Superstar Billy Graham- Right or Wrong?

[Spinebreaker]

Shocking. Utterly shocking.

A wrestler, currently employed as a villain said some nasty things about someone. Good God. WWE should be taken off the air for such behaviour.

Seriously though, why on Earth does Billy Graham decide he needs to be involved at all? Sammartino was mentioned, if he wants to respond, then I'm sure he can. I'm sure the Wrestling Community would be interested in hearing from him. Billy Graham, there's no money involved for you here. No-one to sue or try to ruin because of your personal grudge. Go Away.

[THTRobtaylor]

Originally Posted by OneLoneSapper

Punk and Vince took a shot at Bruno. That's it. You can argue that they did the same thing to Steamboat but The Dragon was there and no doubt knew about it. The truth is that wrestlers and promoters disrespect others all the time and this is no different. And when they get a bit of backlash over their statement they use the same argument, "It's a work". They say it to the point that it is hard to tell what is real to them and what isn't.
Kevin Nash is the king of the "It's a work" defense. Not long ago he made some remarks about Eddie Guerrero and when people called him out on it he said It's just a work. He was distancing himself from his own comment by saying that it was meant to piss people off. Now Jericho, who last time I checked wasn't currently working for WWE and would have no idea what was going to happen is saying it's a work.
People have wanted Bruno to go into the Hall of Fame for years now, but after Monday night it's doubtful he will ever want anything to do with Vince. Any shot of that happening, which were slim to begin with, was taken away with that one comment. But don't take it so hard. It's just a work

In Steamboat's case it was more a way to introduce his son, which is no doubt where they will end up going with this Barrett feud. Ritchie v Wade at Mania for the IC would be a nice match.

On reflection I was maybe a little harsh on my previous post on Bruno, he did give a lot in his career but at the end of the day he was the guy who threw a fit when they asked him to commentate rather than be "the man". It's not easy to be at the top and then be at the bottom and see yourself become a shell, but ultimately Bruno had his time and his era ended the moment Hogan pinned Sheik. Lambasting the world cos it changes is pointless, it'll change anyway and you'll just look bitter, even if you ain't.

[CrucifiedRaven]

He's wrong.

It's kayfabe. Punk is putting himself over like any heel does. It's meant to draw heat.

It looks like Billy Graham has just gotten sucked in worse than an 11 year old fan.

[Hordriss]

It was just a heat-seeking exercise, and should be taken as such. Sure the words themselves were disrespectful, but that was the point. Punk is a heel, and heels are assholes.

Let's face it, if it's not off limits to make light of Jerry Lawler's near fatal heart attack, then what of a misguided cheapshot at the expense of generations past?

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Who gives a shit. Punk was actually right. How many times do you hear old timers bitching about new guys. Go back and count how often those guys bumped. True, the ring was harder, but these guys bump soooo much and from so many different angles.

I don't have the credibility to back this up, but Jim Cornett does. He once said "in the old days, people thought you were killing each other when you really weren't, now guys are killing each other and no one believes it".

[waylonmercy]

I think CM Punk is stretching facts to be a heel. WWE could kiss Bruno's ass on TV for years and he wouldn't join the HOF. Bruno comes off as very selfish. If he wasn't selfish he should suck up his pride and join the WWE HOF out of appreciation for the diehard North Eastern Americans who considered Bruno family to them and had a deep connection with him and idolized him. These people are starting to die off and he's still stuck in 1980's with bitterness.

I am very sure CM Punk is just going for heat with regards to his character and that is all. He is really not trying to insult Bruno and I am sure he thinks the world of him.

[essdee19]

WRONG!!!.. does he not remember he was a heel also who cut promos. Reguardless if that was how punk felt or not he does know that wrestling is not real. This man is such a jacklye and hyde with wrestling and feels he has to mention him self while taking up for bruno smh

[Fated_Sin]

I get some of the Graham's moaning on it but let's face facts. It's been 30 years "Superstar" and the heels of this era don't pull punches because some guy stuck in the past doesn't like it. Punk is one of the best heels in wrestling (yes I am a little biased having seen the guy work numerous times in other promotions and getting to know him back when myspace was still relevant yeah just dated myself there but moving on.) as well as one of the best talkers in a long time. And can someone please get some new material for the Rock cause the same song and dance won't cut it promo wise against CM Punk hell it wasn't even good using the nostalgia with Cena (who I wished had just gone back to thuganomics for life then and ditched the SuperCena routine...) it was cool back when it was fresh and new but now it's just...man I hate to say it but it's worse than the continuation of the What chants. (sorry for getting off topic but it's just been frustrating me lately )

[ratedxaussie]

This has got to be the most ignorant thread I've ever witnessed on a wrestling forum.

Honestly, I just wouldn't be suprised if when Edge cut that promo on Cena about "hating his hat and his shirt and stuff" if someone made a thread saying how Edge was wrong and he shouldn't hate his hat and stuff...

This is exactly why we don't have an attitude era anymore, because people can't handle it. Why is it that when CM Punk cuts a promo basically saying how when Vince dies the WWE will be better off, but Triple H/Steph will run it into the ground is amazing because thats what people want to hear, yet when he cuts a promo on something they don't like, suddenly its not okay?

Perfect example. Everyone bitched about Jerry's heart attack, why isn't Jerry bitching? Jerry had the heart attack, not any of us, and he certainly doesn't need people on the internet to defend him or anything. If Jerry was okay with that, which he likely was as he knew the heat it'd get (As with Cole talking about his mother dying), then why is everyone else bitching?

Rock calls Cena a fruity pebble. We know he isn't, why don't we make any threads saying how wrong the rock is? Because its a promo. This is why Punk is such a great heel, he is getting you so invested in the promo and making you hate what he has said so much that it drives you to go make a thread on a wrestling forum.

Honestly, who cares what he said about Bruno or other legends. The crowd obviously would realize Bruno was a big deal in the day for holding the title so long despite Punk saying it was never defended. (he wouldn't namedrop some nobody). People are just too sensitive these days, especially with things that have absolutely nothing to do with them. The majority of us werent watching wrestling in those days or were old enough to really know what those times were like for them wrestlers/people in general, yet we are getting so defensive about the whole thing? In the end, what does it prove arguing about how many days he wrestled, when this was twenty-plus years ago?