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Agree for the most part except for Miz/Cena and your final point. I really like where Miz/Cena is going, I don't think it's gonna get any more personal than Miz saying Cena has stunted his career. I do though think they need to add an extra layer for Nikki and Maryse so they actually have a reason for being in the match (especially considering Maryse hasn't wrestled in... 5 years?)
I'm enjoying this as well, which is a big surprise to me. When I first read that this match was rumored to be going down, I was expecting some "sports entertainment" themed thing that's tongue in cheek where Cena & Nikki ultimately make Miz & Maryse look like a couple of inept fools. Thankfully, they're not going in that direction and they're treating it like a serious, personal feud between them.

I agree that Nikki & Maryse could use an additional layer, but the problem is that neither of them are particularly good on the mic. Maryse is better than she used to be, due in no small part to the fact that her accent isn't as thick as it once was and she's gotten an overall better hang on English, while Nikki's personality is somewhat bland. She's ultimately this smokin' hot brunette with killer curves who wears tube tops and booty shorts to wrestle in, not that there's anything wrong with that mind you, but neither of these two ladies have ever really displayed the sort of promo skills needed to really propel their interests in this feud beyond the "if you mess with my man, you mess with me" level.

The fact that they keep bringing up Cena not proposing to Nikki makes me think that Cena already has in real life but that they're going to play the story out to where Cena "proposes" to her in the ring after they win their match. It'd be appropriate if the rumors that this will be Nikki's last match are true.
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Love the card this year with all thoses markee matches on the card, it does make it look like a strong mania. We can forget that outside of all the matches that was listed on the last post, you probably will get a cruiserweight title match between neville and austin aries and some sort of multi person match either a cruiserweight ladder match for the number 1 contendership or a raw money in the bank match. And from what I've read, the shaq vs big show match hasn't been totally scrapped yet so we got that the look foward to.

Finally, I doubt they would put the battle royal on the pre show, last year, it prove to ne a really good buffer match between some of the big matches on the main card that if you put it on the pre show would that would give that role to the raw tag and wo, en's championship matches. You need to have at less one buffer match on the card to seperate some of the big matches at the end of the card and I see the battle royal serve this role again this year.
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UNIVERSAL TITLE - Goldberg (c) vs Brock Lesnar- Won't go longer than 10 minutes. Likely will get booed out the building. Brock Lesnar wins and gets cocky and calls another challenge. Finn Bálor returns at WrestleMania for for his rematch. Bálor beats Lesnar for the Universal Title likely will help from Goldberg. WrestleMania ends with Goldberg raising new Universal Champ Finn Bálor's hand up.

WWE TITLE - Bray Wyatt (c) vs Randy Orton (vs. AJ Styles)- These two put on a clinic but unfortunately Orton defeats Wyatt to win his 13th World Title. However, If AJ Styles is added I expect him to become a 2x Champ in a slow start to a babyface run.

US TITLE - Chris Jericho (c) vs Kevin Owens- Kevin Owens showcases his dominant side and and beats Jericho and takes him out in one of the best matches of the night.

RAW WOMENS TITLE - Bayley (c) vs Sasha vs Charlotte- Bayley retains in a pretty good one, and Sasha turns heel afterwards.

SD WOMENS TITLE - Alexa (c) vs Smackdown Roster- Will be the most forgettable match. Remember the last time they did this at WrestleMania XXX? Didn't go to well. Will likely be on the Kickoff Show. Other competitors will likely be Tamina, Eva, Carmella, Natalya, Becky, Mickie.

ANDRE THE GIANT BATTLE ROYAL- Braun Strowman wins after last eliminating The Big Show, who nods his approval to Strowman as sort of a passing of the torch. Wouldn't surprise me if Hogan returned in this match as a surprise entrant.

The Undertaker vs Roman Reigns- The match everybody will be talking about after WrestleMania (this Cena's Proposal, Sasha's heel turn,the return of Hulk Hogan,and Bálor shockingly winning the Universal Title.) Roman Reigns turns heel in the match by the way he brutally beats Taker down to defeat and retire The Deadman.

PINFALL OR SUBMISSION ONLY- Shane McMahon vs AJ Styles- Likely a stipulation where AJ gets added to the SmackDown Main Event if he wins. AJ defeats Shane in a clash full of heavy spots.

SETH ROLLINS CALLS OUT TRIPLE H- Seth Rollins calls out Triple H for a match but falls short to "The Game."

IC TITLE NO HOLDS BARRED - Dean Ambrose (c) vs Baron Corbin- Baron Corbin defeats Dean Ambrose to win his first title in WWE and go 2-0 at WrestleMania.

CRUISERWEIGHT TITLE - Neville (c) vs Austin Aries- Match Of The Night?! Austin Aries defeats Neville to win the Cruiserweight Championship

MIXED TAG MATCH - John Cena/Nikki vs The Miz/Maryse- Match could surprise us and end up being one of the best matches on the entire card. Mainly including the evolution of 3/4 performers over the last few years. Who knows? Maryse could still have it. Expect John Cena to propose to Nicki after they win in one of the most talked about Mania moments.

SD TAG TITLES - American Alpha vs The Usos- Second year in a row, Uso's work the pre-show and this year they fall to American Alpha. Who retains on the Grandest Stage.

RAW TAG TITLES - Gallows/Anderson vs Enzo/Cass vs Cesaro/Sheamus- Enzo/Cass gets their moment by defeating Gallows and Anderson to become new champs on the kickoff show.

Sami Zayn vs. Samoa Joe- Fourth and final Kickoff Show match. A better match than the one at Fastlane. This one sees
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UNIVERSAL TITLE - Goldberg (c) vs Brock Lesnar- Won't go longer than 10 minutes. Likely will get booed out the building. Brock Lesnar wins and gets cocky and calls another challenge. Finn Bálor returns at WrestleMania for for his rematch. Bálor beats Lesnar for the Universal Title likely will help from Goldberg. WrestleMania ends with Goldberg raising new Universal Champ Finn Bálor's hand up.

WWE TITLE - Bray Wyatt (c) vs Randy Orton (vs. AJ Styles)- These two put on a clinic but unfortunately Orton defeats Wyatt to win his 13th World Title. However, If AJ Styles is added I expect him to become a 2x Champ in a slow start to a babyface run.

US TITLE - Chris Jericho (c) vs Kevin Owens- Kevin Owens showcases his dominant side and and beats Jericho and takes him out in one of the best matches of the night.

RAW WOMENS TITLE - Bayley (c) vs Sasha vs Charlotte- Bayley retains in a pretty good one, and Sasha turns heel afterwards.

SD WOMENS TITLE - Alexa (c) vs Smackdown Roster- Will be the most forgettable match. Remember the last time they did this at WrestleMania XXX? Didn't go to well. Will likely be on the Kickoff Show. Other competitors will likely be Tamina, Eva, Carmella, Natalya, Becky, Mickie.

ANDRE THE GIANT BATTLE ROYAL- Braun Strowman wins after last eliminating The Big Show, who nods his approval to Strowman as sort of a passing of the torch. Wouldn't surprise me if Hogan returned in this match as a surprise entrant.

The Undertaker vs Roman Reigns- The match everybody will be talking about after WrestleMania (this Cena's Proposal, Sasha's heel turn,the return of Hulk Hogan,and Bálor shockingly winning the Universal Title.) Roman Reigns turns heel in the match by the way he brutally beats Taker down to defeat and retire The Deadman.

PINFALL OR SUBMISSION ONLY- Shane McMahon vs AJ Styles- Likely a stipulation where AJ gets added to the SmackDown Main Event if he wins. AJ defeats Shane in a clash full of heavy spots.

SETH ROLLINS CALLS OUT TRIPLE H- Seth Rollins calls out Triple H for a match but falls short to "The Game."

IC TITLE NO HOLDS BARRED - Dean Ambrose (c) vs Baron Corbin- Baron Corbin defeats Dean Ambrose to win his first title in WWE and go 2-0 at WrestleMania.

CRUISERWEIGHT TITLE - Neville (c) vs Austin Aries- Match Of The Night?! Austin Aries defeats Neville to win the Cruiserweight Championship

MIXED TAG MATCH - John Cena/Nikki vs The Miz/Maryse- Match could surprise us and end up being one of the best matches on the entire card. Mainly including the evolution of 3/4 performers over the last few years. Who knows? Maryse could still have it. Expect John Cena to propose to Nicki after they win in one of the most talked about Mania moments.

SD TAG TITLES - American Alpha vs The Usos- Second year in a row, Uso's work the pre-show and this year they fall to American Alpha. Who retains on the Grandest Stage.

RAW TAG TITLES - Gallows/Anderson vs Enzo/Cass vs Cesaro/Sheamus- Enzo/Cass gets their moment by defeating Gallows and Anderson to become new champs on the kickoff show.

Sami Zayn vs. Samoa Joe- Fourth and final Kickoff Show match. A better match than the one at Fastlane. This one sees
I'd do you one better, screw Goldberg helping Balor. If it happens, have Styles, Gallows and Anderson help him win.
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UNIVERSAL TITLE - Goldberg (c) vs Brock Lesnar- Won't go longer than 10 minutes. Likely will get booed out the building. Brock Lesnar wins and gets cocky and calls another challenge. Finn Bálor returns at WrestleMania for for his rematch. Bálor beats Lesnar for the Universal Title likely will help from Goldberg. WrestleMania ends with Goldberg raising new Universal Champ Finn Bálor's hand up.

WWE TITLE - Bray Wyatt (c) vs Randy Orton (vs. AJ Styles)- These two put on a clinic but unfortunately Orton defeats Wyatt to win his 13th World Title. However, If AJ Styles is added I expect him to become a 2x Champ in a slow start to a babyface run.

US TITLE - Chris Jericho (c) vs Kevin Owens- Kevin Owens showcases his dominant side and and beats Jericho and takes him out in one of the best matches of the night.

RAW WOMENS TITLE - Bayley (c) vs Sasha vs Charlotte- Bayley retains in a pretty good one, and Sasha turns heel afterwards.

SD WOMENS TITLE - Alexa (c) vs Smackdown Roster- Will be the most forgettable match. Remember the last time they did this at WrestleMania XXX? Didn't go to well. Will likely be on the Kickoff Show. Other competitors will likely be Tamina, Eva, Carmella, Natalya, Becky, Mickie.

ANDRE THE GIANT BATTLE ROYAL- Braun Strowman wins after last eliminating The Big Show, who nods his approval to Strowman as sort of a passing of the torch. Wouldn't surprise me if Hogan returned in this match as a surprise entrant.

The Undertaker vs Roman Reigns- The match everybody will be talking about after WrestleMania (this Cena's Proposal, Sasha's heel turn,the return of Hulk Hogan,and Bálor shockingly winning the Universal Title.) Roman Reigns turns heel in the match by the way he brutally beats Taker down to defeat and retire The Deadman.

PINFALL OR SUBMISSION ONLY- Shane McMahon vs AJ Styles- Likely a stipulation where AJ gets added to the SmackDown Main Event if he wins. AJ defeats Shane in a clash full of heavy spots.

SETH ROLLINS CALLS OUT TRIPLE H- Seth Rollins calls out Triple H for a match but falls short to "The Game."

IC TITLE NO HOLDS BARRED - Dean Ambrose (c) vs Baron Corbin- Baron Corbin defeats Dean Ambrose to win his first title in WWE and go 2-0 at WrestleMania.

CRUISERWEIGHT TITLE - Neville (c) vs Austin Aries- Match Of The Night?! Austin Aries defeats Neville to win the Cruiserweight Championship

MIXED TAG MATCH - John Cena/Nikki vs The Miz/Maryse- Match could surprise us and end up being one of the best matches on the entire card. Mainly including the evolution of 3/4 performers over the last few years. Who knows? Maryse could still have it. Expect John Cena to propose to Nicki after they win in one of the most talked about Mania moments.

SD TAG TITLES - American Alpha vs The Usos- Second year in a row, Uso's work the pre-show and this year they fall to American Alpha. Who retains on the Grandest Stage.

RAW TAG TITLES - Gallows/Anderson vs Enzo/Cass vs Cesaro/Sheamus- Enzo/Cass gets their moment by defeating Gallows and Anderson to become new champs on the kickoff show.

Sami Zayn vs. Samoa Joe- Fourth and final Kickoff Show match. A better match than the one at Fastlane. This one sees
I like you idea for the main event, because I think if you want bŕlor to be establish as a main event babyface, you need to have him get the rub from a big name and it doesn't get bigger then goldberg right now, plus it makes lesnar losing the title to bŕlor believable because in a one on one setting, bŕlor isn't a believable threat to lesnar. This become the same scenerio as what they did with lesnar and eddie guerrero.
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UNIVERSAL TITLE - Goldberg (c) vs Brock Lesnar- Won't go longer than 10 minutes. Likely will get booed out the building. Brock Lesnar wins and gets cocky and calls another challenge. Finn Bálor returns at WrestleMania for for his rematch. Bálor beats Lesnar for the Universal Title likely will help from Goldberg. WrestleMania ends with Goldberg raising new Universal Champ Finn Bálor's hand up.

WWE TITLE - Bray Wyatt (c) vs Randy Orton (vs. AJ Styles)- These two put on a clinic but unfortunately Orton defeats Wyatt to win his 13th World Title. However, If AJ Styles is added I expect him to become a 2x Champ in a slow start to a babyface run.

US TITLE - Chris Jericho (c) vs Kevin Owens- Kevin Owens showcases his dominant side and and beats Jericho and takes him out in one of the best matches of the night.

RAW WOMENS TITLE - Bayley (c) vs Sasha vs Charlotte- Bayley retains in a pretty good one, and Sasha turns heel afterwards.

SD WOMENS TITLE - Alexa (c) vs Smackdown Roster- Will be the most forgettable match. Remember the last time they did this at WrestleMania XXX? Didn't go to well. Will likely be on the Kickoff Show. Other competitors will likely be Tamina, Eva, Carmella, Natalya, Becky, Mickie.

ANDRE THE GIANT BATTLE ROYAL- Braun Strowman wins after last eliminating The Big Show, who nods his approval to Strowman as sort of a passing of the torch. Wouldn't surprise me if Hogan returned in this match as a surprise entrant.

The Undertaker vs Roman Reigns- The match everybody will be talking about after WrestleMania (this Cena's Proposal, Sasha's heel turn,the return of Hulk Hogan,and Bálor shockingly winning the Universal Title.) Roman Reigns turns heel in the match by the way he brutally beats Taker down to defeat and retire The Deadman.

PINFALL OR SUBMISSION ONLY- Shane McMahon vs AJ Styles- Likely a stipulation where AJ gets added to the SmackDown Main Event if he wins. AJ defeats Shane in a clash full of heavy spots.

SETH ROLLINS CALLS OUT TRIPLE H- Seth Rollins calls out Triple H for a match but falls short to "The Game."

IC TITLE NO HOLDS BARRED - Dean Ambrose (c) vs Baron Corbin- Baron Corbin defeats Dean Ambrose to win his first title in WWE and go 2-0 at WrestleMania.

CRUISERWEIGHT TITLE - Neville (c) vs Austin Aries- Match Of The Night?! Austin Aries defeats Neville to win the Cruiserweight Championship

MIXED TAG MATCH - John Cena/Nikki vs The Miz/Maryse- Match could surprise us and end up being one of the best matches on the entire card. Mainly including the evolution of 3/4 performers over the last few years. Who knows? Maryse could still have it. Expect John Cena to propose to Nicki after they win in one of the most talked about Mania moments.

SD TAG TITLES - American Alpha vs The Usos- Second year in a row, Uso's work the pre-show and this year they fall to American Alpha. Who retains on the Grandest Stage.

RAW TAG TITLES - Gallows/Anderson vs Enzo/Cass vs Cesaro/Sheamus- Enzo/Cass gets their moment by defeating Gallows and Anderson to become new champs on the kickoff show.

Sami Zayn vs. Samoa Joe- Fourth and final Kickoff Show match. A better match than the one at Fastlane. This one sees
I'm assuming that both Finn Balor and Goldberg are babyfaces and Brock Lesnar is a heel. So, why would you make two babyfaces collectively beat a heel like Brock Lesnar? I know that Brock Lesnar is the conquering heel and what not. But isn't using the numbers game a heelish thing to do? Basically, Finn Balor needed help from Goldberg to defeat Brock Lesnar. That's not what a babyface should do.
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I'm assuming that both Finn Balor and Goldberg are babyfaces and Brock Lesnar is a heel. So, why would you make two babyfaces collectively beat a heel like Brock Lesnar? I know that Brock Lesnar is the conquering heel and what not. But isn't using the numbers game a heelish thing to do? Basically, Finn Balor needed help from Goldberg to defeat Brock Lesnar. That's not what a babyface should do.
Because it protects Lesnar and the "Taker/Goldberg" rub. It gives Goldberg a final chance to screw Brock and a final pop, Bálor gets his WrestleMania moment. But when you really think about it...It probably would make more sense to let "The Demon King" beat Brock clean to evolve and establish that character as something to fear.
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Because it protects Lesnar and the "Taker/Goldberg" rub. It gives Goldberg a final chance to screw Brock and a final pop, Bálor gets his WrestleMania moment. But when you really think about it...It probably would make more sense to let "The Demon King" beat Brock clean to evolve and establish that character as something to fear.
It would also make Balor look like a stupid if he takes help from Goldberg to beat Brock Lesnar. He's a babyface and so is Goldberg. That won't be a Wrestlemania moment.

Defeating Brock clean immediately increases the credibility of that wrestler. Also, Balor could turn heel in future and then defeat Brock Lesnar with the help of Balor Club. I hope that Bullet Club does have its presence felt in WWE.
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It would also make Balor look like a stupid if he takes help from Goldberg to beat Brock Lesnar. He's a babyface and so is Goldberg. That won't be a Wrestlemania moment.

Defeating Brock clean immediately increases the credibility of that wrestler. Also, Balor could turn heel in future and then defeat Brock Lesnar with the help of Balor Club. I hope that Bullet Club does have its presence felt in WWE.
Yeah I was just about to say that he should start a full heel run. Not with Bullet Club though. I was going to say as a full fledged demonic character. It's original and unique. And I'm not talking similar to Kane's. Sort of like the way I had him in the WCWF. Only problem is WWE wouldn't let him be nowhere near as violent.
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Based on last night's Raw, a few happenings are clear. For one, Big Show vs. Shaq is officially off as Show announced last night his intention to be the first 2 time winner of the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal. Big Show worked really, really hard to get himself into the best physical shape he's been in since he first started wrestling and one of the chief reasons for that is because of the proposed match with Shaquille O'Neal. However, once Big Show lost clean to Braun Strowman on Raw a few weeks back, I thought it was a clear sign that the match wasn't going to happen as WWE would want to protect Show going into a WrestleMania match with a celebrity, especially one of Shaq's status. As to why the match fell through, my guess is that Shaq ultimately wanted too much money or he's let himself go downhill and is in pretty lousy shape. Either one is plausible as there've been rumors that Shaq has put on a lot of weight and you know he'd want a lot of money to do this thing. Personally, I'm extremely glad this match is off because I simply have no desire or interest; I especially have no real desire to see another WWE wrestler made to look like a trained monkey against a celebrity.
The second thing coming off last night is, as many of us already suspected, Seth Rollins is cleared to wrestle. During his confrontation with Triple H a few weeks back in which he told Hunter he'd "be at WrestleMania", the likelihood that he'd been medically cleared already was high. Of course, it was no guarantee since they hadn't gotten physical and this led to all kinds of speculation ranging from Rollins ambushing Triple H at WrestleMania to someone coming to Rollins' aid when he called Trips out, etc. However, given that his brawl with Triple H saw the two getting extremely physical, including Rollins taking several shots to the knee with his own crutch and being put in a knee bar submission, it was confirmed that Rollins is not only cleared but he and Trips will have a match at WrestleMania. If Rollins knee wasn't at 100%, they wouldn't have gone through with the angle last night in a helluva closing segment
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Rush In And Die Dogs - I Was A Man Before I Was King."


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