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Old 03-18-2013, 02:09 PM
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It's not so bad if it's a free TV show and it isn't overused but if it's a pay per view you expect a clean finish for your money. Pay per views are where story lines come to a head. Sure you hope your guy will win but at least the very least the finish is an actual finish and not some bullshit like a schmozz, DQ, or count out.

Even worse is when the results are nullified on free TV the next week. TNA went through this for a while where every pay per view ended in a dusty finish. On thursday night on free TV they would nullify the outcome and announce a tournament to end at the next pay per view only for the same thing again. This is why TNA can't sell pay per views. I know if I ordered a pay per view and the results were nullified the next day on free TV I'd feel like a chump.

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Old 03-19-2013, 01:46 PM
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I remember back then in older PPV's if a face wins via count out or DQ the crowd would be cheering. Now a days fans would be pissed if PPV matches ended that way.

While I would like most PPV matches to have a definitive finish, I wouldn't mind seeing a few countouts in high profile matches. Especially if the heel gets counted out or face get screwed. Sometimes it works pretty well to generate heat or protect the two stars. The most recent one I can think of was Night of Champions when Batista was counted out against Edge. It protected Edge as a Heel Champion and made Batista look strong and could have set up an interesting story if not for Edge's injury.

I think in older PPV's Jesse Ventura would often say that if a Champion get's DQ'ed or Counted Out he/she keeps the title but does not get the winner's money. I think this made count outs or DQ's easier to accept back then. Question is would a similar rationale work today?

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At this point, I can only imagine people throwing their remotes at their TV screens if WM29 ends in a count-out lol
Well, there are many ways for a count-out to happen.

But if a countout happens at WM29, it means that probably either one of those happened:

- Either Cena or Rock were beaten so hard and definitely that they couldn't manage to get up in a count of ten. That's a conclusive ending to their match - even more conclusive than a pinfall. And I don't remember ever seeing this on a PPV main event on WWE. It is kinda of anti-climatic unless the match itself builds up really well, though, so it must have a perfect execution to work out alright.

- Either Cena or Rock decide to walk out on the match, which, given the circumstances, pretty much scream "heel turn". If Cena is the one to walk out, I guess it would indeed be a worthy ending for WM, everything considered.

So I believe that a countout finish at WM could actually be more eventful than a standard finish, depending on execution.

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I remember in the old WCW days that Ric Flair would always retain his title by count out of time limit draw or something of the like. I never had a real problem with it as long as we knew we would get a rematch. The title is a bit misleading as by the time we knew there was a count out the money would be paid. Would I buy a ppv if I knew in advance it would end in a count out? Well I guess it depends on how good of a match I thought the two wrestlers would put on. It has been used a lot in the past to protect characters so I don't really think it would affect whether or not I would buy the ppv.

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