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Old 07-25-2011, 03:10 PM
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It doesn't matter how much money Panda has, what matters is how much they are willing to invest in a wrestling side project. The WWE is a wrestling company whose sole purpose is to run a wrestling promotion and promote its wrestlers in other venues, such as getting them in movies, etc for the purpose of extending their wrestling profitability. Panda is an energy company that owns TNA as a hobby. Its just one of the little pet projects, not the focus of the entire company. As such, they will never devote the kind of money that goes into the WWE.

pretty much sums it all up... it's not about how much they have but how much they want to spend on TNA. It's just like pro sports owners of shitty teams, they own it and can make money off of it, but are in no rush to spend more money to try and make more off of it. I hope for the sake of TNA that their owners are not quite in that position, but I'm just using that to make a point. A lot of those teams owners have a ton of money yet they short change their own teams so it can just as easily happen in the wrestling industry as well (again I'm not saying that i think this is what IS happening in tna).

One thing I will say though is, and this is strictly according to what i read on this site, but there was a post after Dest X about how some of the TNA originals aren't happy and morale is down and most don't feel any job security etc. Well if that is the case then that is a damn shame. TNA has been improving throughout time, it hasn't hit that breakout point yet but it just may (look at Punk, as GREAT as he is, he only now hit that breakout point, or so it would seem anyways). It's sad that the talent is unhappy at this point because I feel like TNA could be on the verge of that breakout point, but losing some top originals would be a huge set back. If the report is true, TNA needs to lock those guys up (as paul heyman would say, they are the ones who are gonna hit 600 homeruns in the future so why not snatch em up). I personally think these guys should be given some lucrative k's because that will be a way to attract future talent and possibly get guys to switch over from WWE. The best parts of the 80s and 90s was the way a wrestler could switch over companies and it would be nice to see more guys get fresh starts in TNA and then either become huge stars there or return to WWE as bigger stars and vice versa.
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:16 PM
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the key thing is how the money is spend. just one example - both WCW and TNA spent big money to get Hulk Hogan into the company but there is a difference. when WCW hired Hogan, he was still a fairly big name in wrestling and there were matches (Hogan/Flair, Hogan/Sting) that people wanted to see. plus he could still wrestle somewhat at that time. in order to make WCW seem like real competition to WWF, it made sense to hire Hogan since he was extremely well known. But that was over 15 years ago. Look at the Rock - he is doing exactly what Hogan tried to do (transition to movies, etc) but he is more successful than Hogan was. Hogan was something unique in the late 80's/early 90's but he isn't today which is why TNA hiring him was not nearly as impactful as when WCW hired him. not to say Hogan doesn't have value, but is his value enough to justify keeping him? could the money have been put to a better use? long-term, WCW got their value out of Hogan, TNA probably won't. so it isn't a matter of how much money you have to spend, it is how you use it.

the other thing is that wrestling is WWE's bread and butter but TNA is a side project for Panda. if things got tough, Vince would drop the movies and such but keep RAW going. if things got tight for Panda, TNA would probably be the first thing on the chopping block. Panda is not Ted Turner.
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:16 PM
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the key thing is how the money is spend. just one example - both WCW and TNA spent big money to get Hulk Hogan into the company but there is a difference. when WCW hired Hogan, he was still a fairly big name in wrestling and there were matches (Hogan/Flair, Hogan/Sting) that people wanted to see. plus he could still wrestle somewhat at that time. in order to make WCW seem like real competition to WWF, it made sense to hire Hogan since he was extremely well known. But that was over 15 years ago. Look at the Rock - he is doing exactly what Hogan tried to do (transition to movies, etc) but he is more successful than Hogan was. Hogan was something unique in the late 80's/early 90's but he isn't today which is why TNA hiring him was not nearly as impactful as when WCW hired him. not to say Hogan doesn't have value, but is his value enough to justify keeping him? could the money have been put to a better use? long-term, WCW got their value out of Hogan, TNA probably won't. so it isn't a matter of how much money you have to spend, it is how you use it.

the other thing is that wrestling is WWE's bread and butter but TNA is a side project for Panda. if things got tough, Vince would drop the movies and such but keep RAW going. if things got tight for Panda, TNA would probably be the first thing on the chopping block. Panda is not Ted Turner.
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Old 07-25-2011, 04:43 PM
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Its not about money its what you do with it. Instead of using the money to find some good quality roster they used it on a bunch of washed up wrestlers and former WWE superstars. Money doesnt mean anything in the field of entertainment. Almost everyone who has a TV show is rich, but what separates the successful shows from the not so successful shows is the storyline. TNA is always all over the place. I know if I miss a episode of Smackdown or RAW I'll be able to tune in the following week and figure out whats going on. If I miss TNA, which I often do, then I'm in the dark about whats going on for the majority of the show. They lack structure for lack of better words. One thing that they could use that money for, however, is to get on the road more often.
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Old 07-25-2011, 05:37 PM
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I remember being in the audience for Dixie Carter's YouShoot Live interview, and one of the questions somebody asked was (more or less) "How much would Vince have to offer you to sell TNA to him?" Dixie joked that maybe they should buy WWE and asked how much they were worth.
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Old 07-25-2011, 05:40 PM
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Why are 99% of the WWE fans absolute morons? This is a serious question. I have no problem with anyone until douchebaggery like this comes up. And people wonder why TNA's ratings aren't going up. Well, part of the reason is "fans" like this one walking around, spewing their BS and giving TNA (and the business) a bad name. Go fuck yourself, sir. Go fuck yourself hard.

Anyway, like others have stated - yes, Panda Energy does have more money than WWE. Does it matter? It would if Panda was dumping trucks of cash in TNA. But they're not. They're being smart about it and that's the way to go. Money doesn't buy viewers, so who has more is an incredibly idle argument.

Besides, Panda Energy has zero reason to invest a lot in TNA. Is TNA dying? Absolutely not. Is TNA thriving? Absolutely not. It's doing pretty good, though. It's growing year by year, the product is improving and everything is happening at the pace it should be. Regardless, I doubt that TNA is making Panda Energy a shit load of cash. It's making some, but not enough for Bob and Janice Carter to go "Okay, this is a gold mine, let's invest in it, make it bigger so it'll make us even more money than it is now." Investing a crap load of money in TNA at this point would be nothing but gamble to see if a little green will prove to be a rocket up the comapny's ass.

It's just good to know that TNA is backed up by Panda Energy who has a lot of resources in case something crazy happens, while WWE is mostly backed by itself and they're losing money year by year, more and more. Interest is down, PPV buys are down, ratings are slightly down (RAW), SmackDown is in the shitter, it shows no signs of growing, only shrinking. Meanwhile, the exact opposite is happening in TNA and has been for a quite some time. It's funny how people say TNA is like WCW when if any company is like WCW near the end it's the WWE. Shitty writing, wrestlers wanting out, losing money, losing ratings, throwing loads of cash at wrestlers just so they'd stick around and of course regardless of how bad the product is 99% of the time - a fairly big following of fans that will watch until the damn thing croaks.
STFU you stupid sumbitch! TNA is on life support you asshole and somebody will pull the plug very soon! and since you hate WWE wwith a passion I hope that VKM buys TNA and kill the promotion just like he killed WCW and ECW! i bet you would probaly throw a childish fit and "claim that you are done with pro wrestling! hmmm? isn't vince in take-over mode?! and you are talking shit like you want WWE to fail and cease to exist so your precious TNA can be in your mind the #1 company in the fucking world! dude, if WWE is losing money and CRAPACT WRESTLING is "gaining money" then why the FUCK is tna still having PPV's and IMPACT tapings in a amusement park bingo hall packing what? 1,000-5,000 BOTS or Plants or cocksuckers like YOU,having house shows in school gyms,second rate arenas, and unknown baseball staduims while WWE is packing 4,000 -100,000 butts in seats in MAJOR arenas! and speaking about ratings....you said that WWE will never reach a 5.0....well that might or will never happen but they have shifted from a 2.32-4.5 (RAW) and SD! shifted from a 1.4-2.5 while TNA shifted from a laughable 0.4-1.6 and they been in the 1.0-1.4 range for what? 2 going on 3 years and guess what kiddo, RAW and SD! still beat CRAPACT! and if WWE is "scared" of TNA then WHY THE FUCK DID TNA GET SCARED AND TUCK THEIR TAILS BETWEEN THEIR LEGS AND RUN BACK TO THURSDAY NIGHTS when they were trying to "recreate the monday night wars but got their asses handed to them by VKM! (i bet when cena said last monday that he will appear on that other show and keep doing what he does best...BROTHER! you probaly was jumping up and down like a queer on a TNA wrestler) and ppv's... yes WWE have had some shitty ppv's but they have had some GREAT ppv's as well! hell, MITB is now being talked about as the PPV of the year in pro wrestling! while crapination x is just an afrerthought LOL! are you GAY? because IMO you are constantly bending over for hulk hogan and bitchoff, taking it in the ass by hogan while sucking on bitchoff's cock! and were you the one who blamed john graziano when hogan's dickhead of a son tried to kill him? or when linda hogan said that hulk tried to kill her you wish that she was dead you assclown!
i am a WWE mark and proud to be one!!! and i rather watch the #1 wrestling company's shows RAW! and SD! rather than be a plant in an amusement park casino watching paint dry! and yes I AM A WWE SUPPORTER! for those kids who "think i am kissing WWE's ass.

HEY zeven zindy:

IF WWE BOUGHT TNA WOULD YOU STOP WATCHING PRO WRESTLING KIDDO?
AND YOU ARE TELLING US WWE FANS TO GO FUCK OURSELVES? HMMM? AREN'T HOGAN,BITCHOFF,JARRETT,RUSSO,AND BORASH DOING THE TRAIN ON YOU ASSHOLE! AND AREN'T YOU JACKING OFF TO HH AND BITCHOFF! IMO LITTLE GIRL YOU NEED LAY OFF THE HOGAN SPERMADE BECAUSE IMO I THINK THAT STD HOGAN AND HIS MERRY MEN GAVE YOU IS FUCKING UP YOUR BRAIN WHERE YOU CAN'T THINK STRAIGHT AND THAT'S A DAMN SHAME LOL!:l mao:

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Old 07-25-2011, 06:18 PM
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OMG you all are so boring. All the jerkoffs who beat it to TNA say one thing all the WWE flameballs say the opposite, and then it goes on for pages. All you need to do it read the first few posts and times them by many pages. You all have retardation in your blood. While we're on the topic of "you" retards can you please start another hundred posts about rock vs cena...PLEASE!!! I'd love to read more about how "you" feel. So many feelings in this whorehouse.
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:25 PM
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OMG you all are so boring. All the jerkoffs who beat it to TNA say one thing all the WWE flameballs say the opposite, and then it goes on for pages. All you need to do it read the first few posts and times them by many pages. You all have retardation in your blood. While we're on the topic of "you" retards can you please start another hundred posts about rock vs cena...PLEASE!!! I'd love to read more about how "you" feel. So many feelings in this whorehouse.
pardon? what's with the attitude? if you don't like people expressing their opinion, stay the hell out of the thread. only a retard would come back to something they hate time after time just to complain.
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:31 PM
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ok lol love people trying to say panda energy has more money than the wwe here is the facts.
vince is worth around 750 million dollars with company stocks and assets
the wwe is worth 2.14 billion dollars as a corp that there movies there gear from titan sports there deal with USA and SYFI and other venchers.

so lets say about 3 billion

TNA is net worth is 300 million thats there deal with spike and there gear and vids and equipment.

panda energy is made 50 million last year and gave 10 million so TNA could make there payroll march 2010 and give 5 million a year so TNA can make there payroll and pay there debts.

all in all the WWE is king by far and yes the wwe has had rating drops but still is the number 1 show on USA AND SYFI so there contracts will get renewed till the wwe finds a better deal.

both companys do better when they bitch about each other only way wresling as a whole will servive is to ally togther for join events PPV maybe 1 or 2 times a years.
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Old 07-25-2011, 06:37 PM
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ok they put it back

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