WWE & TNA Forum
Wrestling News
Loading...


Go Back   WrestleZone Forums > Wrestling - Non Spam Sections > World Wrestling Entertainment > WWE Pay Per Views
Register FAQForum Rules Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Arcade vBookie

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old 03-23-2018, 11:47 PM
ShinChan's Avatar
ShinChan ShinChan is offline
Gone. For. Good.
ECW TV Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 2,361
ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wrestlingmasters55 View Post
Let's give credit where credit is due, Vince mcmahon is smarter then all of us. The guy knew all along that by leaking the fact that he wanted Reigns to be a top guy to Meltzer and every other dirt sheet writers that the IWC would turn on him right away. The point of this whole push for Roman was never to make him a Austin Level babyface but they wanted another John Cena and that's exactly what they are getting right now.

The reason i write this is simple, more then ever you have a section of the crowd that hates him for whatever reason and you got another section that loves him, so no matter what they do with him from now on, you're going to have this 50/50 dynamic and that's how you make money with a guy. The fans that loves him will buy his merchandise and some of the fans that don't love him will secretly buy his merchandise as well.

So the point i'm making is that in the end, When Reigns wins this match against Lesnar and become the universal champion, you're going to have a portion of the fans that will cheered for the guy and a portion that will boo him. That's kinda were the WWE is mentality is headed right now. Their motto seem to be '' We don't cares if you cheer or boo a guy, all we ask for is that you react''. So Is reigns the best choice to Beat Lesnar, Right Now i would say Yes because he his the face of Raw right now even if some fan really don't like that. The guy that makes the most money for the company should be the champion and Reigns is that guy.


So, fans who don't love Roman Reigns will also buy his merchandise? Really? Do you really even think before speaking the same things over and over with sheer lack of evidence? Or you just don't want to accept facts and want your opinion to be taken as a fact? Or do you secretly buy merchandise of the wrestlers you don't like? You don't, right? If you do, then I can understand.
__________________
Fémının Pro Wrestling
{FPW}
sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-24-2018, 05:20 AM
wrestlingmasters55's Avatar
wrestlingmasters55 wrestlingmasters55 is offline
Registered User
WCW TV Champion
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Montreal,canada
Posts: 1,767
wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinChan View Post


So, fans who don't love Roman Reigns will also buy his merchandise? Really? Do you really even think before speaking the same things over and over with sheer lack of evidence? Or you just don't want to accept facts and want your opinion to be taken as a fact? Or do you secretly buy merchandise of the wrestlers you don't like? You don't, right? If you do, then I can understand.
Do You watch raw or go to live event? If you do then you would have realize that they're some fans that do buy stuff from wrestlers they don't like. Every week you can see on raw a couple of guy wearing a Roman reigns shirt and still booeing him. Same goes at every single live event that I went to.

I'm not saying that everybody that hate reigns will buy his merchandise but there some of them that will. Stop, being blinded by you're hatred for reigns and open your eyes. That's what's happening right now. It's what I like to call the cena effect. Reigns isn't truly hatred, they just love to boo him, that doesn't mean they hate him or won't buy is merch, it just mean that they like to boo him.
sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-24-2018, 05:44 AM
ShinChan's Avatar
ShinChan ShinChan is offline
Gone. For. Good.
ECW TV Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 2,361
ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wrestlingmasters55 View Post
Do You watch raw
Yes, sir.

Quote:
or go to live event?
Nope.

Quote:
If you do then you would have realize that they're some fans that do buy stuff from wrestlers they don't like.
Evidence? Any factual evidence?

Quote:
Every week you can see on raw a couple of guy wearing a Roman reigns shirt and still booeing him.
Firstly, it's rare that I notice Roman Reigns' shirt worn in audience. Secondly, he's gonna be booed. Don't tell me that he isn't at fault.

Quote:
Same goes at every single live event that I went to.
So, that means similar things happen at each and every event?

Quote:
I'm not saying that everybody that hate reigns will buy his merchandise but there some of them that will.
Factual evidence to prove it?

Quote:
Stop, being blinded by you're hatred for reigns and open your eyes.
Oh! GOD! If I keep my opinion, I'm hating Roman Reigns. Thanks a lot for telling me that I hate Roman Reigns. I didn't know. Because I don't believe in hating. Still, thanks for your partial judgement like always. At least, you're consistent being partial. I love consistency.

Quote:
That's what's happening right now. It's what I like to call the cena effect.
Nope. Cena gets a far positive reaction than Roman Reigns. The one who beats the heck outta Cena isn't cheered as heavily as the one who beats Roman Reigns.

Quote:
Reigns isn't truly hatred,
Lol. Numerous moments, Roman Reigns is getting beaten and he gets "You Deserve It" chants. That's possible when hatred is involved.

Quote:
they just love to boo him,
How do you know?

Quote:
that doesn't mean they hate him
How do you know? The audience reaction says otherwise.

Quote:
or won't buy is merch,
How do you know? Have you conducted some survey in which people admit that they boo Reigns just for fun and still buy his merchandise? Or do you do similar things?

Quote:
it just mean that they like to boo him.
Or may be voice their dislike or hatred towards him.
__________________
Fémının Pro Wrestling
{FPW}
sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-24-2018, 07:13 AM
wrestlingmasters55's Avatar
wrestlingmasters55 wrestlingmasters55 is offline
Registered User
WCW TV Champion
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Montreal,canada
Posts: 1,767
wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinChan View Post
Yes, sir.


Nope.


Evidence? Any factual evidence?


Firstly, it's rare that I notice Roman Reigns' shirt worn in audience. Secondly, he's gonna be booed. Don't tell me that he isn't at fault.


So, that means similar things happen at each and every event?


Factual evidence to prove it?


Oh! GOD! If I keep my opinion, I'm hating Roman Reigns. Thanks a lot for telling me that I hate Roman Reigns. I didn't know. Because I don't believe in hating. Still, thanks for your partial judgement like always. At least, you're consistent being partial. I love consistency.


Nope. Cena gets a far positive reaction than Roman Reigns. The one who beats the heck outta Cena isn't cheered as heavily as the one who beats Roman Reigns.


Lol. Numerous moments, Roman Reigns is getting beaten and he gets "You Deserve It" chants. That's possible when hatred is involved.


How do you know?


How do you know? The audience reaction says otherwise.


How do you know? Have you conducted some survey in which people admit that they boo Reigns just for fun and still buy his merchandise? Or do you do similar things?


Or may be voice their dislike or hatred towards him.
I don't want to start a argument with you about this because it always end up getting out of control. I have my opinion about reigns and you have yours. We been through that many time and nobody wins. So let's just agree to disagree on this one. I've seen as much reigns haters wearing on reigns t-shirt on raw then actual fans of his.

I'm not saying that what I'm writing is 100% fact or true, it's just something I saw happening a lot while watching raw and going to live event. If you think you opinion is right and mine is wrong, good for you I won't argue with you, but give credit we're credit is due, Vince did what he wanted to do with reigns and he turned him into a top star even if there's a group of fans that did rebel against that push and used the dirt sheet to his advantage to make sure he gets what he wanted and That's another tweeter character that will make money for the company.
sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-24-2018, 10:29 AM
ShinChan's Avatar
ShinChan ShinChan is offline
Gone. For. Good.
ECW TV Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 2,361
ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wrestlingmasters55 View Post
I don't want to start a argument with you about this because it always end up getting out of control. I have my opinion about reigns and you have yours. We been through that many time and nobody wins. So let's just agree to disagree on this one. I've seen as much reigns haters wearing on reigns t-shirt on raw then actual fans of his.

I'm not saying that what I'm writing is 100% fact or true, it's just something I saw happening a lot while watching raw and going to live event. If you think you opinion is right and mine is wrong, good for you I won't argue with you, but give credit we're credit is due, Vince did what he wanted to do with reigns and he turned him into a top star even if there's a group of fans that did rebel against that push and used the dirt sheet to his advantage to make sure he gets what he wanted and That's another tweeter character that will make money for the company.
There's a big difference between argument and discussion. I'm trying to do the latter. Don't know about you. And there is no win or loss in discussion.

Oh. Yeah. I'll give Vince credit. For forcing a wrestler who wasn't good enough and still isn't good enough to be on the top. I'm really grateful to Vince that he did so. I respect his smartness as well. Pushing wrestlers not good enough like Roman Reigns, Jinder Mahal to the top must be too smart. And so I'll prefer being naive. But Vince is smart. Damn smart.

P.S - And please don't decide from my side that I hate Roman Reigns. I'll notify you once I find him enough to hate.
__________________
Fémının Pro Wrestling
{FPW}
sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-24-2018, 04:27 PM
wrestlingmasters55's Avatar
wrestlingmasters55 wrestlingmasters55 is offline
Registered User
WCW TV Champion
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Montreal,canada
Posts: 1,767
wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinChan View Post
There's a big difference between argument and discussion. I'm trying to do the latter. Don't know about you. And there is no win or loss in discussion.

Oh. Yeah. I'll give Vince credit. For forcing a wrestler who wasn't good enough and still isn't good enough to be on the top. I'm really grateful to Vince that he did so. I respect his smartness as well. Pushing wrestlers not good enough like Roman Reigns, Jinder Mahal to the top must be too smart. And so I'll prefer being naive. But Vince is smart. Damn smart.

P.S - And please don't decide from my side that I hate Roman Reigns. I'll notify you once I find him enough to hate.
So Let's start a discussion then, So in your eyes what makes a wrestler good enough to be on top?

For me, it's somebody that can have a interesting match every night without having to resort to have a lot of high spot to make the match interesting.

It's somebody that gets a reaction, good or bad, every time he show up

It's somebody that can elevate another superstar to the next level

It's somebody that can make money for the company

It's somebody that's able to go the extra miles for the company

That's what it take to be good enough to be on top in my eyes and Roman Reigns like him or not does all of that on a regular bases.

The guy hasn't had a bad match since mania last year and most of that match was Taker's fault.

He made Strowman a bigger star just by feuding with him

He in the top 3 as far as reaction goes if you don't count part timers (Cena,Bryan,Lesnar)

In merchandise sale alone, if you don't count part timers, he's been in the top 3 and something the top selling guy as far as merchandise is concern.

Also don't forget that he's been in the business for 8 years already and he's a second generation wrestlers and he's part of wrestling royalty.

So i don't know what more does it take for him to deserve a top spot in the company but i'm sure interested in finding out why you don't think he deserve a top spot.

P.S.: Vince didn't forced anything, he just took somebody that was super over and strap the rocket to his back, the whole narrative that Roman was forced down people throats was started by the dirt Sheet which lead to the backlash that Reigns got from the fans.

Last edited by wrestlingmasters55 : 03-24-2018 at 04:46 PM.
sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-24-2018, 06:18 PM
therockiswwf's Avatar
therockiswwf therockiswwf is online now
The voice of Michael Cole's headset
WWE Diva's Champion
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SD
Age: 23
Posts: 558
therockiswwf worked a dark match on ECW recently...therockiswwf worked a dark match on ECW recently...therockiswwf worked a dark match on ECW recently...therockiswwf worked a dark match on ECW recently...therockiswwf worked a dark match on ECW recently...therockiswwf worked a dark match on ECW recently...therockiswwf worked a dark match on ECW recently...therockiswwf worked a dark match on ECW recently...therockiswwf worked a dark match on ECW recently...therockiswwf worked a dark match on ECW recently...
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wrestlingmasters55 View Post
So Let's start a discussion then, So in your eyes what makes a wrestler good enough to be on top?
Quote:
It's somebody that can make money for the company.
This is the only answer.

Quote:
P.S.: Vince didn't forced anything, he just took somebody that was super over and strap the rocket to his back, the whole narrative that Roman was forced down people throats was started by the dirt Sheet which lead to the backlash that Reigns got from the fans.
Roman was cheered initially after the Shield. It was obvious they were going to push him strong. Still cheered. Then he started doing promos where he messed up a lot and had lackluster matches. He wasn't ready yet and people knew it. Still ignoring how Braun Strowman went through the same thing and yet he is cheered now. If your theory was correct, Strowman would never be cheered.
__________________
The Rock proposing to his Girlfriend
Rock: Will you marry me?
GF: I...
Rock: IT DOESN'T MATTER
sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 03-25-2018, 12:13 AM
ShinChan's Avatar
ShinChan ShinChan is offline
Gone. For. Good.
ECW TV Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 2,361
ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wrestlingmasters55 View Post
So Let's start a discussion then, So in your eyes what makes a wrestler good enough to be on top?
I ain't in WWE so I'll say from my own perspective. A wrestler who's good enough to be on top will make me watch him. Even if I may or may not be in mood to. Someone like Braun Strowman. I watch him each and every week. Regardless if I am in bad or good mood. I could skip the whole Raw but not skip seeing Braun Strowman. And no, he isn't the best wrestler. He won't deliver classics. Each and every time. But I'm always interested to know what's up with him. His match ups are interesting, promos are intriguing and nowhere near bad. He's damn over. Plus, he has improved heaps since his arrival. Now that's a guy good enough to be on the top. Not just because I love him. But because of his talent. A top guy should make me invest in him via promos or matches. Roman's matches are good. That's it. And let's not even start about promos.

Quote:
For me, it's somebody that can have a interesting match every night without having to resort to have a lot of high spot to make the match interesting.
I don't think that Roman Reigns has interesting matches anymore. They don't make me want to watch him anymore.

Quote:
It's somebody that gets a reaction, good or bad, every time he show up
True. But bad for someone you would like others to cheer?

Quote:
It's somebody that can elevate another superstar to the next level
True. Who did Roman Reigns elevate? Braun Strowman? Braun himself and his booking did it. Reigns defeated him in their first match. Don't tell me that a monster is elevated in the first match via a defeat.

Quote:
It's somebody that can make money for the company
You're right.

Quote:
It's somebody that's able to go the extra miles for the company
Right. Wellness Policy Violation will do it, right?

Quote:
That's what it take to be good enough to be on top in my eyes and Roman Reigns like him or not does all of that on a regular bases.
Nope. I used to like him. Still do somewhat. But I am not interested anymore.

Quote:
The guy hasn't had a bad match since mania last year and most of that match was Taker's fault.
Bad match? How about a great match? None. I'm taking just singles matches.

Quote:
He made Strowman a bigger star just by feuding with him
Lol. No. Strowman and his booking did it.

Quote:
He in the top 3 as far as reaction goes if you don't count part timers (Cena,Bryan,Lesnar)
A hero getting booed?

Quote:
In merchandise sale alone, if you don't count part timers, he's been in the top 3 and something the top selling guy as far as merchandise is concern.
Good for him.

Quote:
Also don't forget that he's been in the business for 8 years already
So?

Quote:
and he's a second generation wrestlers and he's part of wrestling royalty.
So?

Quote:
So i don't know what more does it take for him to deserve a top spot in the company but i'm sure interested in finding out why you don't think he deserve a top spot.
Told you.

Quote:
P.S.: Vince didn't forced anything,
Oh dear. He did. Surely. He did. Ask Reigns or Jinder.

Quote:
he just took somebody that was super over and strap the rocket to his back,
Super over? Before Royal Rumble, while Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins were having one of the best feuds. And what was Roman doing? Well, just defeating Randy Orton.

Quote:
the whole narrative that Roman was forced down people throats was started by the dirt Sheet which lead to the backlash that Reigns got from the fans.
Nope. Not everyone reads these sites. He was forced. And I can say it without reading any site. It was pretty evident to anyone. Who's not partial.
__________________
Fémının Pro Wrestling
{FPW}
sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-25-2018, 05:04 AM
wrestlingmasters55's Avatar
wrestlingmasters55 wrestlingmasters55 is offline
Registered User
WCW TV Champion
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Montreal,canada
Posts: 1,767
wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...wrestlingmasters55 scored a win over Santino Marella...
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinChan View Post
I ain't in WWE so I'll say from my own perspective. A wrestler who's good enough to be on top will make me watch him. Even if I may or may not be in mood to. Someone like Braun Strowman. I watch him each and every week. Regardless if I am in bad or good mood. I could skip the whole Raw but not skip seeing Braun Strowman. And no, he isn't the best wrestler. He won't deliver classics. Each and every time. But I'm always interested to know what's up with him. His match ups are interesting, promos are intriguing and nowhere near bad. He's damn over. Plus, he has improved heaps since his arrival. Now that's a guy good enough to be on the top. Not just because I love him. But because of his talent. A top guy should make me invest in him via promos or matches. Roman's matches are good. That's it. And let's not even start about promos.


I don't think that Roman Reigns has interesting matches anymore. They don't make me want to watch him anymore.


True. But bad for someone you would like others to cheer?


True. Who did Roman Reigns elevate? Braun Strowman? Braun himself and his booking did it. Reigns defeated him in their first match. Don't tell me that a monster is elevated in the first match via a defeat.


You're right.


Right. Wellness Policy Violation will do it, right?


Nope. I used to like him. Still do somewhat. But I am not interested anymore.


Bad match? How about a great match? None. I'm taking just singles matches.


Lol. No. Strowman and his booking did it.


A hero getting booed?


Good for him.


So?


So?


Told you.


Oh dear. He did. Surely. He did. Ask Reigns or Jinder.


Super over? Before Royal Rumble, while Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins were having one of the best feuds. And what was Roman doing? Well, just defeating Randy Orton.


Nope. Not everyone reads these sites. He was forced. And I can say it without reading any site. It was pretty evident to anyone. Who's not partial.
Thanks for the response, i didn't want to reply point by point but here a few things I have to disagree with you on.

First, I'm happy to see that you think that what it takes to make it on top is somebody that make you watch. That good but if everybody was doing the same thing, WWE wouldn't be successful. The fact is look at the ratings, why is it that the hour reigns is on his always the highest hour in the ratings. Why is clips on YouTube are always the more viewed. You might not be interested by him but their a lot more fans that are interested in watching him

Do you remember where strowman was before his feud with Reigns? Absolutely nowhere. They where booking him the same way they did this year, the difference is, that they put him against reigns and had a great feud during the summer which elevate strowman from a guy that wasn't getting a lot of fanfare to one of the most over guy in the company. That how he elevated strowman.

Thirdly, reigns as had some of the best matches of his career this year, his feud with strowman alone was one of the most entertaining feud of the year for his pure destruction. The cena match was a little long but still entertaining. He had great matches with Joe & Finn. Even the taker match was pretty good considering how much taker wasn't in shape for the match. The point I'm making is for me, the guy as grown as a performer in the last few year even with all the bad booking even through some fans are not saying it,

As far as saying that the dirt sheet didn't have anything to do with fans turning on him, I beg to differ on this. The guy was super over coming out of the shield splitting up in fact, if you remember, he was the more over out of the 2 that they tried to push as a babyface. So why wouldn't Vince go with the most popular guy?

Fans, especially smart fans (which are the one that turned on reigns), read the newsletters, read what on wrestling sites like this one and believe what Meltzer write like it's the gospel. So when Meltzer goes on his newsletter and write that reigns is Vince's guy and they will put the rocket on his back instead of their guy, which at the time was Daniel Bryan, then they will turned on him.

Like somebody said before, reigns could have a 5 star match every night and fans would still boo him. For certains fans, reigns doesn't deserve his spot no matter what he does and that a shame because he worked real hard for that spot but because he got stuck getting push while Bryan was still wrestling.

I'm predicting the same thing will happen to strowman when he will win the universal title and stays on top for a while.
sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-25-2018, 05:51 AM
ShinChan's Avatar
ShinChan ShinChan is offline
Gone. For. Good.
ECW TV Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 2,361
ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...ShinChan is getting some looks on Smackdown...
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wrestlingmasters55 View Post
Thanks for the response, i didn't want to reply point by point but here a few things I have to disagree with you on.
You're welcome.

Quote:
First, I'm happy to see that you think that what it takes to make it on top is somebody that make you watch. That good but if everybody was doing the same thing, WWE wouldn't be successful.
Like I said, I'm speaking on MY behalf. I watch it to be entertained. Not to think about how WWE will gain profits. That is their work.

Quote:
The fact is look at the ratings, why is it that the hour reigns is on his always the highest hour in the ratings. Why is clips on YouTube are always the more viewed. You might not be interested by him but their a lot more fans that are interested in watching him
I never disagreed with this.

Quote:
Do you remember where strowman was before his feud with Reigns?
Squashing jobbers each Raw.

Quote:
Absolutely nowhere.
Nope. After the split from Wyatt Family, he actually started from the bottom. Unlike Roman Reigns.

Quote:
They where booking him the same way they did this year, the difference is, that they put him against reigns and had a great feud during the summer which elevate strowman from a guy that wasn't getting a lot of fanfare to one of the most over guy in the company. That how he elevated strowman.
Strowman got over. Due to multiple reasons. His monster look plus believable booking. He was BOOKED perfectly. Not just because he faced Roman Reigns. Sheamus, Rusev etc also faced Roman Reigns. None were elevated. Instead, it was opposite.

Quote:
Thirdly, reigns as had some of the best matches of his career this year,
Good ones. But if this is his best, then I'll prefer not seeing.

Quote:
his feud with strowman alone was one of the most entertaining feud of the year for his pure destruction.
Because his booking was good. Unlike now. Where he's calling out Brock as Vince's guy in total irony.

Quote:
The cena match was a little long but still entertaining.
Really? Nope. He got beaten in promo battles every week and then won an underwhelming match.

Quote:
He had great matches with Joe & Finn. Even the taker match was pretty good considering how much taker wasn't in shape for the match. The point I'm making is for me, the guy as grown as a performer in the last few year even with all the bad booking even through some fans are not saying it
He has grown. He has improved. But a top guy should give a better promo. If not then please give Cesaro the top spot as well.

Quote:
As far as saying that the dirt sheet didn't have anything to do with fans turning on him, I beg to differ on this.
Your prerogative.

Quote:
The guy was super over coming out of the shield splitting up in fact, if you remember, he was the more over out of the 2 that they tried to push as a babyface. So why wouldn't Vince go with the most popular guy?
Really? Like I said earlier, Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins were having one of the best feuds of all time. And Roman Reigns? He was just there. Super over? Yeah. Dean was. And Vince pushed Roman Reigns. We all know why. Don't tell me that he was the top merchandise seller when Vince decided to push him.

Quote:
Fans, especially smart fans (which are the one that turned on reigns), read the newsletters, read what on wrestling sites like this one and believe what Meltzer write like it's the gospel. So when Meltzer goes on his newsletter and write that reigns is Vince's guy and they will put the rocket on his back instead of their guy, which at the time was Daniel Bryan, then they will turned on him.
Not everyone who turned on him reads Meltzer. It was pretty evident that even without Meltzer telling, that he was being over pushed for a spot he wasn't ready. And still isn't.

Quote:
Like somebody said before, reigns could have a 5 star match every night and fans would still boo him. For certains fans, reigns doesn't deserve his spot no matter what he does and that a shame because he worked real hard for that spot but because he got stuck getting push while Bryan was still wrestling.
Everyone works hard. Roman Reigns isn't someone different to work hard. For some reason, he doesn't belong on the spot. Because this is his 4th consecutive Wrestlemania main event and he still hasn't made me feel like he belongs. Lame promos aren't doing any good.

Quote:
I'm predicting the same thing will happen to strowman when he will win the universal title and stays on top for a while.
Of course. You'll predict so. While totally ignoring the difference between Roman and Braun. A wrestler over pushed. And a wrestler's organic rise.
__________________
Fémının Pro Wrestling
{FPW}
sendpm.gif Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:33 PM.

monitoring_string = "afb8e5d7348ab9e99f73cba908f10802"
Contact Us - Clear Cookies - Lost Password - WrestleZone Forums - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Top - AdChoices