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Old 03-28-2018, 05:28 PM
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The concept of a spring clean is ridiculous, that WWE seemed to do it at that time of year in the past isn't based on that... it's just how their "season" goes with Mania being March/April.

What people forget is that WWE currently produces:-
- 5 Hours minimum of live TV a week.
- NXT, 205, Mixed Tag Challenge for another 3 hours of regular weekly TV
- WWE Network Specials and PPV, at least 8 hours worth per month
- At least live events/house shows a week outside of regular TV tapings of 2-3 hours often in 2 markets at a time.
- International Tours that often take place during the same times as other shows in the US.
- Run a successful developmental programme/promotion with its own live events.
- Reality based content such as Bellas/Diva's, The Miz/Maryse Show/Table for 3 etc

That requires a massive amount of talent of all abilities and levels to keep the machine not only running but to cycle talent in an out.

Someone like Ziggler on paper doesn't seem to be doing anything, but the reality is now his role is to be that reliable mid card guy who can heat a new talent. Releasing him just costs an upcoming talent the chance to get over with him. Someone like Apollo Crews has on paper "failed" but has he?

When you saw Uhaa Nation back in the day did you ever truly say "WWE Champ One Day!" or a mid card talent who could probably do better on the indies for a short time... or could be a career guy in WWE and make more.

Some ARE reaching their natural career ends, but again there is no real rush to end those careers on either side.

Goldust not only can still go, but still seems to actually be getting better. Even if had plateaued, he is still the most experienced active guy they have... who seems to be generating something that could work with Mandy Rose and help her get over AND could still show up and make a loss to Cena not only interesting but actually a platform. Do you really toss that aside and make him an agent now? or even worse risk him doing a Jericho and heading to work with Cody?

Big Show will be Braun's partner... it's obvious... the match will be over at Mania in a minute or two and Show gets to win a title in his last Mania moment... Braun may then take him out but... in his case if he ends his career it'll be because he is ready to.

The balance is always what can a talent offer compared to what can a newer talent offer... some guys like Ryder, Hawkins, Breezeango, Rhyno and Slater, Truth and their ilk don't particularly offer anything that a call-up or indy signing wouldn't do better... but they have familiarity, people are used to having them around in the same way Haku, Hillbilly Jlm, Brooklyn Brawler and Tito Santana were just always around, until they weren't.... but every time one was replaced it was with someone truly better...new isn't always better as people like Dana, Dillenger and Enzo proved.

What's needed is a true evaluation of the talent and where some WISH to go elsewhere, them being allowed to.

Why fire a guy like Goldust when someone like Neville WANTS to go? Why fire The Bludgeon's who at least have some potential just to bring up a team like Heavy Machinery to job in their place? Even Titus is finding his place, but it's not going to improve from where it is... if he's happy with that, let him do it as long as he wants... if guys want to hit the indies and make money that way, let them.

I'd see the list of people wanting to go being smaller but more significant and having impact. Neville is a no-brainer, would Owens or Zayn go? Possibly? Would The Club go? probably... would Nia walk? Quite possibly... but if you must "clean house" start with the ones who really want to be at home, working elsewhere or who REALLY can't go anymore... before releasing some poor sod who only did what they were given.
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Old 03-30-2018, 06:56 AM
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Would love to see a few NXT callus after mania too
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:00 AM
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There are way too many wrestlers in WWE.

This can create a problem down the track, as more and more talent come through the Performance Centre and onto NXT. More are being added than are retiring.

There are some superstars and Divas who are doing little of significance at the moment. Maybe WWE has to get ruthless, get rid of this sham of a brand extension, and cut anyone who they have no long-term plans for.

Some who should be told "Don't come Monday", include, in particular order:-

-Goldust, who should retire, and become a full-time trainer, and maybe make guest appearances as Goldust in Royal Rumbles.

-The Big Show- Haven't seen him for a while, and for a giant, not seeing him is a hard task.

Show has had his day. Braun Strowman is around to take over the big man role, so Show isn't needed anymore. Retire him, and give him a Legends contract.

-Kane-Has had his day. Retire him, and put him into the HoF.

-Mark Henry has retired-About time. Henry has been pushed and de-pushed more times than I have had breakfast, and has done little memorable in his career.

-Alicia Fox, Tamina- Nothing around for them at the moment, and I don't see them getting major storylines.

- Also cut Breezango (who focus more on lame comedy than on matches), Ascension (who have been buried since joining WWE), Curt Hawkins (WWE never ran with his gimmick), Zack Ryder (has had his day, and he isn't going to go any higher), R-Truth (comedy jobber these days).

Also too bad that Dolph Ziggler re-signed with WWE, as I feel that he has missed the boat too, and he was talking of leaving.

Only keep talent who there is future plans for, and cut the rest. It might sound rough, but WWE's roster growth is unsustainable, especially when part-timers keep coming back.
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Old 04-04-2018, 10:05 AM
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I disagree with Breezango. Every time a list like these are made, there's always somebody there that is more entertaining than the majority of main event talent because they're jobbers. Breezango and the Fashion Files used to be the only reason to watch Smackdown. Lame comedy, sure, but it was a break from vanilladom. With another case, they'd be back doing what they do best.

Until last night I forgot the Colons existed and so did the rest of ya.

Ascension sure I agree there.

Mike and Maria Kanellis aren't doing anything of note are they? Have they done anything of note?

Sin Cara is still on their roster.

There's probably plenty of cruiserweights that could disappear and nobody would notice.
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Old 04-04-2018, 12:22 PM
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Ascension
Sasha Banks
Goldust
Big Show, shame he signed a new deal
Mike Kanellis, let him go back to the indy's.
R-Truth, retire as well
Dana Brooke

All don't contribute anything to WWE
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Old 04-04-2018, 07:49 PM
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Let go of:
Goldust
R-Truth
Zach Ridder
Alicia Fox
Mike and Maria
Ascension (Or repackage them)
Sin Cara
Akira Tozawa
Curt Hawkins
Kalisto
Rhyno
Tamina
TJP
Heath Slater


On the fence:
Big Cass (Hopefully they package him differently after injury) would love to see him as Strowmans partner. He does better in tag setting anyways.
Mojo Rawley
Bo Dallas
Curtis Axel
Tye Dillinger
Fandango***
Tyler Breeze***

*** Note that I do like them both as a Tag Team but I think they need more. Their appeal is starting to dwindle a bit and they can use something fresh. Maybe a heel turn with a manager??
Bella Twins (Or just have them doing WWE reality shows)
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Old 04-04-2018, 11:24 PM
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Titus
The Club (Gallows and Anderson) If they're not gonna use them properly, just let them go join Cody..
Dana Brooke
Corbin - He's just useless..
Colons
Natalya
Tamina
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Old 04-05-2018, 03:54 AM
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Why would you fire Cruserweights? They are amazing, and they are on TV all the time.
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:41 AM
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Why the hell would anyone fire Goldust or Big Show?

These are pretty much now, along with Kane the most experienced active guys you have... Goldust may have value as a trainer, but that value is far greater training guys IN THE RING and on TV... He can still go, is arguably better than ever in many ways and the fans accept him as an "elder statesman" of the company. Not withstanding you send him out into the world right now and he just enhances Cody's All In project as competition...

Show is re-signed, so forget him going anywhere... cue him being Strowman's tag partner... as I predicted. Kane will retire soon, but he'll get one last push.

Maria and Mike? She just had a kid yesterday, so would be harsh to release them... repackage them on their return and give them another shot.

Rhyno? Perhaps, he has run his course, as have guys like Slater, Ascension, Colon's and Breezeango... all these have had multiple go rounds and not clicked, so I agree these can be replaced.

But the issue remains, jettison too many and it means you plunder NXT again. Sure they've had some new talent in there, but you can't do the mass call ups in the way they did previously without damaging the brand... Replacing some tag teams seems smart, SaNity and Authors of Pain are ready and need to come up... but leave the others there for now. That means keeping some of the lesser teams a while longer to get them over.

Likewise singles guys... Is Lars Sullivan ready to take over from Big Show? Hell no... Is Velveteen Dream ready to take Goldust's mantle? Not yet...and it could be another Adam Rose if they rush it.

Realistically these are the only replacements/releases that should be made in the coming weeks.

SaNity for Ascension, Bray Wyatt, Tamina (assuming Bray is repackaged in some way)
Ohno/Chris Hero replaces Sheamus (Kings of Wrestling replace The Bar if Sheamus is as injured as they say)
Aliester Black replaces Kane (assuming Drew stays in NXT)
Johnny Gargano replaces R-Truth as mid card face

Leave others where they are... guys like Bo can always be repackaged with Bray in a new Wyatt family... someone like Axel could join too.
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Old 04-05-2018, 10:09 AM
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I disagree with the sentiment of "way too many wrestlers in WWE." If wwe did a cleaning in order to free up money, maybe, but to do a cleaning because of too many people on the roster...I disagree.

For one, R-truth, Alicia Fox, The Colons, Tamina and whoever else who hasn't been seen a more than a handful of times within the last couple of years aren't hurting anyone from still being on the roster. Plus, I would hate to be called up only to replace one of them as a "standby superstar."

Also a big reason people hate wwe is because of their constant repetitiveness.

Each week on Raw, we know we are going to see, Sheamus, Cesaro, Reigns, Balor, Miz, Strowman, Rollins, etc.
That is all well and good, but it gets boring pretty quickly when you get the same guys fighting each other EVERY SINGLE week.
A good example of this is Raw's tag team title scene. For almost a year, we had Rollins fighting Sheamus and Cesaro on nearly every episode of Raw.


Some of these names mentioned so far make no sense. Why would wwe get rid of Corbin, Kalisto, Sasha Banks, Titus, Bray, Slater, Breezango, a few of 205 live's top cruiserweights?
Kalisto is the biggest name on 205 live.
Corbin, hate him all you want, but you can't deny that he's done well for himself, the last two years of being on the main roster.
Sasha Banks! Really? Sasha's arguably the biggest female on the roster, as I don't think Asuka's popularity is at that level yet.
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