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Old 07-15-2015, 01:52 AM
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I think I'm becoming one of those guys that complain about everything
For what it's worth, I'll support ranting on "economic injustice" over "gender inequality in the West" any day.
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:09 AM
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For what it's worth, I'll support ranting on "economic injustice" over "gender inequality in the West" any day.
Thank you! I've already started preparing my lines. Here's a sample:
"USA; present day: In a country where unmatched freedom of expression and pseudo self esteem have resulted in people using expletives and superlatives in every sentence to express their view; unmatched capitalism and strong-arm tactics have entrenched a vicious circle of mal-expenditure and complete disregard for the deprivation suffered by the rest of the world..." heheheheh
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:16 AM
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America spending money on exploring the solar system is certainly not where any anger should be aimed.
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:59 AM
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It's not anger, it's just that... why not use the money to help people that don't have prope, clothing, shelter, two square meals a day, medical facilities (after disease), means to protect them from the diseases, make the streets safer for women and the aged... you know, all these problems people are suffering from in the present day, in our own planet, and one common reason that is attributed is that there is insufficient money to eradicate all these problems at a faster pace than the current rate... So why not solve these problems as far as possible, and then spend those many millions of dollars as well as an enormity of resources to send spacecrafts to far away planets that we have nothing to gain or lose from... This applies to my country too, not just the USA. The whole space-exploration thing is also a status-symbol, to show others how "ahead" we are, while ignoring more important problems that exist right here.

P.S. I am aware that this will be seen as another one of my "naive" posts that are away from the 'reality' or what has been happening, but the reason behind these posts is because there is something wrong with the current scenario. We have a bigger photo of Pluto now, and apparently we now know that it is more brown than grey, but I would gladly accept the absence of this knowledge in exchange for thousands of people around us getting their basic requirements.
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Old 07-15-2015, 10:16 AM
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NASA's budget is minuscule compared to the defense budget. If you are so worried about helping people, you should maybe start clamoring about why the U.S. needs to spend nearly 20% of federal spending alone on military defense.



In fact, NASA's budget has plummeted from 4.4% of the federal budget back in the 60's to about 0.5% of the budget today.

But yeah, let's continue to ignore the elephant in the room and bitch about why NASA funding is a waste of money.
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Old 07-15-2015, 10:34 AM
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Yeah, let's continue to ignore that America's enemies and rivals range from the ISIS in the middle-east, to the Taliban and its allies in the subcontinent, from Russia that wants to kick its a**, to Cuba right beside it and North Korea threatening to nuke it every once in a while from its west. Let's also continue to ignore that whenever some terrorist group spreads its wings a little too far, countries look helplessly towards the USA for aid. When monsters like Saddam or Osama seem unbeatable, America gets the job done. Let's also ignore that America, by virtue of its defence expenditures and influence, have been able to contain and prevent wars of large scale, including the India-Pakistan war from becoming a nuclear warfare, and finally, let's ignore countries like Israel and South Korea whose safety has been ensured by America for a long time.

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Old 07-15-2015, 10:39 AM
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The U.S. has no business in the affairs of the Middle East. ISIS are only our "enemy" because we make them our enemy, by sticking our nose in affairs we have no justifiable reason for interjecting in.

If Sunni's and Shiite's want to slaughter one another, that's their problem. Like most countries ravaged by a state-sponsored monotheistic religion that claims to be the answer, they need to go through an era of needless bloodshed before they realize they are killing one another over nothing. Just like most of Europe already did hundreds of years ago, or Ireland most recently.

If you think the U.S. has so many enemies that it actually justifies the size of our "defense" budget, maybe you ought to be thinking about why we have that many enemies to begin with. I promise you, that bullshit you hear about them "hating freedom" has nothing to do with it. The idea the U.S. needs to play world police does. And the "defense" budget fuels that.

Complaining about the NASA budget with regard to the welfare of Peoples within the U.S. is like complaining about the gas mileage you get out of your Hummer that you drive through the suburbs when you could just buy a Ford Focus.
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Old 07-15-2015, 10:57 AM
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The U.S. has no business in the affairs of the Middle East. ISIS are only our "enemy" because we make them our enemy, by sticking our nose in affairs we have no justifiable reason for interjecting in.

If Sunni's and Shiite's want to slaughter one another, that's their problem.
These lines sum up how our thoughts and beliefs are in total contrast with each other. I have no interest in arguing with someone going by the ideology of "Others may be suffering, my friends may be in danger... but as long as it is not harming me, I don't care."
Oh and by the way, the ISIS is not differentiating between Sunnis and Shias alone. If you are not with them, then by default you are against them.

Now I can start quoting your other sentences one by one and pointing out flaws in them too, like facts having more weightage than your promise, or myself talking about the whole world and not just USA, but it's best if we drop it because we will never arrive to a meaningful conclusion anyway.

Congratulations on seeing the new photo of Pluto. Enjoy!
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Old 07-15-2015, 11:01 AM
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Against the rather limited NASA budget but for the military overspending of the US?

What a strange combination.

NASA's work in exploration is pioneering and educational. The space programmes in the likes of India and China are definitely far more like status symbols though as they are recreating the successes of others.
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