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Old 11-12-2017, 04:17 PM
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Hopefully they stick with one name too. Too many name changes and now since they left Orlando, it hopefully wont have that amusement park feel to it.
Don't be surprised if they just moved it to Canada's Wonderland in the North Part of Toronto, in all honesty I could see them doing that.
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Old 11-12-2017, 04:39 PM
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Don't be surprised if they just moved it to Canada's Wonderland in the North Part of Toronto, in all honesty I could see them doing that.
The funny thing is, at the rate they are going, i wouldn't be even surprise if they do that for real during the summer. I just finish watching Slammiversary from this past summer and the one thing that hit me as how a company that was able to produce that slammiversary PPV could lose so much momemtum and talent in such a short time. I Look at Slammiversary and i saw stories that were entertaining, Talents that felt like a big deal and a all around well booked show and then i move to the Bound for glory PPV which felt like an glorified indy show with talents that felt all like low mid carders or just plain mid carders. Stories that made no senses, repetition with the ending of the matches and just a plain boring wrestling show.

The IMPACT TV show isn't better, they're so busy making sure that the guys from other promotions and that won't stay pass a certain amount of date get over while the remaining talent that are staying with the company are either release because they can't stay with the company because they are a Canadian company now and will barely put on shows in the u.s. or just get forgotten all together. I can't watch the show anymore because off how boring the show as become. Sadly, they really need to bring in talents that feel like big deals if they want to survive. another thing i would love them to do is either bring in more tag teams or just scrap the entire tag team division all together. I love LAX, they're one of the rare act that i actually love in the company, the Problem is they only have OvE to feud with and these guy are boring to watch and this feud as lasted so long that i feel like it's time to move on and bring more tag teams in the division already.

In the end, i don'T know if Anthem is waiting to hit rock bottom before actually finding a way to make the company feel important, but for now, they make Dixie Carter look like a competent owner compare to how they are doing things now. I hope for their sake that they can turn around the product because that'S what'S hurting the most right now but let'S face it as much as i don'T want to see wrestlers lose their job, for most of the roster, it's won't be as big of a deal if the company closes or not and for the few that actually feel like big stars like Rosemary and Allie, i feel like NXT would pick them up in a heartbeat if IMPACT would close tomorrow.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:32 PM
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Seriously I don't even know where they will be able to hold the shows here. The Air Canada Centre is out of the question, it's the home of the Maple Leafs and Raptors. The Ricoh is the home of the Toronto Marlies and forget the Rogers Centre.

Plus all of these places would be hugely expensive and I'm not sure that they could even afford to pay the fees. The only place I can think of is the Mattamy Athletic Centre, the third floor of the old Maple Leaf Gardens. It can hold about 1,600 people, but I'm not sure that TNA could even get that many people out.

They would have to heavily advertise the shows and make the tickets prices very attractive. Considering the dismal job they did of advertising their last PPV in Ottawa, I'm not sure this venture will work.
ROH ran a PPV out of there in like 2012 or 2013. I forget which.



I wonder what kind of attendance they were able to bring in? Might help to gauge how well (or how poorly) Impact might do trying to do the same.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:54 PM
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Seriously I don't even know where they will be able to hold the shows here. The Air Canada Centre is out of the question, it's the home of the Maple Leafs and Raptors. The Ricoh is the home of the Toronto Marlies and forget the Rogers Centre.

Plus all of these places would be hugely expensive and I'm not sure that they could even afford to pay the fees. The only place I can think of is the Mattamy Athletic Centre, the third floor of the old Maple Leaf Gardens. It can hold about 1,600 people, but I'm not sure that TNA could even get that many people out.

They would have to heavily advertise the shows and make the tickets prices very attractive. Considering the dismal job they did of advertising their last PPV in Ottawa, I'm not sure this venture will work.
Tickets Prices won't really be a factor if i base myself on how cheap the prices for the PPV and Tapings were in Ottawa, the problem is finding a small venue that won't cost them a arm and a legs to host those tapings. It's pretty much the same problem they will have anywhere in canada not just Toronto or Montreal which doesn't have a lot of small venue to rent either.

As far as marketing goes, i feel they could do more then hoping that everybody watch IMPACT on either Fight network or Game TV in canada or follow them on social media because right now, it's the only way they use to advertise those shows which i feel isn't enough to get fans to pay to see their shows. They really need to get themselves out there and send some of their guys to do t.v and radio interviews to plug the shows even if it's a student radio show like the one we got in here in montreal on CJLO. They had a great way to plug the show when the LAW was still on the air but they pretty much cancelled the whole show when they fired everybody that worked on the show.

In the end, They really need to get themselves out there and to plug away outside of their confort zone, that'S what i was talking about when Dixie owns the company and i'm saying that with Anthem as well. If they stick to only promoting they're show on their networks during the tv shows, they will continue with that trend of not attracting people to their tapings.
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:05 PM
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Don't be surprised if they just moved it to Canada's Wonderland in the North Part of Toronto, in all honesty I could see them doing that.
That would be terrible but i do not know Anthems business model if they even have one that is. I hope not as they should try to fill venues not be in an amusement park setting.
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Old 11-12-2017, 08:20 PM
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The big problem with this is that now, they will have to get more Canadian wrestlers because it's going to be harder for American performer or pretty much anybody foreign to come in and work full time for the company since we have stricter boarder laws then in the U.S.

Also while they might get a tax break for doing their tapings in canada, it's not like they have made money off this week's taping. Sure the PPV was sold out but the rest of the tapings we're pretty much free tickets with a really small percentage of fans actually paying to get in. So if this continue to be the trend, they might go bankrupt pretty quickly and this might affect even more their others venture like The Fight Network and game TV.

In the end, i wish them all the best because they still have a couple of great talent on the roster and i don't want them to lose their job over this risk that they are taking right now but in this rate with what they are doing right now, i feel that this might be their last chance to be relevant. It's do or die for IMPACT right now, if they don't succeed their done.
Turning their roster into more Canadian wouldn't be a bad idea. There are tons of great talent in Canada that are not used. There's tons of feds in Canada with top talent that Impact could tap into. Also they could do cross-promotions with these feds.

That is all Great. But I wish Impact would have tried to do that way back and make themselves a southern US fed. Create a good southern territory fed travelling to the same cities. And when you have success in this small area, you can grow. Sometime I feel like they tried to be too big too soon. Oh well.

But at the end of the day the biggest reason why ROH is doing better and always better word of mouth than Impact is one of BRANDING. What is Impact, what was TNA? Not sure. What is ROH, I see the emblem, I see the style of wrestling and it's for the hardcore fans of a certain style. I can understand why a young man would see the promos and publicity and might be attracted to it. There's nothing about Impact that excites anybody or capture the imagination, regardless of who they have on the roster. Compare that to LU, it was something innovative and progressive and badass. Part of the reason for that is that Impact are still run by old guys like Dutch Mantel. You need a visionary, a younger man to shape them and who would understand what young men would be attracted to. Someone like Court Bauer from MLW for example.

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Here we go again with this saga. Some solid points have been made about this, more so negative than positive. For starters, the crowd issue. It will no doubt be a difficult task if indeed they want to do tapings over a five day period (correct me if I got this wrong). Secondly, the issue with some of the talent having difficulty going back and forth into Canada. Now I'm sure there are plenty of up and coming talent in Canada that could be called upon in a pinch, but the key is a big name. Right now, who the biggest Canadian talent they have aside from Petey Williams? It seems that Anthem is swinging for the fences with Impact, and I don't know what could be done if this effort falls through.
You hit an interesting point about Petey. They are walking into (almost) a brand new market and they don't really have many name guys to sell and they don't have any local talents to really appeal to the fans either. Del Rio and Mundo have some name value, but not enough to sell out buildings, and like you said, Petey, an X Division lifer, is really their only decently known Canadian talent that I can think of. Gail was technically Canadian, but I'm not sure how much of a draw she truly was. A majority of the Knockouts are Canadian, but I don't think any of them are truly draws at this point.

That said, I'm not sure who they could really bring in right now who would fit those needs.
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Old 11-12-2017, 08:43 PM
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You hit an interesting point about Petey. They are walking into (almost) a brand new market and they don't really have many name guys to sell and they don't have any local talents to really appeal to the fans either. Del Rio and Mundo have some name value, but not enough to sell out buildings, and like you said, Petey, an X Division lifer, is really their only decently known Canadian talent that I can think of. Gail was technically Canadian, but I'm not sure how much of a draw she truly was. A majority of the Knockouts are Canadian, but I don't think any of them are truly draws at this point.

That said, I'm not sure who they could really bring in right now who would fit those needs.
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Another issue Whatever TNA is calling themselves this week will have with some of the venues like Ricoh, Windsor's Wfcu, London's budweiser, Hamilton's copps/first Ontario is the fact that wwe probably has exclusivity contracts with them.

Another idea suggestion for them esp if they want a decent attendance in Canada is to look at the casino option.

They will get a crowd. Mostly comped but they will get a crowd.
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ROH ran a PPV out of there in like 2012 or 2013. I forget which.



I wonder what kind of attendance they were able to bring in? Might help to gauge how well (or how poorly) Impact might do trying to do the same.
That was ROH All Star Extravaganza VI. In 2014. And they were able to bring in 1100 people in attendance.

That would be good enough for IMPACT.

There's also a Ted Reeve Arena in Toronto which was hosted many times by ROH. With 1500 people in attendance. That would be apt if IMPACT goes to Toronto.
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