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Old 02-22-2016, 01:04 AM
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Firstly I'm a huge reigns fan. I will always believes he cops unfair criticism solely because he's management's pick

If the fans want to boo Reigns out of the building, whatever that's your choice. But you cant do what the Cleveland crowd did at Fastlane. They booed Reigns, as expected then mid-match start up a chant of "This is awesome" (which it was certainly a good match) and then went back to booing Reigns once he scored the pinfall we were all expecting.

You've got to decide if Reigns puts on good matches and deserves his position or you hate him and think he's put in favourable situations. Wrestlemania 31, TLC, the raw after TLC and now Fastlane are all brilliant examples that the guy can clearly go in the ring. The crowd wants to pick and choose but I dont think they should, either respect the man or don't. Jumping back and forward is crap
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Old 02-22-2016, 01:12 AM
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No. I can have it both ways. Reigns is a good wrestler. He's capable of holding his own in a big match. I am cold to him. His booking is tone deaf.

These are not mutually exclusive thoughts. The world is not binary. Grow up.
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If they booed Reigns in the beginning and booed Reigns at the end I'm guessing the cheers were more in response to Lesnar and Ambrose.


That being said why can't we have it both ways? I enjoy watching Reigns in the ring. He puts on matches I enjoy and has earned a spot in the Main Event 10 times over since last years Royal Rumble.

On the other hand he has no charisma, can't cut a decent promo and his character and booking as the underdog is laughably unbelievable and stupid.


He deserves to be in the Main Event yes, I'll argue that til I'm blue in the face. What he doesn't deserve and what I take offense to his him being the Top Face of the company and being shoved down our throats as such.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:57 AM
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FWIW I'm quoting you milenko because your post expresses all the views i expected to get

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If they booed Reigns in the beginning and booed Reigns at the end I'm guessing the cheers were more in response to Lesnar and Ambrose.
They cheered the spots. All of which reigns was heavily involved in. I wouldnt say he carried the match, but he took the heavy beating early then rallied with Ambrose to get rid of Lesnar which lead to the ending sequence. Had reigns just been taken out and Ambrose and Lesnar had a brutal 1v1 match I'd agree with this.

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That being said why can't we have it both ways? I enjoy watching Reigns in the ring. He puts on matches I enjoy and has earned a spot in the Main Event 10 times over since last years Royal Rumble.
Because i found it to be ludicrous to praise the bloke on one hand and then shit on him for the exact same thing

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On the other hand he has no charisma, can't cut a decent promo and his character and booking as the underdog is laughably unbelievable and stupid.
Now this isnt really a complaint, but why does Bray Wyatt get away with being booked poorly from the same section of the crowd. Why is the booking of a wrestler an acceptable excuse to not boo the fuck out of their segments for one but not the other

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He deserves to be in the Main Event yes, I'll argue that til I'm blue in the face. What he doesn't deserve and what I take offense to his him being the Top Face of the company and being shoved down our throats as such.
How else do you develop a top face when you have none, or the best one you have has just been forced into retirement, one walked out (maybe they could have taken care of him a bit better), another was turned heel before getting injured and the current face of the company is injured/filming some reality show

Granted that they were pushing him hard before that, but to an extent their hand has been forced
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Now this isnt really a complaint, but why does Bray Wyatt get away with being booked poorly from the same section of the crowd. Why is the booking of a wrestler an acceptable excuse to not boo the fuck out of their segments for one but not the other
A simple reason. Because he isnot given a rocket push straight to main event. He has great mic-skills to impress the crowd. He is an unique charcter and has a good gimmick. What gimmick does Reigbs have?

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Old 02-22-2016, 04:19 AM
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A simple reason. Because he isnot given a rocket push straight to main event. He has great mic-skills to impress the crowd. He is an unique charcter and has a good gimmick. What gimmick does Reigbs have?

So why not boo the fuck out of whoever beats him. Do the inverse
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Now this isnt really a complaint, but why does Bray Wyatt get away with being booked poorly from the same section of the crowd. Why is the booking of a wrestler an acceptable excuse to not boo the fuck out of their segments for one but not the other
Bray Wyatt has a great character, a lot of charisma, and awesome mic skills.

Roman Reigns has an awful character, no charisma, and terrible mic skills.
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:59 PM
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Bray Wyatt has a great character, a lot of charisma, and awesome mic skills.

Roman Reigns has an awful character, no charisma, and terrible mic skills.
As I've already said elsewhere, if you boo reigns for winning why would you not do the same to Wyatt losing?
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Firstly I'm a huge reigns fan. I will always believes he cops unfair criticism solely because he's management's pick

If the fans want to boo Reigns out of the building, whatever that's your choice. But you cant do what the Cleveland crowd did at Fastlane. They booed Reigns, as expected then mid-match start up a chant of "This is awesome" (which it was certainly a good match) and then went back to booing Reigns once he scored the pinfall we were all expecting.

You've got to decide if Reigns puts on good matches and deserves his position or you hate him and think he's put in favourable situations. Wrestlemania 31, TLC, the raw after TLC and now Fastlane are all brilliant examples that the guy can clearly go in the ring. The crowd wants to pick and choose but I dont think they should, either respect the man or don't. Jumping back and forward is crap
All we've seen is more and more proof that he CAN'T go in the ring. Roman Reigns has proven that he is an absolutely atrocious wrestler. He can't work a match. He's not Braun Strowman bad, but he's not that far off. He's HORRIBLE. Reigns hasn't had a single decent match since going on his own.

Roman Reigns would be fine as a midcard talent, and nobody would boo him. But Roman Reigns IS NOT OVER AS A MAIN EVENT TALENT. If you think otherwise, you're insane. Fans are not going to accept him as a main event superstar.
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But Roman Reigns IS NOT OVER AS A MAIN EVENT TALENT. If you think otherwise, you're insane.
Count me as one of the insane. I think he's done fine in main event matches, both in performance and fan reception. Sure, there are going to be boos; that's the way things are today and......most unfortunately.....a lot of it has come about because of the success of John Cena.

That's right....his success. Today, it's 'in' to boo a guy based on factors other than how he performs in the ring and on the mic. I believe most fans are just going along with whatever they see other fans doing, so some are cheering and both are booing; much of it having nothing to do with Roman himself.

So be it. All Reigns can do is what he can do. He has tons of people rooting for him despite the naysayers: "Everybody hates Roman!" being yelled at the same time as "Everybody loves Roman!"

He can have it both ways.....because it exists both ways.
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