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Old 07-05-2017, 12:12 AM
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The rumour mills are turning fast and furious (no pun intended) on a reversal of the WWE's main event plans for RAW.

As we all know the plan was basically set in stone for the year ahead. Lesnar was going to hold the title on the way to Wrestlemania 34 in New Orleans where he would drop it to Roman Reigns. On the way, he would meet Samoa Joe, Finn Balor, Bray Wyatt, Seth Rollins and maybe Braun Strowman at various PPV's. All the matches were scheduled to be a one and done.

Meltzer has been reporting in the last week though that those plans are being scrapped. Now it's planned for Reigns to meet Lesnar at Summerslam, where Lesnar will drop the strap. There are no plans for Balor to meet Lesnar at all and most likely you can throw Wyatt and Rollins into that mix as well.

It's being presumed that this is being done to combat the low ratings that RAW has been receiving with the title not there to be defended. So it would seem that the WWE is maybe worried about the historic low ratings the show has been getting.

But if Lesnar does drop the strap to Reigns, what becomes the the rematch clauses that Balor and Rollins still hold. Both got injured and had to vacate the title and to my memory they haven't had their rematches yet. Now this might free up someone like Rollins or even Balor to go after the IC title that Miz holds, but the main event scene on RAW is a disaster if it just leaves Wyatt for Reigns.

I was against Lesnar getting the title to begin with as we've been down this road before, but it's somehow worse this time around, so I'm glad if that's what they are going to do. It will all depend on how they book everyone if Reigns does get the title back. Reigns holding the title again isn't something I'm thrilled about as I would love to see it on Samoa Joe for awhile.

Thoughts on this if it is what is going to happen?
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Old 07-05-2017, 12:34 AM
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Winds Of change made me remember Bad News Barrett!

The change of plans is actually good for everyone involved. If there was no change, the likes of Braun Strowman, Finn Bálor, Seth Rollins and Samoa Joe would've been filler opponents although being of high potential in the main event scene. So it's very good if it's actually true.
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Old 07-05-2017, 12:53 AM
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:47 AM
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I wouldn't get my hopes up just yet. Just because Roman/Brock is happening at Summerslam doesn't necessarily mean it won't happen at Mania with Roman defending and Brock challenging, because "THAT'S OUR MAIN EVENT AND WE'RE STICKIN TO IT!" Giving Lesnar the title was a mistake and I still don't see why they thought it was a good idea in the first place after the exact same thing happened the first time around. If I'm not mistaken, last time Lesnar had the strap the ratings went down the shitter pretty much just like they've done in his second reign.

To me, it doesn't really matter. Having the champion on the show doesn't make Raw that much more enjoyable anyways in my opinion, but it's obviously a draw to the casuals which comes as a complete shock to me. I mean, who would have thought that having the top prize in your company absent for months on end would have negative affects...?
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Old 07-05-2017, 08:49 AM
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The smart money seems to be a Cena vs. Reigns Main Event at WM34 which means we will, once again, get a WM that features a part time wrestler. Granted it was only recently Cena reached the "part time" status but it still shows WWE's reliance of part time guys and not the guys from their main roster.

In that sense I don't really see the "winds of change" at all.
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Old 07-05-2017, 10:15 AM
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I think this is smart. While I do like Reigns to a certain point, I wouldn't be too thrilled with a long title reign for him. But the biggest thing would be that the title is continuously on Raw every week, which is exactly how it should be, and it is so much more realistic to believe that Rollins, Wyatt, Balor, Joe or anybody else could actually become champion. I would prefer for Strowman to be the one to dethrone Lesnar as I think he truly deserves it, although I imagine the reaction would be greater for him if he later dethroned Reigns. Either way, I do think that it's already about damn time for the Universal Championship to be back on Raw.

BUT, this doesn't mean that the WrestleMania 34 main event won't be Reigns vs. Lesnar. In fact, I think it would be a high possibility. WWE may have completely forgotten about literally everybody's rematch clauses, but when it suits them, they'll use it. I can see them using it here for Lesnar if Reigns remains the champion. And in which case, I still don't think it makes WrestleMania any more appealing. But we will have to wait for that. The plan could definitely change again like it could be doing here.

The other thing to remember here is that, if this is to somehow fix the ratings troubles, it doesn't mean that bringing the title back onto the show will automatically help. WWE has a lot of work to do to fix a lot of the guys on Raw because right now, I don't know if I care about ANYBODY on the damn show other than Strowman. I know that is just my opinion, but I think others share it too. Bringing the title back will only be a start to fix the issues that WWE really has to commit to. But if this is the way to go about it, I'm definitely up for it. I am anyway. The title needs to come back regardless as to what motive WWE has.

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Old 07-05-2017, 10:40 AM
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When you have a wrestling program that's set up with the format of something like Raw, SmackDown Live or TNA/Impact/GFW, then you need your champions to show up and be featured on a regular basis. That's especially true of the person holding your main event championship because it's supposed to be THE title that everyone wants. It can be hard to remain invested in the main event scene when there isn't a main event title to be the centerpiece due the champion being off TV for 10-12 weeks at a time. I knew this would be the case when Brock Lesnar won the WWE Championship from John Cena at SummerSlam 2014 and I knew it'd be the case when Lesnar took the title from Goldberg, who I cared about even less.

If they stuck with the plan to keep the title on Lesnar until WrestleMania next year, the very best that we could hope for would be that the ones who challenged Lesnar before Reigns weren't made to look like chumps. Booking Lesnar to be this juggernaut who tears through modern stars while only being given tough challenges by Attitude Era stars is what I've disliked about the use of Lesnar and I don't know how much of that is simply him not wanting to give guys modern guys too much of a rub, if he's just being lazy, if it's simply what Vince wants or if it's some combination of all of them.

Given the option, I'd rather they just pulled the trigger on letting Reigns win the title from Lesnar at SummerSlam as I simply don't have enough faith in Vince not making Balor, Rollins, Wyatt and Strowman look bad against Lesnar. As for a rematch, there doesn't necessarily have to be one but I'm certain there will be so that Reigns gets one more big opportunity to shine against the Beast. He could get his rematch at Survivor Series, they could have Lesnar invoke his rematch for WrestleMania next year while someone from SmackDown wins the Royal Rumble to face the WWE Champion, they could go the unnecessary route of having Lesnar compete in and win the Royal Rumble next year to earn another shot.

I have to say that Roman Reigns has been growing on me the past several weeks. He's much more relaxed and confident on the mic, he has a swagger about him that simply wasn't there 6 months ago. He's no longer trying to be funny or charming, he's no longer trying to play the good guy to the crowd, it just seems like he's embraced the "hate" he gets and almost relishes it. It's not a full blown heel turn, but Reigns at least acting like he doesn't give a damn of they cheer or boo him, and not going into some placating speech about loving the energy and freedom of expression the way John Cena does, is a much more natural fit for Reigns than trying to be a nice guy and taking one of Undertaker's catchphrases, or forcibly at that, only helps.
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Seems kind of absurd from a kayfabe point of view that Reigns could go so long without a title shot. Yes, Lesnar doesn't defend that often but Reigns continues to win his singles matches and everyone knows that he is the chosen one. How long is Braun supposed to be a distraction until Reigns moves up to a title match?

So it never made sense for Roman to have to wait so long. The SummerSlam rumor before the Mania rumor for Brock and Roman turned out to be true (I think) in the end. Also, until Lesnar signs a new contract, I doubt he will be put in what is a clear end of the show title match.
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Reigns holding the title again isn't something I'm thrilled about as I would love to see it on Samoa Joe for awhile.
Reports also said that they are thrilled with Joe and how well he handled whole Lesnar feud so he would be there at least as main event title challenger. So maybe you get that wish soon Navi.

People always scold WWE. Think before Joe won that fatal 5 way we even had theme here how Joe was mishandled. And look at things now, Lesnar would maybe be out of belt soon and Joe is on the rise.

And its a good thing if it happens. We should have fighting Champion that is there every week, if they want Reigns as no1 guy after Cena he should have that belt and its much better then to book him as "underdog" that loses from Strowman(even if Strowman maybe needs it more now) and God knows who else until he would win it at Wrestlemania. And I am much more excited at prospect of Cena/Reigns if it happens at Wrestlemania instead of original plan to wait Lesnar/Reigns again.

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Old 07-05-2017, 11:28 AM
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Reports also said that they are thrilled with Joe and how well he handled whole Lesnar feud so he would be there at least as main event title challenger. So maybe you get that wish soon Navi.

People always scold WWE. Think before Joe won that fatal 5 way we even had theme here how Joe was mishandled. And look at things now, Lesnar would maybe be out of belt soon and Joe is on the rise.

And its a good thing if it happens. We should have fighting Champion that is there every week, if they want Reigns as no1 guy after Cena he should have that belt and its much better then to book him as "underdog" that loses from Strowman(even if Strowman maybe needs it more now) and God knows who else until he would win it at Wrestlemania. And I am much more excited at prospect of Cena/Reigns if it happens at Wrestlemania instead of original plan to wait Lesnar/Reigns again.
Samoa Joe has really come into his own with this Lesnar feud and I agree it's the best thing they could have done was making him the first contender.

He would also be a great fighting champion. The guy can go in the ring and is stellar on the mic. His "I don't give a shit, let me at the guy" works for me. He legit looks like he would tear anyone's head off.

One thing that does bother me though is even though they want Reigns to be the top guy, he doesn't necessary have to hold the title. If you look at John Cena, he maybe a 16 time world champion, but he doesn't hold the belt all the time. Cena is a natural born leader, Reigns is not at that level. I doubt anyone will ever be.
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