Who Performs the Finisher Better - Randy Orton or DDP?

[deanerandterry]

I'll give it to Orton for the simple fact his looks more high impact and devastating. In every other category they match up pretty evenly. They can both hit the move from anywhere and have both done it in very creative ways and with either the Diamond Cutter or the RKO you always get the feeling that both guys can hit it from any position at any time on any person which helps. Both have put away the biggest and baddest with their finisher so outside of the actual look of the move they are dead even everywhere.

Like I said at the top I give it to Orton because its more believable you can put away an opponent with the RKO. It's probably for the simple fact that Orton jumps when he hits the RKO unlike DDP but for that simple reason I gotta give it to him. Sometimes the Diamond cutter looked weak when he hit it and I don't get that feeling as much watching the RKO.

[snowblind56]

I voted for DDP's. His just looked more brutal.

I know Bubba Ray's Bubbacutter has been brought up, but nobody has mentioned the Dudley's 3D Dudley Death Drop. That used to be insane, especially when tables were involved.

[midgensa]

I think that I personally like the DDP version better, but only slightly.

I CANNOT stand the RKO build up move where he falls down to the ground and you know the people are just going to counter it or whatever. It makes no sense to me and he never hits it. He has also switched it to virtually being a one-armed version which is not as cool to me.

I think when Orton first brought it out, they really made it a great "can be hit at any time" move and it was fantastic with his legend killer gimmick. I thought literally, he could see Dusty Rhodes at a restaurant and he would RKO his legendary ass. But it simply is not that anymore.

DDP always put the two hands together. Grabbed the opponents head and made it look a little more menacing that RKO does now.

In the end it is a really close vote for me and I simply LOVE LOVE LOVE this move ... but "It's me, It's me" gets my vote.

[ManureTheBear]

midgensa:

I CANNOT stand the RKO build up move where he falls down to the ground and you know the people are just going to counter it or whatever. It makes no sense to me and he never hits it.

I kinda get the whole snake-dance thing, because Orton is the Viper an' all. I do agree, however, that it shouldn't get countered so much after that set-up, only to be hit "out of nowhere" later on in the match.

If DDP drags the opponent down anyway, wouldn't that make the move a hell of a lot more stiff if the opponent's timing was off? I'm all about the flash and the FAKE fighting, because I suspect that we all secretly like to think we could pull off some of the moves as "brawler" wrestlers ourselves and stiff working is... deterrant to say the least.

The RKO seems much safer to the botching opponent. Then again, we might argue, that it would be his just desserts for not selling properly.

The cutter is a very versatile move, with the Bubbacutter, Twist of Fate, Big Ending and (I think) Crossrhodes being other variations thereof, so green rep to its inventor.

On a sidenote, do you guys think that Big E missed the opportunity to turn his Big Ending into DDP's fireman's carry variation or are you as sick as I am of seeing the fireman's carry as the set-up for SO many finishers these days?

[enviousdominous]

DDP all the way.

DDP moving up through the ranks is a very different story than Randy Orton moving up through the ranks.

DDP was a manager who had to behave like a Pam Anderson Rip Taylor hybrid when he was in AWA. They finally let him have a few matches and after years of fighting tooth and nail for his spot he was allowed to be the guy with the cool theme song and jaw dropping (literally and figuratively) finisher. The only reason they had to book him as a champion was his work ethic.

Randy Orton fell out of his mom one day. He was given the role of a happy dork that can't lose. He botched the modified swinging neckbreaker that was his finisher on almost every occasion, so they gave him a version of the neck cutter that requires more of your opponent than most other moves. He became HHH's chihuahua up until getting handed the world title, he then lost his spot to Batista for trying to grope anything remotely female in his immediate presence. They taught other would be cocky pieces of shit not to behave like him by giving Randall an awesome theme song and a push.
So yeah. One man made it through persevering, the other made it by being born. I believe that DDP performed the move with more class, as it didn't require him to get into a fight with the mat before doing it. They both executed the move in very unique situations, one did it before the other. There's nothing unique about Randy Orton, he's a poorly constructed groaning mass that does a shit job of representing those who inspired his gimmick.


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[WackerJr]

I absolutely love the Cutter / RKO as a finisher. It's effective and I enjoy the versatility of it, as both Orton and DDP have been creative in its uses (Vs Carlito, Evan Bourne, Eddie & The Giant for example). I've always liked it how it was hit on Diggler recently (thrown up in the air and then you jump up and hit it as they come down, similar to the Bubba Cutter or Dudley Device I guess).

My vote goes to DDP, although it's a desperately close-run thing. The 2-handed (as someone else said, "guillotine" style) makes it appear just that little bit more hard-hitting and makes it look a though it relies on the other person less.