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Old 11-18-2016, 12:20 AM
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Oh and the black lotus tribe can do one. That sunset flip piledriver was the shittest thing I've ever seen. It didn't even look like she performed the flip it was all pentagon. Sure it's protected pentagon from taking a clean fall but it was underwhelming for mine. Have my money on Pentagon for AW4 he has been screwed over the last two times. I do look forward to him breaking the arms of the black lotus tribe

I think a big problem with the match was that nobody really took a clean fall that mattered. Mil went through a table and was rolled up and Matanza had how many finishers hit on him before he lost to a sunset flip. Anyone else that was worth their salt had a dusty finish bar mundo who can't really lose his credibility because of his character's take as many shortcuts as possible approach
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Old 11-18-2016, 11:36 PM
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I get that, but why not have a producer fill them in on what's happening so it's a more fluid show?
An on air PA would be a helpful middle man to fill this plot hole, but I'm okay with it, mostly. The world building they've done so far isn't undone by such plot holes, but maybe "Jimmy the PA" could be a helpful on-screen character.

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Not fucking with you, I came into this thread and did a spit take on my keyboard. Your reaction is one of the funniest, most sincere things I've seen on these forums. And mostly, I agree with you. I'd probably have been as disappointed too, had this title change not been casually spoiled on main page news articles months ago.

Nonetheless, Sexy Star as champ still fits the world of the show. I don't agree with it, and I don't entirely like her, but we knew something like this would happen at some point. (I'd have much preferred Ivie to win it, that'd be awesome!) What I mean to get at is this; I had four problems with the episode, and Sexy Star becoming the champion was the least of them.

Where is King Cuerno?!
Like, fuck, for real? I thought maybe he's been released, but he's in the trailer. I know that random guy, who is henceforth known as Fucker McGee, was inserted because of Ivie's injury. But come on, let me know he's around!

Too many quick eliminations
A handful of luchadors seemed to be introduced to eat a pinfall within two minutes. Let's list them;
  • Drago
  • Kobra Moon
  • Joey Ryan
  • Fucker McGee
  • Famous B
  • Mascarita Sagrada

That's more than 1/4 of the field acting as filler. Waste.

Except for a new champion, accomplished nothing else
So you have a match, that encompasses virtually the ENTIRE roster. Why did they not set up more storylines? It's true that they also planted seeds for Matanza and Rey, but I just feel like last year accomplished so much more.

Either way, an okay AW at best. Not their best effort.
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Old 11-21-2016, 02:19 AM
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See I thought when she won the gift of the gods that was what the main page meant by former champion and when she lost that I thought they were going to write her out because she wants to become a boxer
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Old 11-21-2016, 03:41 AM
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I'm curious to see where they go from here. DW brought up an excellent question in regards to King Cuerno. You would think he'd be back by now. And call me crazy, but I half expected to see Puma come and screw Mil Muertes out of getting the title again. Hell, it would've been more believable than what transpired.
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Sexy Star can fuck right off

Aztec Warfare is the first episode of season 3 I've actually watched. Every now and then I check out whatever their Facebook page posts but it's not enough for me to actually know what's going on.

Aztec Warfare wasn't awful but it's just weird that they felt the need to put in Mascarita Sagrada, Famous B, Kobra Moon, and Ricky Mandel but leave out guys like Puma, Fenix, Texano and Cage. It was just "a match". Black Lotus and her gang of hot Asian women was pretty cool though.

Also, according to the LU Facebook:

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Old 11-23-2016, 11:55 AM
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Yeah, Sexy Star still does nothing for me. Her "rise against bullying" has been completely invented by Striker on commentary and has none of the more natural feel to it that Bayley's rise to the NXT title had (and it is that story that LU has tried and failed to copy).

If LU was decided on having a female champion, I would much rather have had Ivelisse in this position.

Don't expect Sexy to hold the title too long. She might even lose it to Mundo tonight when he cashes in his GOTG title.

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but leave out guys like Puma, Fenix, Texano and Cage. It was just "a match".
All four of those guys were out for various reasons - Puma was defeated n Grave Consequences last night by Mil Muertes, Fenix lost a match which meant he was not allowed to enter, while Texano and Cage are engaged in a best of 5 series for the "Ultimate Opportunity," which is to get to be the vessel for whatever Dark Lord Dario is working for so it could be argued that Dario would not want to risk that investment by putting them in the madness of Aztec Warfare.

Also in kayfabe, you could argue that while Dario was placing Matanza and his title in danger but was still managing to manipulate the situation somewhat by not having all of the biggest stars in the match.

That said, it is not exactly the best idea to water down probably the biggest single match you have for the sake of making sense in kayfabe.

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That sunset flip piledriver was the shittest thing I've ever seen.
Any sunset flip piledriver/Canadian Destroyer is the biggest pile of shit in wrestling. It makes absolutely no sense even in kayfabe that the guy taking the move would flip backwards ontop his own head like that.
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Old 11-24-2016, 10:45 AM
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Well that's done with. A joke reign for a joke champion. Dirty finish doesn't change any of that

Dante Fox vs Killshot was a terrible match in terms of actual execution, striker wasn't overselling it when he said fox's neck should be snapped

The rabbit tribe was meh. It was weird that they got to go for the belts straight away and I can't say I was a fan of striker trying to pump London up. Would have been better to play up the mystery of the rabbit tribe. The weird sexual nature didn't do it for me either. I feel like they should have been a positive version of the wyatt family but instead they are Adam rose and his rosebuds
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Old 11-25-2016, 02:46 PM
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Well that's done with. A joke reign for a joke champion. Dirty finish doesn't change any of that
We can all agree that Sexy Star winning last week was questionable, but it did more for Johnny Mundo to win this match as he did, then it would have for him to beat Matanza, in Aztec Warfare or otherwise. Franky, the Lucha Underground championship picture has been pretty directionless since Mil Muertes lost the belt. I think Johnny and the Worldwide Underground have potential to do lots of good with this belt, and a dirty win over "beloved" Sexy Star helps. Let's not forget, he's the rudo.

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Dante Fox vs Killshot was a terrible match in terms of actual execution, striker wasn't overselling it when he said fox's neck should be snapped.
Was it that bad? Admittedly, I was half in the bag last night, and I remember quite a few "Wow" moments, which is par for the course in an LU midcard match. Only major critique I had was Dante had no sense of urgency in getting a pinfall. Did too much show-boating and gladhanding for a man out for revenge, in my opinion.

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The rabbit tribe was meh. It was weird that they got to go for the belts straight away and I can't say I was a fan of striker trying to pump London up. Would have been better to play up the mystery of the rabbit tribe. The weird sexual nature didn't do it for me either. I feel like they should have been a positive version of the wyatt family but instead they are Adam rose and his rosebuds
I kinda dug it. The problem with the segment was that the audience didn't know what to make of it. They aren't privy to the backstage segments, so as a result, the crowd wasn't exactly chomping at the bit.

I had no idea that was Paul London in those segments, either. If London ever reunites with Kendrick somewhere down the road, I'd like to see this incarnation of the character with Kendrick
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Was it that bad? Admittedly, I was half in the bag last night, and I remember quite a few "Wow" moments, which is par for the course in an LU midcard match. Only major critique I had was Dante had no sense of urgency in getting a pinfall. Did too much show-boating and gladhanding for a man out for revenge, in my opinion.
some of the spots it just looked like they landed funny. The match itself was alright
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So I saw Lucha Underground for the first time ever. And it was quite intentional since I watched just one match which was the main event for the Lucha Underground title between the champion Sexy Star and Johnny Mundo.

Unlike first two seasons, I was keeping myself informed about what was happening lately here. John Morrison has always been a my favorite so I watched it just for him since I knew that he's going to become the champion.

Now, the match wasn't a five star classic or something. Still, I liked it. It is the first intergender wrestling match I have ever seen. What I loved in this match was the use of basic wrestling moves. That's a refreshing change, for me atleast.

The end was quite good. A dirty finish protected the former champion's credibility which is a good sign. Something I didn't like was the lack of logic by the referee. Sexy Star was on her feet outside when Mundo entered the ring. The referee was distracted by Mundo so that Taya could get a cheap shot on Sexy Star. So now, Star is laying on the floor. And referee couldn't smell any shenanigans? That's quite illogical. Sometimes, referee is made to look like a dumbo.

Mundo played the role of a sneaky heel rightly and so did Star as a babyface. I am impressed and therefore, a new regular viewer of Lucha Underground.

Rating: B-
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