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Old 01-09-2013, 12:29 AM
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Yeah, and the US government faked the moon landing and were secretly behind the Oklahoma City bombing and 9/11, right?

Give me a break. Vince isn't sitting in a room somewhere picking and choosing who he likes (with the criteria being that they couldn't succeed anywhere else...WHAT?!?) and telling the writers to push them at the expense of everybody else. You don't get to be the top business in the world, in any field, by making such stupid decisions. You get pushed in the WWE by being the best. And no, I don't mean the best "wrestler." In the WWE, wrestling skills mean precisely dick. And no, I don't mean the best at kissing Vince's ass either. Like I said, you don't succeed if that your standard. I mean the best at getting crowds to care about you. It's that simple. When they send you out to the ring, make the crowd want to see you again. It doesn't matter how you do it. If they want to see you again, the writers will show you to them again. Period.

Ryder got the crowd to care about him. Great. He was rewarded with regular TV time, high profile storylines, even a US title reign. Unfortunately for him, beyond his cult following that he developed online, he was unable to maintain that level of interest among the greater WWE universe. Once it stopped being cool to cheer for that internet guy that never gets a fair chance(because, at that point, he was getting his fair chance - it's like any sports underdog...once they stop being an underdog, many people stop caring about them), it was on Ryder to actually do something in the ring or on the mic to keep their interest, and he doesn't have what it takes. So they scaled him back to his more proper place on the WWE ladder.

In regards to the original topic of Ryder being left off the WWE graphic, two things:

First of all, The Miz was not listed as having the 5th most followers. Nowhere on that graphic did it say it was a list of those who have the most followers. They simply listed five superstars and the number of followers they have.

And secondly, this seems almost so obvious it shouldn't even need to be said, but this is clearly a work. Zack Ryder has complaining about the WWE since they took over his YouTube channel. You really think they would allow him to say that kind of stuff if it wasn't part of a storyline? You really think John Cena would be Touting about it if it wasn't part of a storyline? C'mon people. As soon as Ryder's gimmick got stale, all those months ago, the WWE started implementing phase two: the heel turn. This is just like Christian. Remember when he won the World Heavyweight Championship, then lost it days later, and the IWC lost their collective minds about how stupid it was, blah blah blah? Remember how he then turned heel and was more over than he would've ever been as a face? This is a very similar situation. The WWE planned this out months ago and it's been going perfectly so far. Last night was just the latest step. Eventually Ryder's going to get sick of it, snap(probably on a face, probably John Cena), and his career will be much better for it.

I know you've heard it before. Vince McMahon has said it himself live on TV. The WWE knows what's good for the fans a lot more than the fans do. (especially the IWC) There's a reason their storylines are always much better long term than anything the fans would've come up with. It's because they don't do what they fans think they want. This is just the latest example of that.

possibly one of the best internet comments on any site, ever. absolutely a work with Mr. Hustle, Loyalty, and Respect involved... problem is, ryder still needs better style in the ring. He's got a very loose style that works well in his guido gimmick but he needs a better finisher than the rough rider. I mean there are only so many moves you can do but I believe that he could figure out something a bit more sinister looking. Granted the AA doesnt look painful but Cena lifts huge guys on the reg and tosses em around. A bit more impressive looking than straddling someone when they're lying down. anyway, I digress.

VKM knows his product. He may be out of touch, but the man is professional wrestling. Legacy of wrestling promoters and he oversaw the biggest increase in viewership/popularity in pro wrestling history. It's kind of like the girl you bring home to Mom whom is aboslutely hated by mom. Moms know a lot more about people because they've lived about twice as long as their children and have encountered all types of people and know more about their tendencies. VKM is like everyone's MOM in professional wrestling. He's probably got a ridiculous knowledge of past wrestlers, storylines, swerves, etc. New creative professionals could probably write material for weeks and not come up with a fresh angle that VKM hasn't put out there at least 5 times or something.

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they may chant we want ryder, i havent heard it. but once he comes out, they dont want ryder anymore.

they just think they are trendy and cool because they watch his internet show and follow him on twitter. alot of fans are just sheep

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