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Old 07-06-2013, 06:38 PM
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Well, 18 high school chearleader Montia Parker is, literally. The high school senior from Minnesota was arrested last month for pimping out a younger member of her squad, the first time police said they've seen one teenager pimp out another.

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Making the story even worse, Parker used Backpage.com to prostitute said 16-year-old member of her squad, one with a developmental delay. After overhearing a conversation between the girl and her teammates about ways to make money, Parker used text messaging to ask the girl about having sex for money. The girl refused to have sex, but agreed to give oral sex in exchange for money. After coming to an agreement, the 18 year-old Parker advised the girl on how to dress and pose for her picture in the ad, and posed as her mother to get her out of school in order to perform said deed. On two occasions, Parker took the 16-year-old out of school.

On the first occasion, March 5th, Parker pulled her teammate out of school and drove her to local apartments, where she waited outside while the girl performed oral sex on a customer. Parker then pocketed $60 dollars the teenager received for "services rendered", with the younger girl allegedly receiving none. The next day, Parker again pulled the girl out of school, and brokered a deal with another customer, this time to have sex. When the girl refused, Parker insisted, and according to the complaint filed by police, told the girl the following:

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"You'll be fine. I didn't drive up here for nothing, and eventually you will need to have sex."
The younger girl then went into the building and offered oral sex, but the customer declined, insisting on intercourse instead.

Most children, especially 16 year old's, would have a problem with their mother going through their text messages, but this 16 year old is likely glad she did. Upon learning her daughter had received an unexcused absence and that she had allegedly pulled her daughter out of school, she went through her daughter's phone, and saw the messages between the two girls. She then called the police, and Parker was arrested shortly after. Said Minnesota Police Chief Mark Raquet:

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"She really didn't deny any of the allegations. She told us she created the Backpage.com ad for her, drove her to perform sex acts on two separate occasions, for which she pocketed the payment. She informed us she had gotten a lot of calls from men who had seen the ad, and that she was still receiving phone calls from men requesting oral and vaginal sex without protection."
So what's next for Montia Parker? Attempting to secure a deal, for one. At the current moment, she's out on bail, and has plead not guilty to charges of sex-trafficking and prostitution. If found guilty of sex trafficking, she risks the possibility of 15 years in prison or a $40,000 fine. If found guilty of prostitution, she faces up to 20 years in prison or a $50,000 fine.

Currently, her lawyers are attempting to broker a deal which will keep her from serving any time in prison. As for her schooling? After being charged officially on May 21st, just a week and a half before graduation, she was expelled. Said Hopkins High School(where Parker attended school) representative Jolene Goldade:
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As I said earlier, this is the first documented case, according to Minnesota police, of one teenager "pimping out" another. I'm not naive enough to think that it's never happened before, quite the contrary. I'm sure that is has. But if this is the case that this is the first to be prosecuted, one would think a heckuva precedent needs to be said. Teenager or not, deals asked for or not, jail would seem a necessary part of the equation, would it not?

In past threads, we've almost unanimously agreed that prostitution should be legal. I'm not presuming all, because I'm sure there are those opposed to legalizing it. But, for those who are in favor, I offer the following question:

If prostitution were to be legalized, what about their 'handlers', like Montia Parker? Should that be legal as well?

Obviously, not the handling of underage teenager girls however, for those unclear. And for those against the legalization of prostitution altogether, there's still something here for you as well.

Should mandatory jail time be part of any 'deal' for Parker?

Any other thoughts on this are welcome.
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Old 07-06-2013, 09:08 PM
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This is almost as bad as the time that wrestling promoter and his son pimped five young cheerleaders out to HHH and HBK. At least this story didn't involve the inclusion of a dwarf.

If prostitution were legalized you would have to add some type of administrator. It's just good business. This type of talent tends to lack in business and organizational skills, much like actors, athletes, and professional wrestlers. Back when I was independently turning tricks I would go meet a client and show up in a bear suit instead of my dominatrix outfit. I mean the look on their faces was priceless but it lost me a lot work.

Parker should have to go to jail. There is so much wrong in what she did (and I'm not just referring to charging $60 for head, outrageous!). She basically bullied a minor in to selling sexual acts. It might as well be molestation.

Oh and remember to get your bottom bitch to delete their texts.
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If prostitution were to be legalized, what about their 'handlers', like Montia Parker? Should that be legal as well?

Obviously, not the handling of underage teenager girls however, for those unclear.
Sure, if you're going to legalize the ancient art, you might as well allow their "management" to exist, too. Of course, as a legal enterprise, there have to be rules, although it can be argued that pimps aren't the best at following rules set out by others.

Still, the underage aspect is the biggest restriction they have to face, along with taking advantage of someone who is "developmentally delayed." After all, the younger girl received no compensation for what the older one demanded she do; the young girl must have been even more mentally deficient than we might think, no? But the depiction of pimps we see in the movies (I don't know any personally) indicate they have rather strong personalities and if the 16-year-old was incapable of saying no to Montia, then ol' Parker the Pimp ought to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, which includes......

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Should mandatory jail time be part of any 'deal' for Parker?
Hell, yeah. Who gives a shit about her high school graduation and future life prospects? Plus, if she's in the slammer, that's time she can't be pimping out anyone else. Why the courts would be compelled to strike any type of deal in this case is beyond my ability to understand.
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I don't see how anyone could deny that this Parker girl deserves to go to prison. She is a legal adult, and she knew what she was doing.

And as GSB and Sally have already said, if prostitution is legalized, then procuring should/would be too. It only follows that sex workers would need agents, not only to manage money and arrange meetings, but also for protection. The legal status of bright suits and ornate cups, canes, and sunglasses would vary from state-to-state, however.
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If prostitution is ever legalized on a national scale, then there's going to have to be some sort of administration and management going on that's under government control. There's simply FAR, FAR too many ways in which exploitation runs wild otherwise. I'm sure some think of the whole idea as exploitation of women but, in a perfect world, all women could have the ability, choice, talent, intelligence, connections and financial resources to go to law or medical school, conquer Wall Street, be a major political figure, etc. It's not a perfect world so, sometimes, people have to do what they have to do just to get by in the world without it squashing them flat.

As far as Montia Parker goes, I believe jail time is definitely appropriate. She bullied a minor into performing sexual acts for money. What fully, legally grown adults do with their bodies is their business as far as I'm concerned, even if what they want to do is to "sell" their bodies.
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If prostitution were legal, I am sure they would need someone to handle their affairs. It seems to me that the pimps are the source of all the problems though. You know the pimp I am talking about. The one that speaks with his fists and not his mouth. It is hard for me to get the stereotypical pimp out of my head when talking about this, but I am sure if it was legal things would be a little more regulated possibly leading to less abuse.
In the case of this Montia Parker I think she should most definitely get jail time for this. She took advantage of an obviously mentally challenged minor. That has to carry some kind of consequence. It amazes me the things that people sit in their house and come up with. I picture Montia sitting in her house broke and bored and saying hmmm I am going to go to school tomorrow and force this girl to do sex acts so I can get paid. She definitely needs jail for this, and I suppose situation like this are part of the reason that prostitution isn't legal.
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I can't help but feel the school system the 16 year old attended deserves their own punishment. "Although the events did not occur on school grounds, the charges are very serious. Whether an incident occurs on our campus or not, student safety is always our top priority." SOMEONE POSED AS HER MOTHER TO BASICALLY SMUGGLE HER OUT. TWICE!! AND YOU LET IT HAPPEN! Are both girls in the same school? Because if they are, that just makes this glaring plothole so much worse. And they had the audacity to expel her when they had their own play in this? No one knew her mother? No one raised questions? "Oh, you're a prostitute? Fuck off. We care about our students safety."

What a load of shit.


And if prostitution is legalized (how's the oldest profession in history not legal?), then handlers would be logical. But only with contractual obligations binding them to keep their own end of the deal. Holding out is common in this field as is the mistreatment we see on TV.
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I can't help but feel the school system the 16 year old attended deserves their own punishment.

I agree. They were, however unwittingly, participants in allowing one woman to pimp out a girl while she was supposed to be 'in care of' the school. There are few ways I can think of then what happened that shows less care eing taken for a student. What happened to the days when a parent had to pick their child up from school if they needed excused early, or even if the girl drove, the parent had to show up to serve as proof.

It's worse then incompetence, it's sheer negligence.

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This never sat right with me. As I said, the 18 year old woman who attended the school as well, simply called the school and posed as her mother. Worse, she did it two days in a row, and the school let her leave with the 18 year old, without checking validity of anything, obviously.

I have a hard time seeing how that involves ANY focus on student safety. This was bad enough, but what if the 16 year old girl, who was developmentally delayed, had been raped by the man she refused to have sex with?

This is a 'covering your ass' statement, and a poor one at that.


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SOMEONE POSED AS HER MOTHER TO BASICALLY SMUGGLE HER OUT. TWICE!! AND YOU LET IT HAPPEN! Are both girls in the same school? Because if they are, that just makes this glaring plothole so much worse. And they had the audacity to expel her when they had their own play in this? No one knew her mother? No one raised questions? "Oh, you're a prostitute? Fuck off. We care about our students safety."
They are. Parker and the 16 year old girl were on the same cheer squad, and she came up with the idea when she heard the 16 year old girl and friends discussing ways to make money. And she let a girl who also attended the school be the one to let "escort her out", in more ways then one, I suppose.

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The big question I have, however, is this: Do you allow the handlers to be the 'pimps' who now control the women and pocket a hefty percentage, or do you simply use government handlers, even a cop a town, to do so, make them fill out "forms" at the end of the night, and charge them taxes.

I'm all for both legalization and government involvement myself.But do you expend what would likely be large amounts of government resources and pass legislation strictly governing how the prostitute must behave, or do you pass simple laws, like monthly STD testing and taxes, and let the pimps handle everything else? Business as usual, I suppose.

But if this is the profession they choose, why should the government use too strict of oversight if the very nature of the profession isn't the safetest as is.

Especially if you attend Monica Parker's school.
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Wow I overlooked the whole posing as the mother to get her out of school thing. I skipped school for whatever reason when i was a senior. My mom allowed me to do so wrote and excuse, and even then the principal wasn't having it. A group of us all skipped together so he saw right through it and we served our punishment anyway. That was 13 years ago, before all of the extra security measures have gone into place. Also we were only skipping school to go fishing, not pimping out underage girls. This seems inexcusable for any school anywhere in this day and age. Add to that the fact that she was developmentally challenged, and I would think she would have an extra teacher or two keeping an eye on her. It seems to me often times when these types of things happen it can be traced to a series of people not properly doing their jobs.
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