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Old 02-17-2017, 06:27 AM
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I liked what they did when the draft picks were determined by Smackdown vs. RAW matches and whichever brand won the match got the draft pick which was "randomized".
I liked this and would do something similar with 3 inter-promotional matches on both RAW & Smackdown with one battle royal offering a couple of draft bonus picks.

Anyway:-

RAW:-
Dean Ambrose - he's gradually slipping down the card & RAW could do with another face before Balor's return.
The Uso's - I think the tag-division could do with a shakeup.
Kalisto - could compete as a cruiserweight or possibly reform the Lucha Dragons.
The Miz - this guy has benefited from The Draft. No with Ziggler turning I think Miz moving to RAW makes sense.
Austin Aries - NXT pick
Sasha Banks


Smackdown:-
Cesaro - his partnership/feud with Sheamus has ran it's course, the guy doesn't look to be getting pushed anytime soon.
The Club - turn them face with Styles for a while and you've got The Club v The Wyatt's as the top feud for a while.
Rusev - like Ambrose, the guy is gradually slipping down the card. A move could reinvigorate him.
Nakamura - NXT pick
Becky Lynch.
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:37 AM
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This is where I see this heading:

To RAW: Ambrose, Styles, The Ascension, Kalisto, Becky Lynch, Nakamura
To SD: The New Day, Rusev and Lana, Cesaro, Bayley, Kassius Ohno, Kevin Owens, Roderick Strong

Ambrose, with Rollins and Reigns reunites The Shield to take on Balor, Anderson and Gallows in a reformed Bullet Club, with Nakamura and Styles torn on who to join. The Ascension and Kalisto are filler. Bayley going to SD is a test of Bayley's ability to push viewers and merch. She has been likened to John Cena. Now, she has to prove it. Cesaro is going nowhere fast on Raw, and hooks up with his former RoH partner in Ohno on SD. Kevin Owens will be lost in the shuffle on Raw, and get rejuvenated. Rusev and Lana go face against Miz and Maryse. Storyline writes itself. The New Day, once the Shield gets reunited, will have nowhere to go. So, the Booty-O's will go to SD. Roderick Strong is to give vet presence, and bring some of the "old-school" RoH fans over.
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Old 02-17-2017, 11:06 AM
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The past drafts where champions for champion were "randomly" drafted were painfully dumb. Ditto for the night JR just happened to follow Michael Cole. What about the night Cena was drafted to Smackdown, then back to Raw, in the same night?

Now that the belts are colour coded and brand specific, it makes the most sense to just have champions be exempt from the draft. If the belts had unique names and designs, sure they could. Although there was that report of Orange county choppers making a new Universal title with the same design, what if it's a blue one?

It was always dumb though, and personally it made the willful suspension of disbelief fairly difficult. Oh wow, both world champions were drafted? What are the odds? The odds are convenient.

WWE has always had difficulty constructing a believable draft. The 2016 draft is evidence of this, with Finn Balor going higher than John Cena and Brock Lesnar, it defied logic.

Drafts need to have a level of logic that goes along with wether they are kayfabe random or kayfabe selected by an actual person.

There's never been proper logic with the draft and champions. One year ECW Champion Kane was drafted to Raw and took the title with him (he lost it to someone before the week was over). Another year ECW Champion Bobby Lashley was drafted to Raw, he was stripped of the title.

WWE Champion Cena was drafted to Raw, so Smackdown has a tournament for a new Smackdown championship, JBL wins a tournament. Then World Champion Batista is conveniently drafted. Sorry JBL, no Smackdown Championship for you. What was in Teddy Long's bag? Don't championship belts cost money?

WWE drafts benefit from logic. They almost have to be random, otherwise Smackdown's first pick would be Raw's top draw every time. Anything else defies logic. They'll never set concrete plans down when it comes to titles, because they'll want to break them in future years to draft who they see fit.

If they do draft the brand specific belts, they'll likely draft the equivalent champions and just have them switch belts.
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I think thay they migt just put some sort of rules that cjampions can't be drafted or if you want to draft them , then they still have to defend the championship on the brand they we're until they lose the belt.

As for what I think wil happen. I wouldn't be surprise if either ambrose gets move to raw or rollins and reigns moves to smackdown. Same, goes for aj and gllows and anderson.

I think some of the women's will move. I could see sasha banks move to smackdown maybe even emma or paige, as for raw, I wouldn't be surprise to see mickie james, eva marie (if see comes back) and maybe carmella switch to raw.

I also would be surprise to see some nxt guys get drafted again this year since ther guys like dillinger and nakamura that might need a reason to explain their call up and a draft is an easy reason to explain a call up.
i would also have a change in the announce booth, have corey graves moves to smackdown and jbl and mauro move to raw. If you want you could moves michael cole to smackdown for a couple of months until you faze him out and give the lead play by play position to tom phillips.
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The best way to action a draft is a simple 5 pick system with two wildcards up for grabs in an interbrand match. Too often they focus on quantity of changes rather than the quality and building the tension.

I'd do it like this -

Each GM gets to pick from any talent not on their roster who doesn't hold a title. One Singles, One Tag Team, One Womens Wrestler and one ancillary star.

Sake of argument, Foley is still GM. D-Bry on SD and you do it on two nights

He picks AJ Styles, The Ascension & Asuka & Tom Phillips... D-Bry picks Cesaro, DIY, Sasha Banks and Austin Aries

The wildcard on RAW match sees AJ V Cesaro - The Club try to interfere on his behalf but DIY head them off letting Cesaro steal the win... That means SD get the Wildcard draw.

The random draw comes up... Shinsuke Nakamura...

On SD it shifts to the Diva's and tag teams.. those draws get made and the wildcard match is DIY v The Club... The Club steal the win with AJ interference getting RAW the wildcard... Steph steals the pick from Foley and she gets Heath Slater... She kicks off and demands one more wildcard match - the women...

Asuka narrowly loses to Sasha when Steph gets in her way and SD draft... Roman Reigns or Asuka wins and Foley makes the pick and gets Randy Orton.

That style would make a tight, logical focused draft that would make good TV for the 2 nights
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Smackdown has fewer flaws, but are a little more deep than a majority of the ones Raw had. If there is a draft even just a few major trades and a call up or two can probably polish up the current issues on both shows. Smackdown Tag Title scene comes to mind from something that could benefit. As well as some of the talented cruiser weights that kind of just undercard on 205 Live to the main few or do filler matches on RAW. The depth in the womens division is actually deep, but it could benefit as well. A main thing that pops in my head is the IC and US title.

I guess the Draft would be shortly following mania, because a lot of these looming angles that have been built for months have ensnared nearly all the talent that are pushed as Main eventers. It's dragged at times, and new flavor being injected would be gladly welcomed and refreshing.

A lot of people come to mind, and even a few guys immediately from NXT. One I wouldn't mind seeing is Aj Styles going to RAW. I've seen him on Smackdown nearly every week and he's entertained me every single one of those weeks and PPV's. The thing is that I'd like to see Wyatt, Ziggler, Crews, Corbin, Ambrose, etc in that same light. They do well in the 2 hours, but I'd like to see AJ get some new matches or programs under his belt. It'd give me a good reason to watch RAW as well. I'll also say The Miz, Cena, Orton, Kane, Rhyno, and even Heath have had interesting to incredible moments and it'd be great to see them more or used more effectively.

There's a much bigger list of people from Raw that I'd like to see on Smackdown than vice versa. I like Bayley, Sasha, and Charlotte there. I just have a feeling Asuka will be put on RAW instead of Smackdown with her debut, and I'd prefer them keep everything where it's at given current context. Roman, Braun, Cesaro, and Zayn are ones I'd love to see on Smackdown. I think Roman would be pretty tolerable on Smackdown, and there's a few guys on the show that could have some good chemistry with him.

I kind of like the Triple H, Authority deal being solely on RAW. Kind of eh on Kevin, Samoa Joe, and Rollins being webbed into that category, but I'd prefer them not crossover that deal at all to Smackdown. I'd like to see more competition / head to head stuff with the brand for sure, but I'd honestly prefer it without any ridiculous angles and them just being two different entities. Makes PPV's like Survivor Series a bit more valuable and unsaturated.
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The titles need to remain on their respective brands if they have a draft in 2017. Why move the Smackdown Tag Team Championship to Raw, for example? The red set of tag belts may have the history but they clearly belong on the red brand due to their name and design. The same can be said for the two Women's Championships. Why move the Raw Women's Champion to Smackdown? It could get very complicated with having to re-do the title structure when it is set up just fine. I could see the midcard titles possibly being eligible for a switch and it would not effect them in design or anything but I like having them both where they currently are. Would the Universal Championship get changed to a blue strap if it trades brands with the World Heavyweight Championship? No thanks. The champions should be immune from being drafted.

With that being said I think they should allow the possibility of trades or bring back the draft lottery. So long as the titles and champions are not moved for the reasons stated above. NXT wrestlers should also be eligible for main roster promotions through the draft. In NXT's case the champions would also be eligible though they would then have to forfeit their title in exchange for accepting a main roster promotion. I'm against NXT being able to "draft" any main roster names back down to their brand, however. That's a demotion and no one wants a demotion. NXT returns should be done outside of the draft. I look forward to seeing how a draft ends up being handled either way since it truly does come off as it being a "time to shake things up again" as Vince says in that clip they like to use.
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Why bother with a draft anyways, they were predictably boring (contrary to the overhyping of the announcers) and pretty much led to half of the roster being turned over every year (adding in the 5 drafts each side got on the show, plus the supplemental drafts).

What should be done is the original plan back when the roster was originally split. Before GM's it was Vince controlling SD, and Ric Flair controlling Raw. Once the GM's came into play, instead of a draft you had a set period of time where all the wrestlers became free agents, and could choose to sign wherever. Thus you had unpredictability in that at any time a wrestler would show up on the other brand as they were "signed away" such as Jericho and Guerrero for examples.

In this current era, you have a 30 day period, probably May or June, when all superstars are free agents. They then can sign to whatever brand they want. A caveat is to explain that the titles are the exclusive property of the brands, so if your a raw champion for example, and you want to sign to SD Live, then you must forfeit the title. Think of the possibilities in such scenarios. It would also allow for certain stale tag teams to be split up without the lame rational they gave at the 2016 draft (Kalisto and Sin Cara have decided to go into the draft as individuals... what?!?). At the end of the 30 day period, the signing window would close, and superstars are stuck on the brand they are on for the next year or so. They can even do a WWE network special on the last day/hours of the draft if they wanted.

Let me know what people think about this.
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Here's a few moves that I think are obvious and a few that I think are necessary.

To Smackdown:
Roman Reigns - this seems obvious considering it was mentioned somewhere by Vince
Sami Zayn - IC title push would be nice
The Brian Kendrick - he's so good and isn't doing much now that Neville has taken over the 205 division. He could be a top midcard heel or face on Smackdown, who sorely need a midcard
Sasha Banks - I think a heel turn is in the works
The New Day - the Tuesday tag division needs stars

To Raw
Cena - This is happening sooner than later, be honest
Nikki - goes where Cena goes
AJ Styles - they won't resist the temptation
Kalisto - cruiserweight
Usos - could be doing more

Whatever happens I think they need to leverage a few things. The 205 live crew is pretty stacked while Smackdown's midcard is very thin. There are a few 205 live guys that are larger than life and could be doing more. The aforementioned Kendrick, Gentleman Jack, Austin Aries, Neville, and even TJ Perkins could work in other divisions despite size.

They need to drop the purple ropes and just have the cruiserweights be a part of Raw. Wait until after Mania. The cruiserweights could be rounding out Raw's thin tag division. Kalisto could come to Raw and be 205 as well as in Lucha Dragons (if Sin Cara still has a job). That way you can utilize an overcrowded division to bolster a thinner one.

This would also make it easier to transition one or two of the more over guys to Smackdown. Smackdown should have a couple more midcard picks, but I doubt they go that way. Past drafts have often seen Smackdown gleaned to benefit Raw. That may not be the case anymore.

The Raw tag scene lacks depth as the Smackdown midcard does. The women's divisions need to seperate Banks and Flair, as well as separating Bliss and Lynch.
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Here's a few moves that I think are obvious and a few that I think are necessary.

To Smackdown:
Roman Reigns - this seems obvious considering it was mentioned somewhere by Vince
Sami Zayn - IC title push would be nice
The Brian Kendrick - he's so good and isn't doing much now that Neville has taken over the 205 division. He could be a top midcard heel or face on Smackdown, who sorely need a midcard
Sasha Banks - I think a heel turn is in the works
The New Day - the Tuesday tag division needs stars

To Raw
Cena - This is happening sooner than later, be honest
Nikki - goes where Cena goes
AJ Styles - they won't resist the temptation
Kalisto - cruiserweight
Usos - could be doing more

Whatever happens I think they need to leverage a few things. The 205 live crew is pretty stacked while Smackdown's midcard is very thin. There are a few 205 live guys that are larger than life and could be doing more. The aforementioned Kendrick, Gentleman Jack, Austin Aries, Neville, and even TJ Perkins could work in other divisions despite size.

They need to drop the purple ropes and just have the cruiserweights be a part of Raw. Wait until after Mania. The cruiserweights could be rounding out Raw's thin tag division. Kalisto could come to Raw and be 205 as well as in Lucha Dragons (if Sin Cara still has a job). That way you can utilize an overcrowded division to bolster a thinner one.

This would also make it easier to transition one or two of the more over guys to Smackdown. Smackdown should have a couple more midcard picks, but I doubt they go that way. Past drafts have often seen Smackdown gleaned to benefit Raw. That may not be the case anymore.

The Raw tag scene lacks depth as the Smackdown midcard does. The women's divisions need to seperate Banks and Flair, as well as separating Bliss and Lynch.
TO be fair I think that's their idea... stack 205 to get it started and raid it like NXT... bad move - they were probably counting on bringing in Zack Sabre Jr... possibly Ricochet to anchor it once they move Neville back up... In honesty Jack Gallagher belongs on the main roster and not as a tag guy... he's more interesting to watch than Zayn and can play the same role... crash test dummy who gets wins occasionally. Of all the cruisers so far, Gallagher is the one who has made it work best from zero... English bias maybe, but like I said before give him Paige when she returns as a manager... put her in a catsuit ala Emma Peel and you have WWE Avengers (not Marvel)
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