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Old 12-30-2017, 06:27 AM
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Yes, but depends on how they present it. Isn't Alexa Bliss the most popular female reality "star" WWE has? She hasn't had a single good match. Literally not one. Has a track record of falling flat, being clunky in the ring, has poor delivery, bad to worst match of the year quality in-ring work, and hasn't had a single memorable moment in comparison to someone like Charlotte and Sasha Banks. So literally just do what they're doing now and the general WWE fan won't care about the bad wrestling and will probably watch it. Between the people who objectify them to a degree where they blatantly disregard their talent or athleticism, the family audience, and WWE conditioned sheep it'll work. Even if they lose money this is great fake and totally inorganic press to make it look like the WWE is progressing women's sports entertainment.
You've got rocks in your head.

Alexa Bliss is one of the stars of the Divas Division. She is great on the mike, and made herself a big deal. I don't know how you can't like her delivery.

I suppose you mark for Asuka. Tell me, when was the last time Asuka had to cut a promo. She doesn't even speak English.
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Old 12-30-2017, 06:37 AM
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Nothing against the women's on the rosters because they are all talented wrestlers, but the way they are booked right now, I don't feel that a all women ppv would work.

Just look at how the women's have been booked lately, we are back to having short matches that mean nothing. The riot vs Naomi match from last Tuesday is a perfect example of that. It lasted less then a minute and didn't help anybody involve.

The other problem is that this would be overshadowed by Stephanie and all the PR surrounding it. They would use the words history so much that the in ring product Won't mean a thing just like all the other first.

Also, you have to take into account that women wrestling is a niche product, so it might be popular with people that subscribe to the network, it Won't

bring in new subscribers which is the goal of wwe. Again look at how the Mae young classic was receive last year. It was popular but didn't increase traffic or subscription numbers, so a all female ppv will probably have the same impact of blah.

In the end, they don't have the star power in the division to carry a all women's ppv. They spend so much energy in making sure that Charlotte become a household name that they sacrifice the rest of the roster to do it. Asuka is the only one that still fill like a star outside of Charlotte and That's not enough to carry a ppv and be successful with it.

Asuka is the only one who is a star outside of Charlotte?

How about Alexa Bliss. The girl has made herself the consummate heel, and is great on the mike. Does she annoy you? Good, that is her playing her role, meaning that she is good at what she does. Alexa Bliss is a star.

Mickie James is a future Hall-Of-Famer.

Nia Jax would be a star if she was given the booking that Asuka gets.

I don't get how everyone is so high on Asuka. She is only such a "star" because she has been booked as undefeated in NXT. She is a good worker, but couldn't cut a promo to save herself. It is unrealistic to believe that she could beat someone as big as a Nia Jax or Tamina in real life. She would get crushed by them.

People also mark for her because smarks love any wrestler who comes from Japan. People make it sound like that there has never been a bad wrestling match in Japan, and anyone who comes out of there has wrestling cred. Come on, are you telling me that Japanese wrestlers NEVER have poor matches, ever? This is a country with silly game shows and who can't win world wars, yet anyone out of Japan is some wrestling superstar who is talked about as better as anyone else. I bet if half of the other Divas that you bag now were Japanese as well, you would mark for them too.

Let's face it, mate. You just like running down most Divas because, in real life, you wouldn't have a chance with any of them.
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Old 12-30-2017, 10:13 AM
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To those who mentioned the Mae Young Classic, I do not think that should count. It was a tournament with multiple episodes that featured no one who was employed by the WWE at the time. What the threadstarter was looking for, was to see a show like No Mercy or Payback would work if one featured only women wrestlers. I get that people liked the Mae Young Classic but that was completely different from an all female WWE PPV.


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People also mark for her because smarks love any wrestler who comes from Japan. People make it sound like that there has never been a bad wrestling match in Japan, and anyone who comes out of there has wrestling cred. Come on, are you telling me that Japanese wrestlers NEVER have poor matches, ever? This is a country with silly game shows and who can't win world wars, yet anyone out of Japan is some wrestling superstar who is talked about as better as anyone else. I bet if half of the other Divas that you bag now were Japanese as well, you would mark for them too.

Let's face it, mate. You just like running down most Divas because, in real life, you wouldn't have a chance with any of them.
Stone Cold, Daniel Bryan, NXT, Shinsuke Nakamura, gym trainers, people who aren't fat.... and now we can also add Asuka as well as all any wrestler from Japan to your list of people you irrationally hate.

Your comments towards Japan and their wrestlers, to very little surprise quite honestly, were 100% uncalled for. The place somebody lives or wrestles in does not make them a good wrestler or not. Did you get insulted by a gym trainer who liked Stone Cold and just happened to be Japanese? Either you are trolling or are in serious need of professional help. What you said is borderline racist.
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Old 12-30-2017, 02:14 PM
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To those who mentioned the Mae Young Classic, I do not think that should count. It was a tournament with multiple episodes that featured no one who was employed by the WWE at the time. What the threadstarter was looking for, was to see a show like No Mercy or Payback would work if one featured only women wrestlers. I get that people liked the Mae Young Classic but that was completely different from an all female WWE PPV.
An All-Women Network special. Most of it was filmed at the same show, and just shown separately. The differences are negligible at best. It had multiple episodes.....so they had multiple all-women network specials then ?


That's what MYC was. Its not completely different at all


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I love how four years into this thing that people fail to understand the concept of a PPV, and the restrictions surrounding it, are no longer relevant to WWE.

WWE don't care if you buy a PPV. They want you to subscribe to the Network. They have a core audience with the Network. They aren't going to get a bunch of new people joining, and those who have joined are the loyalists who find value in the wide range of content available. WWE can do whatever they want under the Network model.

As was said, they already did it and people enjoyed it. An all female PPV has happened, they did it multiple times, if you think otherwise than you fail to understand the structure by which the WWE is operating now.
Hit it on the head. Its not my fault if people can't grasp evolved presentation.
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Old 12-30-2017, 03:43 PM
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An All-Women Network special. Most of it was filmed at the same show, and just shown separately. The differences are negligible at best. It had multiple episodes.....so they had multiple all-women network specials then ?


That's what MYC was. Its not completely different at all
I disagree for two reasons.

First of all.... The Mae Young Classic is not a PPV. Even when discussing presentation on the WWE Network. If going by that logic then 205 Live's episodes would be considered "PPV" events. Clearly they are not, and neither is the Mae Young Classic. The Royal Rumble is a PPV. Hell In A Cell is a PPV. Whether you talk about watching it on the WWE Network or in the traditional PPV format, only a select few events fit the description of the event that this thread is looking for.

Secondly.... There were no members of the WWE's female roster participating in the event. Sure some such as Kairi Sane and Bianca Belair are now part of NXT, but who from the main roster was in the Mae Young Classic? A former WWE Diva named Serena is the only one who came to mind and she has yet to show up on a Raw or a Smackdown. That's it. The kind of show that the thread is discussing would be a WWE PPV event featuring any of the women from the red and/or blue brands. You could even get legends like Trish or Lita to appear.

THESE women are who the show would need to feature.

Alexa Bliss
Alicia Fox
Asuka
Bayley
Becky Lynch
Carmella
Charlotte
Dana Brooke
Lana
Liv Morgan
Mandy Rose
Mickie James
Naomi
Natalya
Nia Jax
Paige
Ruby Riott
Sarah Logan
Sasha Banks
Sonya Deville
Tamina

Between those women the WWE could make a decent PPV event that has only female wrestlers working matches on that show. It would be a true WWE Women's PPV. Not a bunch of people we will never see in WWE content ever again, in a tournament that in the grand scheme of things means absolutely nothing.
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Old 12-30-2017, 03:55 PM
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I disagree for two reasons.

First of all.... The Mae Young Classic is not a PPV. Even when discussing presentation on the WWE Network.
It was a one time network special. So yes it was.


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Secondly.... There were no members of the WWE's female roster participating in the event.
That's just.....Flat out incorrect. The majority of the field is/was on the WWE roster.

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Why? Because you say so ?

The OP asked if an all-women PPV would work. As has been demonstrated, it already has.



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THESE women are who the show would need to feature.

Alexa Bliss
Alicia Fox
Asuka
Bayley
Becky Lynch
Carmella
Charlotte
Dana Brooke
Lana
Liv Morgan
Mandy Rose
Mickie James
Naomi
Natalya
Nia Jax
Paige
Ruby Riott
Sarah Logan
Sasha Banks
Sonya Deville
Tamina

Between those women the WWE could make a decent PPV event that has only female wrestlers working matches on that show. It would be a true WWE Women's PPV. Not a bunch of people we will never see in WWE content ever again, in a tournament that in the grand scheme of things means absolutely nothing.
Why? Because you say so ? Also, Sarah Logan was in the MYC.

We will see the majority of the MYC field again.

Why would you say the MYC means nothing? I assure you it was ten times the significance of the 88 B show PPVs the WWE puts on every week.
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As Norcal has already pointed out to Dagger, he has several flaws with his reasoning.

Firstly, 205 Live is a weekly show. We're talking isolated events for the sake of clarity. Even though the Mae Young Classic was spread out on release, it was still a one-off. In the Network model of WWE business, it counts the same of WrestleMania and the Royal Rumble. NXT Takeovers are the exact same thing. NXT itself is weekly but the Takeover events are just like PPV's in the old model of business. They count just as the Mae Young Classic does.

Dagger's second reason of the women who were involved flat out doesn't make sense. So what if it didn't feature the main women in WWE? It's still produced by WWE. It was one their Network. A Tim Burton movie is still a movie even if it doesn't feature Johnny Deep.

The use of the term pay-per-view in itself is flawed since that's not what these things are at this point. WrestleMania isn't a PPV, it's a Network Special just like the Mae Young Classic. Can you still get it on PPV? Yes. But you can also get WWE produced DVDs like Best Tag Teams Ever, and those aren't pay-per-views in any era. Simply remaining on a PPV platform doesn't mean it's a PPV. In the same way, NXT Takeovers aren't available for purchase on a PPV platform but I believe many would class them as PPVs.

If you still use the term 'pay-per-view' in regards to WWE than you're behind the times. Let it go.
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shadyfozzie is clearly a Russian troll sent to this forum to get us to turn on each other based on our differing views of today's most important worldly topics. In this case the age old questions, "What is considered a PPV in 2017?" and "What is a success in WWE?"

Bravo comrade shadyfozzie, bravo. I expect your question will ruin many New Year's Eve parties tomorrow night (this is where the Australian members of this forum curse me for ignoring their advancement in time).

And I would defer to WWE to decide if the MYC was a PPV but I didn't watch any of it or pay enough attention to the hoopla to answer that question so I'm sticking with my earlier post assuming that evil commie shadyfozzie was talking about a single evening live event that mainly consists of main roster talents. Someone will have to tell me whether or not that makes me a libtard, or repukeblican.

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shadyfozzie is clearly a Russian troll sent to this forum to get us to turn on each other based on our differing views of today's most important worldly topics. In this case the age old questions, "What is considered a PPV in 2017?" and "What is a success in WWE?"

Bravo comrade shadyfozzie, bravo. I expect your question will ruin many New Year's Eve parties tomorrow night (this is where the Australian members of this forum curse me for ignoring their advancement in time).

And I would defer to WWE to decide if the MYC was a PPV but I didn't watch any of it or pay enough attention to the hoopla to answer that question so I'm sticking with my earlier post assuming that evil commie shadyfozzie was talking about a single evening live event that mainly consists of main roster talents. Someone will have to tell me whether or not that makes me a libtard, or repukeblican.
If only something like the MYC could be used to extrapolate the potential of a one night WWE-Network based event utilizing nothing but women.

You know, since that's what it was, and all.


No, better to obsess over extremely (creepily?) precise definition/structure of a question another person was asking.
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I think they are a few NXT call ups away from trying it. Maybe it happens. We are having the first ever women's royal rumble match, I predict there will be an elimination chamber match for the women, and yeah I can also see an all women's show. Make it a 2 hour network special.
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