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Old 08-05-2017, 05:23 PM
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The Impact Grand Championship was introduced late last year in TNA, now GFW, and it's this somewhat heartfelt attempt at blurring the lines a bit between professional wrestling and fighting. The outline of matches for the title are as follows:


Three 3 minute rounds, with special event matches going 5 minutes.
10 point must system.
Judging categories: Physicality, aggressiveness, controlling the action.
Wins can happen anytime via pin or submission.
If there is no winner after three rounds, a winner is decided by judge's decision.


For some reason, the whole Impact Grand Championship thing just popped into my head and I almost never consciously thing anything about TNA/GFW and haven't for a long time. It's an interesting concept but one thing that takes me out of it are the 3 minute rounds as it just seems much too short for the match to really get out of 1st gear. With a few tweaks, this is something that you'd think would fit right in with wrestling companies that promote themselves more along the lines of being sports rather than entertainment like New Japan, Ring of Honor or, to a lesser extent, even NXT.

I'd extend the rounds to 10 minutes each with a 60 or 90 second rest period. As for the judges, I'd do something like picking seemingly three random wrestlers from the back; every so often, animosity between a judge and one of the wrestlers who doesn't agree with said judge's decision following a match can be used to form a feud between them. Various challengers would also have to compete in "Fighting Spirit matches" as a means of helping determine who goes after the champion, none of this "if you defeat the champion, hen you get a championship match" stuff as that always seemed ass backwards to me since you're supposed to "move your way up the ranks" to earn a title shot by beating other competitors.

But yeah, as I said, I could see something like this being a strong mid-card title in New Japan, Ring of Honor, possibly NXT with a few modifications as they're more inclined towards the sports aspect of sports entertainment.
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Old 08-05-2017, 06:15 PM
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I truly don't think it's working in GFW and I don't see it working anywhere else. The round system makes it nearly impossible to create the drama needed to tell a good story, and far too often when the matches go to the judges, it's obvious who was going to win. The one thing this style could do and be good, and they can only really do it once, is have a face champion completely dominate the rounds, only for the heel challenger to win hanks to corrupt judges. That would be a solid storyline, but once you use it then the concept dies. It has almost no shelf life. Nearly every match I've seen for the title is boring. It's just one guy dominating a round, then the short break, then the other guy dominating the next round. Rarely do rounds ever feel competitive. It's just a stupid concept all around that the awful GFW creative team thought would be hip and cool. I like pro wrestling, I like MMA, but I don't like pro wrestling trying to be MMA. For some reason, some people just can't let each exist as their own spectacle and try to blur the lines between the two far too often and the results usually are the drizzling shits.
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Old 08-06-2017, 09:34 AM
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Their a reason why the round system never worked in wrestling, because everybody knows that wrestling is predetermine so when you go to the judges score card, you know that it just a way to advances the story in the match. In fact look at the history of the grand championship since they started it, Look at all the matches that went 3 rounds. The formula is always the same, one guy wins the first round, the other wins the second round even if he doesn't deserve it then whoever they want to win the match win the third round.

It's predictable and feel fake. You don't have the time to engage in the story because of the short interval so you fast forward through the match until the ending.

If you go back in history, they're was a federation called the AWF in the early 2000's that would use this system for they're matches. You would get the same type of 3 round matches and while you had the who's who of wrestling legends in the company, the product was so boring that the company didn't last a year.

Same thing is happening with this, yes it's different, but doesn'T mean because it's different that it's good.
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:13 AM
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This was touched on the other day during the Impact live discussion. I brought up how instead of the championship being determined by rounds, make the matches 2 out of 3 falls. Now, depending on time constraints any of the falls could go on forever. In that case dedicate about a half hour or so of Impact to the Grand championship match. You could have two or three falls complete within that time. This seems more realistic that wrestling "rounds", and each fall has a decisive winner.
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I don't watch Global Force / Impact / TNA / whatever they are calling themselves, so I have yet to see one of these matches in action. From what I have read about the Impact Grand Championship, it's not making me want to check any of the matches out. It sounds like a really stupid concept and all those weird rules make it only worse. Like others have said, pro wrestling trying to MMA is just dumb. If I want to see MMA then I'll watch MMA. Wrestlers trying to do be MMA in a predetermined format just never clicked with me in the past. I don't see the Grand Championship's format doing particularly well anywhere else. If the WWE tried it whether it be on Raw/Smackdown or even on NXT I doubt it would be successful because there's too many odd rules and we as fans could just as easily go watch real MMA instead.
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