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Old 05-09-2017, 08:10 PM
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I have no idea. It's worth something though, so it's worth it for them to not simply give it up for nothing which is what a lot of fans are effectively demanding they do. It's what Hardy and his wife are demanding they do, too.
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Old 05-10-2017, 05:25 AM
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I think that all IMPACT Wrestling could get out of "Broken" stuff is significant amount of money. You can't recreate it so there's no use of just keeping it so that Hardyz can't use it elsewhere. Maybe IMPACT Wrestling is expecting more money than acceptable or maybe WWE is offering less money than acceptable. Either way, it's going to affect the fans of "Broken" stuff. And regardless of the actual situation, IMPACT Wrestling will be the one on the hard end. Not that it's right but that's what is the perception now. It's more about "IMPACT Wrestling holding 'Broken' stuff hostage".
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Lets not pretend that only Matt Hardy is talented enough to color his hair and read quirky lines with a bad accent.

IW could throw others in to the gimmick. And while it would be a mockery and not likely as good as the original, I sure as hell will actually tune in to the show to see how bad it is. It goes along with everything the Broken gimmick was, a train wreck. It helped that it was being played by a popular veteran but that doesn't mean Cody couldn't pull it off. It also doesn't have to be a long term veteran. Imagine if EC3 put his stamp on this. Even a young guy with nothing to lose could adopt the gimmick.

I don't know. I agree that Anthem looks bad for holding the gimmick hostage but it is entirely hypocritical to criticize them when, for example, Damien Sandow goes to IW as nothing resembling a renaissance man, a stunt double, or the Macho Man himself. WWE eats, sleeps, and breaths their intellectual property rights, Anthem should be no different. They should use this little bit of leverage and get whatever they can out of it.
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Old 05-10-2017, 10:28 AM
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I don't know. I agree that Anthem looks bad for holding the gimmick hostage but it is entirely hypocritical to criticize them when, for example, Damien Sandow goes to IW as nothing resembling a renaissance man, a stunt double, or the Macho Man himself. WWE eats, sleeps, and breaths their intellectual property rights, Anthem should be no different. They should use this little bit of leverage and get whatever they can out of it.
It's true that WWE does the same thing but they're also in a very different place. Impact Wrestling is in more of a fight with ROH and various other companies for the indy fan market. They hardly have a good reputation in the first place and I really don't think they need to be worrying about intellectual property as much as building their business up to actually make some money. Telling wrestlers that anything they might develop underneath the Impact banner can't be used elsewhere isn't exactly a great way to attract much needed fresh talent.

I get why they're doing this and there is something to it but it seems like they have FAR more important things to worry about right now.
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Old 05-10-2017, 04:43 PM
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It's true that WWE does the same thing but they're also in a very different place. Impact Wrestling is in more of a fight with ROH and various other companies for the indy fan market. They hardly have a good reputation in the first place and I really don't think they need to be worrying about intellectual property as much as building their business up to actually make some money. Telling wrestlers that anything they might develop underneath the Impact banner can't be used elsewhere isn't exactly a great way to attract much needed fresh talent.

I get why they're doing this and there is something to it but it seems like they have FAR more important things to worry about right now.
Conversely, neither is simply allowing IP you develop to walk out the door and make money hand-over-fist for a rival company a sound business strategy.
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True but since when has wrestling functioned like a normal business? There's a public scrutiny here that matters more than it does in almost any other and ticking fans off one after another, especially when TNA is in the place they're currently in.

While they have every legal right to do so, waving contracts in fans' faces and telling them "You can't have the Broken Universe because WE INVENTED IT" isn't going to sit well with a large portion of the audience. It's not like they're going to make any money off the characters while owning them anyway so I really don't see how the positives outweigh the negatives here.
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If I'm IMPACT, and I guess Matt would say it's because I don't care about fans, I'd say "tough fucking shit."

If WWE or ROH do this, no one bats an eye. They understand "it's a business". When TNA does it, because they're everyone's favorite company to hate, they get shit for it. It's a double standard.
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True but since when has wrestling functioned like a normal business? There's a public scrutiny here that matters more than it does in almost any other and ticking fans off one after another, especially when TNA is in the place they're currently in.

While they have every legal right to do so, waving contracts in fans' faces and telling them "You can't have the Broken Universe because WE INVENTED IT" isn't going to sit well with a large portion of the audience. It's not like they're going to make any money off the characters while owning them anyway so I really don't see how the positives outweigh the negatives here.
Had viewership gone down since this became public knowledge?

While I can see some animosity coming from fans, this is a drop in the bucket that is TNA's mistakes. Losing the Hardy's in general is a probably worse for business than the small internet uproar they will receive from holding the gimmick hostage. If they finally go belly up this won't be one of the main reasons.
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If WWE or ROH do this, no one bats an eye. They understand "it's a business". When TNA does it, because they're everyone's favorite company to hate, they get shit for it. It's a double standard.
Yeah it is, and it should be. They're in very different places and WWE has shown the ability to be a profitable company. They're on top of the business and can get away with things other companies can't. ROH doesn't quite do this either. A lot of names that have been grown there have shifted to WWE. If ROH can do it, I don't see why TNA needs to be this way.

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Had viewership gone down since this became public knowledge?

While I can see some animosity coming from fans, this is a drop in the bucket that is TNA's mistakes. Losing the Hardy's in general is a probably worse for business than the small internet uproar they will receive from holding the gimmick hostage. If they finally go belly up this won't be one of the main reasons.
No it won't be, but it would be nice for them to stop doing things that look stupid and just keep barreling through because it's "good business", even though they haven't shown the best business savvy in the past.

I also don't see the point in going with ANOTHER questionable move just because it's far from their worst error (which is true). That being said, I still don't see how this benefits them whatsoever. I know the idea is setting a precedent, but it comes off more as them trying to be WWE, which they're not.
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I have no idea. It's worth something though, so it's worth it for them to not simply give it up for nothing which is what a lot of fans are effectively demanding they do. It's what Hardy and his wife are demanding they do, too.
Maybe Vince is waiting it out until TNA go under (which they will, sooner or later), buy the company, trademarks, video library, some of the talent contracts and amongst those things, the "Broken" gimmicks.
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