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Old 10-29-2012, 11:35 AM
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With all this happening its really hard to picture Dolph Ziggler in the World Title picture down the line. It just seems any point in inserting him now might feel it was done just to get "it over with".

Of course simple logic would have Ziggler to somehow cash in his MITB contract by beating Big Show or when Sheamus regain the title only for Ziggler to cash in immediately. Problem I see here is that I don't think Ziggler vs. Sheamus would be a good enough Main Event at Wrestlemania.

So this is what I predict
Big Show wins the World Title
Sheamus wins it back at Survivor Series but Ziggler Cashes in the MITB
Daniel Bryan wins the Royal Rumble
Randy Orton wins the WHC at Elimination Chamber

This sets up either a Triple Threat Match with Orton vs. Bryan vs. Sheamus or a Fatal Four Way Elimination Match with Orton vs. Bryan vs. Ziggler vs. Sheamus.

Personally I prefer the former, I think it will build to a better story having three guys instead of four.

As For The Big Show, yeah I doubt he's holding the title for long. He will either drop it at TLC or Survivor Series. I actually think Big Show vs. Ryback might be a good opportunity to happen at Wrestlemania.

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Old 10-29-2012, 12:08 PM
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Honestly, I almost cried when Big Show won that title. Despite this guy's size, I believe he is one of the most underrated superstar in the WWE. The most evident proof is that everyone is shocked because they are not really looking forward on this match with Big Show involved. All those hard work sure has payed off now that he once again hold that gold. A well deserved win for him.

Seriously, I don't know who can stop the giant right now. Smackdown's super face Sheamus has been beaten cleanly and currently, no one in the roster can overtake him in the power rankings - yet. The only way to get that title from him is to utilize Ziggler's briefcase ala Daniel Bryan last year. Or Mark Henry might return?

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I don't have a problem with Show being champion, however, whats next that we haven't seen?

I think even if Dolph Ziggler were to win the title anytime between now and the rumble would be a mistake. He has no opponents that he hasn't already faced before. I think at this point, the 'E' is at a crossroads. Where can they go? they have exhausted all their creativity. I want to have a positive outlook but they have jobbed Ziggler the same way they jobbed Swagger. When these guys get their opportunities it just comes off past due. Nobody would pay to see ziggler vs. show or sheamus vs. ziggler for that matter. Due merely to the fact that he would be dominated. I am not saying that isn't apart of his character but we DON'T want another Miz on our hands.

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Old 10-29-2012, 01:44 PM
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What is your reaction to Sheamus losing/Big Show winning The World Heavyweight Championship?
Was trilled, never really liked Sheamus as a Champ.

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Dont know and I am interested(which means E did a good job). My guess is that at the old scenario at Survivor series Show wins, Sheamus broguedkickes Show and Ziggler cashes in then. But it's a long shot for that and will see..

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Old 10-29-2012, 02:04 PM
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Shockingly enough - as I've never been anything but apathetic about this feud until now - I was really impressed by the match. Really impressed. Everyone was pretty surprised when Show got the second punch and won, right? It's probably the most surprising result since Henry got the belt off Orton last year.

There's a part of that's irked because the whole "Sheamus is Cena! Holy shit - I've got so much insight!" crowd is going to feel validated. Oh well, fuck them. Big Show's champ. That's cool.

My thinking is that Sheamus may very well win it back before long. Who is there in a position to take the belt off Show and hold it for any lengthy amount of time? Ziggler? Orton? Bryan? Maybe I'm entirely mistaken and Big Show will just plough through the competition for months on end.

Either way, seeing Big Show with a world title belt is going to take some readjusting to.

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As far as Ziggler goes, it looks like he's being set up to have a nice semi-long (2-4 months) feud with Cena, which I think is better for him than a cheap cash-in and a coward-heel title reign. Let him eventually win the feud against Cena, and that'll bring him up legitimately. Maybe they're planning on him winning the WHC around RR and keeping it through WM. Like most, I want him to get to that ultimate main event level and stay there too, but it has to be done right. There's no reason in hurrying up his title push if A) there's no clear-cut 6 month or more plan for him, B) there's other wrestlers that will be needing a title push soon, especially if they are also heels like Ziggler (heel Orton which might be coming soon, Barrett?, Henry?, etc), and C) if there's other high profile non-title feuds he can be given for now to build him up further, like against Cena.

And just to continue with this whole Ziggler thought, how about this for fantasy booking......

Ziggler has his Cena feud for a good 4 months until RR......high profile feud, let him be seen 2-3 times on Raw every week for most of those weeks (especially at the beginning and/or ending of Raw), really build him up. At RR, he draws number 1 and lasts until the final 4, putting on a memorable performance. For the next 3 months, he's somehow involved in most segments that the WHC is involved in, even though the champion is in other feuds and has faced 2 different opponents in the 2 ppvs after RR and Ziggler sits RINGSIDE with the briefcase at those ppvs, staring, waiting, watching....but each time, he walks off to the back after the match is over and doesn't cash in (and he doesn't act like he's cashing in and then cowardly runs to the back, he struts off, without teasing the cash in....we're not making him out to be coward heel...he's cocky). He's still appearing in every WHC segment on the weekly shows. At WM, he sits ringside while Bryan (the champion since he won the belt at RR) beats Sheamus (the winner of the RR for the 2nd year in a row) in under 1 minute with a surprise NO Lock out of nowhere. At that moment, he gets up from the announcer's desk, takes off his shirt, he and Bryan stare at each other like they know this is about to be their first true WM moment, and Ziggler cashes in, winning in a 30 minute classic match that will be talked about for years, like the Steamboat-Savage or Austin-Hart match is talked about now.

That's how you build a legit star and a mainstay main event caliber wrestler. From there, they can go in a any number of directions to keep him a top star. Just don't go the cowardly heel route.

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Not sure on the whole story line, but I would love to see a cocky Ziggler, like you said. Running to the back with briefcase in hand doesn't feel right. And frankly, with Vickie GM-ing, maybe it's time for him to separate from her completely. As long as he's with her, he comes off as weak. It's time for him to generate his own heat. Ditching someone who's as contemptible a heel (that's a compliment) as Vickie is hard to do without a face turn, but he could probably manage it.

As far as him getting the WHC, it makes more sense if he gets it from a face. Show is actually more likeable than Ziggler, but I would hate to kill Show's monster heel routine right now. I feel like they have booked themselves into a corner where that is concerned. I'm interested, but not fascinated.

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