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Old 02-20-2013, 11:28 PM
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Ultimately, talent shines through regardless of alignment. Roode could have won at BFG 2011 and been just fine. He's a talented guy.

That said, it's also on creative to give any champ good programs to work. Often that elevates a talent more than the talent himself.

Still, I believe that a talented guy will make it work regardless of what role he's cast in. Roode would have made it work as a face just as he did as a heel.
I don't see it that way at all. Yeah, he'd have come through as a talent, but the Bobby Roode we are seeing right now? Not even close.

When's the last time you saw a face hold a title for almost a calendar year? I honestly can't remember. I guess John Cena? In TNA, I don't think they've ever had a face come anywhere close to that, nor would Roode be getting over as big or as fast as he did as a heel, were he a face in that run.

I just don't see it.

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Old 02-21-2013, 12:16 AM
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I don't see it that way at all. Yeah, he'd have come through as a talent, but the Bobby Roode we are seeing right now? Not even close.

When's the last time you saw a face hold a title for almost a calendar year? I honestly can't remember. I guess John Cena? In TNA, I don't think they've ever had a face come anywhere close to that, nor would Roode be getting over as big or as fast as he did as a heel, were he a face in that run.

I just don't see it.
Rob Van Dam. Then again, that was dull as fuck. James Storm would have a far better run as a long babyface champion. But at the end, Hogan definably saw the bigger picture. And it's understandable. When Roode was set to face Kurt Angle, all he had going was that he was this talented guy who was pretty smooth on the mic. Hogan said no to that and 2 weeks later, TNA had one of the best self-produced heels in their company set for success. As well as a major feud. JJYanks says good talent shines through no matter what and that's true. But when creative helps you, you shine faster. And that's what happened. Bobby would most likely have landed in the role of the "It Factor" we see today, but after what? A potentially dull run as a babyface champion?

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Old 02-21-2013, 06:46 PM
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I don't see it that way at all. Yeah, he'd have come through as a talent, but the Bobby Roode we are seeing right now? Not even close.

When's the last time you saw a face hold a title for almost a calendar year? I honestly can't remember. I guess John Cena? In TNA, I don't think they've ever had a face come anywhere close to that, nor would Roode be getting over as big or as fast as he did as a heel, were he a face in that run.

I just don't see it.
CM Punk this past year was a babyface champion from Survivor Series until the summer. Then he turned heel and all the steam of his run was lost. He found a character that worked and that people wanted to cheer, rolled with it, then turned heel so that 6 months later he could feud with The Rock as a bad guy. As we now know, we got 6 months of awful TV as a result. That said, the point is that until that turn, the title run was working and he was certainly doing just fine in that role.

If Bobby Roode is as good as people say he is, he shouldn't need the right creative to get over. It helps, but if he's talented, the proposed title win and feud with a heel James Storm would have worked quite well. Plus, I'm sure subsequent feuds with whomever else would work because he's a talented guy. If you think it would only work with Bobby Roode the heel then you are admitting that he isn't all that good. The truth is that it is much harder to be a successful face than it is a successful heel. Thus, the real talents in the industry can get over as a face which, especially in today's market, is not easy to do. If you don't think Roode would be successful in that role, you are saying he isn't a true talent. I'd like to disagree because I do think he's talented but it seems the rest of you don't nearly think as highly of him as I do.

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