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Old 02-12-2018, 06:43 PM
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It's enjoyable now because they have several women who can actually wrestle. After Trish and Lita left the division became a complete total waste of time. Far too many were pushed with little more reasoning beyond them being attractive. There was a reason people would always refer to the divas matches as a chance to take a break before a more relevant match would come on. Then after AJ and Paige gave some hope of recovery for a dying division, we began seeing Divas Championship matches that were worth watching. Then others such as the four horsewomen, Alexa Bliss, and more came up to the main roster. The women had the best match of the night at Wrestlemania 32. History being made is also exciting. The first women's Hell In A Cell. The first women's Money In The Bank, disregarding the stupid ending. The first women's Royal Rumble. Now we will get the first women's Elimination Chamber. We get to see history happen AND the women are genuinely good in the ring as well as on the mic. The colossal improvement in quality for the division more than explains the sudden increase in interest for watching the women's division matches.
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Old 02-12-2018, 07:16 PM
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Honestly I do see the point the OP tried to make. Women's wrestling in WWE over the last year or so hasn't been too interesting.

On Raw, Sasha and Bayley have been horribly underused while Alexa has practically dominated the division. On Smackdown, not much of anything has really happened. I honestly can't remember hardly anything about their division over the last year.

Now with that said, the women's wrestlers in WWE are certainly capable of having good wrestling matches and just as capable as the men. However just like the males, they need the writing and booking to back them up. And unfortunately that hasn't happened.
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:58 PM
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If you're not a fan of women's wrestling, then I guess you're just not a fan. It sounds to me like the OP simply prefers the old days when the women were really little more than masturbatory fodder but I'm glad those times are gone. If you're able to put on entertaining matches and are someone that's able to make me care enough to invest my time in keeping up with what program you're doing, then I don't care if you're male or female. I just enjoy watching good wrestling. I have no interest in 2 minute filler matches, bikini contests, lingerie matches, pillow fight matches, dance offs or any of that other nonsense that made women's wrestling in WWE an industry wide joke.

Does sex appeal still have some impact? Sure, I imagine so. That would explain the hair extensions, make up and the skimpy outfits but I don't believe it has remotely the sort of impact it did once up on a time. As has been pointed out, with the easy access and virtually unlimited amount of porn online, the thrill of seeing hot women scantily clad on TV no longer remotely has the appeal it did 20 to 25 years ago. If you were a teenager during the 90s as I was, the pinnacle of cool was managing to get your hands on a copy of Playboy or Hustler.
You can jack your hammer to Hustler all you want, but you have no leg to stand on when saying what cool is. And invest your time? Anyone who follows your posts knows your time is spent watching wrestling and little else. That’s fine if you love it that much. But don’t act like you’d do anything else if the “program” wasn’t up to your standards. The women aren’t as entertaining to some as they are to others. You saying that not liking them means you’re not a fan is ridiculous. Go ahead and like whatever you want, but get off your wrestlezone forum high horse when trying to tell people what they like. Get over yourself.
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Old 02-13-2018, 12:37 PM
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I personally never cared about women's wrestling in the past, because of how it was portrayed. It just wasn't taken seriously and it was all based around sexuality and gimmick matches. While women like Trish Stratus, Molly Holly, Victoria and Mickie James exemplified good wrestling, the focus was more often than not on women's sexuality rather than in-ring skills. If I wanted to see Sable showing off her assets, I'd just look up a bikini picture of her. I watched wrestling for the wrestling, not just for the sake of eye candy. Women's wrestling was really limited and so I never cared about it.

In present day, I care more about women's wrestling because it has moved away from emphasizing sexuality. However, when I mention the likes of Becky Lynch or Natalya, they're just criticized for being bland or boring. Bayley isn't being booked strong and she's another one who has the in-ring skills. Emma was released and she was my favourite. Paige is (probably) done. Asuka and Charlotte are the only other two I find to be top tier. There is nothing particularly interesting going on from what I've seen. If they could put these women in good feuds with good storylines, maybe I'd be more compelled to invest more time into their programs.
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:24 PM
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If you're not a fan of women's wrestling, then I guess you're just not a fan. It sounds to me like the OP simply prefers the old days when the women were really little more than masturbatory fodder but I'm glad those times are gone.
When I think of women's wrestling in the old days, "masturbatory fodder" is one of the last phrases that comes to mind. Sure, some of the ladies were attractive but most were just average looking people. It wasn't until the nineties that it seemed most were really good looking, at least in my eyes. On the whole, I believe the women wrestling now are far more attractive than in "the old days".
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Old 02-13-2018, 02:39 PM
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I appreciate the OP's honesty, I get it in the sense that I don't watch the WNBA, but I struggle to understand why he/she would watch much WWE at all. I think most professional wrestling/WWE fans are watching for the drama, acting, storylines etc. as much as the wrestling. Yes, you occasionally get Brock/Braun but most of the action (Raw, SD, low/mid card PPV matches) is kind of subpar in comparison.

I enjoy this crop of women and a lot of the writing that has been done with them. They have a good bunch of actresses with a decent narrative. Not everything is good (e.g. the initial Divas Revolution, Bayley), but the women have been more interesting than the men for the last couple of years. Charlotte is terrific, Becky works her ass off and seems to have genuine emotion, Mickie James is fun, Alexa plays her mean girl part so well. Nia is more Big Show than Andre but still can do good work, Asuka has been slow but steady, Sasha is playing the crowd amazingly well, Carmella has her moments, and now the Rousey card flips everything upside down.

But I get it. It is not for everyone. For example, I wish I could enjoy the Cruiserweights but they feel like a copy of a copy of the men's division.

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Women’s wrestling has improved vastly from the time I started, back in 1989, to today. Athletes in general, in all forms of sports and entertainment have improved vastly. Now if you’re watching for the wrestling, you’ll notice it. If you watching for the entertainment, you may not notice it, only because the storylines today are probably boring you, like me.

Until I see a Women’s Intercontinental Championship Title Belt, a Women’s United States Championship Title Belt, Raw Women’s Tag Team Championship Title Belts, and Smackdown Women’s Tag Team Championship Title Belts, the opinion / perception of inequality may never change. Imagine a Women’s Cruiserweight Championship Title Belt or a United “Queendom” Championship Title Belt, or NXT Women’s Tag Team Championship Title Belts. Now that’s equality!!
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Womens wrestling wasn't always about sex and bikini fights that was only during the attitude era, During the late 80's in the WWF, Women seemed to be featured quite highly they had the world and tag team titles during this time, Had their own match at first Survivor series and even Cyndi Lauper who was big in this period was involved. As years went on it seemed to fade but I've always enjoyed womens matches, If its a good match it doesn't really matter to me if its male or female, I do believe womens wrestling at the moment is the best its ever been and at some point in the near future they will headline a Wrestlemania.
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Old 02-14-2018, 09:25 AM
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Yeah I completely forgot about that. My error. I've seen Luna Vachon, Alundra Blayze, Sensational Sherri during the late 80s and early 90s. I guess when I spoke about the past, I was reminded of the Attitude Era because that's what I was exposed to the most when it came to the women. I'm aware of the rich history of women's wrestling in the past with the likes of Fabulous Moolah, but that was before my time so I never saw.
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I absolutely agree with you. I find the women's matches to be long and boring. At least with the old Divas matches they were short and quick. The women's matches are just so slow that I always find myself fast forwarding through them.
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