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Stan Hansen |
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22 | 75.86% |
Big Daddy |
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7 | 24.14% |
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![]() Why? He still only was big in one area & that area ultimately is down on the hierarchical list behind N.A. & Japan. Hansen blasted people in those two big markets and also a huge draw in Puerto Rico.
Big deal in one place does not outweigh big deal everywhere you went. |
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Hansen wasn't this revered draw that most portray him as. He was an excellent villain who would play his role perfectly only to eventually be defeated by the conquering hero. Bruno did it, the AJPW natives did it, Hogan did it and even Luger did it in reclaiming his United States title. Big Daddy would do it too. He was a sizable draw, but to compare the level of attraction he could draw versus the business that Daddy could bring is, well it's laughable frankly.
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I get that Big Daddy had the celebrity status of any of the names you've mentioned, but he was never tested like they were. Big Daddy was featured in the Sunday comics, so of course you'd cheer for him when he had that negative five-star match against Giant Haytacks. Stan Hansen left lasting impressions on the fans when he'd dominate big names like Giant Baba and Vader. Quote:
Stan had a chip on his shoulder, and prior to his matches he would put himself into a mental state where you had to be a tough son of a bitch or a prowrestling mainstay to be able to beat him. I'll give you that Stan swallowed his pride for his match with Hogan, but I'm going to need more convincing to look at Big Daddy as another version of Hogan. Hogan is often mocked for having a leg drop as a finisher, if Big Daddy attempted a leg drop he would never walk again. Quote:
I feel like you're trying to convince me that the most popular wrestler in an obscure indy league deserves to beat one of the most popular wresters in the world. World of Sport was at best a carnival side show. Stan Hansen spent his career mixing it up with the greatest from around the world, and Big Daddy wouldn't have lasted a minute anywhere else. Quote:
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![]() The ignorance that surrounds Stan Hansen is stunning really.
Let me debunk some Hansen myths. 1) Safety: -For someone the internet is so convinced was unsafe, basically every promoter in the world put their most important people in the ring with him. AWA put Rick Martel in there, WCW put Luger, AJPW put all of the Pillars in there with him PLUS Baba, etc., WWF put Bruno in there (the one that got hurt IN THE 70s!), the list goes on. When Terry Gordy bowed out of a HUGE match with Hogan in Japan, Hogan, notorious for wanting to work pillow soft, accepted Hansen as the fill in. He worked stiff yes, but he was a smart worker as well and the safety thing is totally made up. 2) Being a draw outside of the United States: -I know it's hard for people to believe this now, but there was a time when being a draw in the United States didn't pay what it paid to be big in Japan. Brody and Hansen were two of the highest paid wrestlers in the WORLD, outclassing basically every but Hogan through the 80s. Hansen was extremely loyal to Baba for taking care of him and Brody. He wouldn't do anything to mess that up, but as a draw, he did HUGE money for Japan. -Hansen wasn't just a gaijin heel in All Japan, he was top of the card for a decade. He wasn't some "monster of the week" for someone to slay, he dominated. He carried the Triple Crown, beat the snot out of the Three Pillars and spent years as the guy those people couldn't conquer. He was for AJPW what Taker was to WWF. The biggest, meanest, baddest dog in the yard that was involved at the top of every program. -Hansen didn't go US full time because at the top of AJPW he was paid more than any single promoter could pay in the United States. He was making more than the vast majority of guys in the states! It was a different era. He would accept runs in the states as long as they didn't jeopardize his ability to be on the big cards in Japan and when ever he did come to the States he was rightly treated as a big freaking deal. The only reason he didn't work a program in WWF, say to job to Hogan, is Vince wanted control of schedules. Was never going to make sense for Hansen to take a paycut, walk away from Japan and go job to Hogan. Stan Hansen was a monster. He was a TREMENDOUS worker who worked marathons with guys like Kawada, Misawa, Kobashi and could look like the better guy. He had insane stamina for a man his size, working deep at a crazy pace. He could also work insane sprints. The level of violence he could demonstrate in the ring and the speed and fury he could keep up was unprecedented. Hansen was on billboards and had mainstream advertisements in Japan. The dude is an absolute legend, was beloved by the audiences and got over everywhere he went. He knocks the poop out of Big Daddy and should be a favorite in the tournament if people would go fully immerse themselves in his history. |
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![]() If this was like match 3 or something equal to close a show/end a feud, then its Easy Easy.
It isnt & the southern heel would whip the visiting foreigner in a first meeting. Much like the Lawler/Joe fight would go & for similar reasons. Daddy has nothing to stop Hansen & Hansen hates glitter. |
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Daddy was a mega-star in his market, Hansen was a big deal, but nothing is going to collapse without him at the helm.
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