feud going into the show?

Oh boy.. if this happens in a big 4 PPV... that would be a huge blow to the momentum the WWE is getting.

I've always checked results and have been a fan since 1993, but I never made a big pt of being a wrestling fan. I've just always enjoyed it within myself. Now, even my friends who only watched wrestling in the attitude era, are starting to watch wrestling again. It's starting to reach the mainstream more and more each week.

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