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![]() Okay, if you're in this section, you'll know that there is a substantial thread on reasons why people shouldn't vote for the ABC Party Candidate, Dagger Dias. Well, this is a free forum and that is their prerogative but I think it's time to say a couple of things.
First off, Dagger was voted the ABC Candidate fair and square. He dominated the first vote and, whilst closer, he comfortably made it through the second primary as well to become the ABC Candidate to take on Coco and Crock. The ABC Party was set up as a bunch of respectful and forward thinking members who had wide ranges of interests but were willing to get behind whoever the ultimate candidate might be. Now a quick membership history, I initially joined Killjoy's WFU Party as I was interested in an additional TNA mod. KJ quickly amalgamated with the ABC Party and seeing the quality of the names this linked us with I couldn't have been happier. I, along with some help, persuaded JWGunslinger to throw his (cowboy) hat into the ring but as his heart didn't really appear to be in it (he was very quiet at promoting his excellent track record) I voted for KJ in the first primary, assisting him in making the second primary, behind Habs and runaway winner Dagger. Now, as both Habs and KJ were clear on their intentions to join IDR in the TNA section, I held back to see which would get more support and, with a heavy heart, gave my suppport to Habs (not because I don't like him but because I didn't like moving from my initial guy). All in vain, however, as D Double had the ground support to win out. This should illustrate that I was far from a mark for Dagger. Dias won the election fair and square and I have had no issue in putting my full support into his campaign to become our next WrestleZone Forum mod. That's what being part of a party is about, if your guy (or gal) doesn't get through, you don't take your ball and go home - you throw your support behind the person your compatriots have deemed worthy. In the, strangely venomous, anti Dagger thread I have picked up on a couple of things that I felt should be addressed: Dagger has been accused of using rep to bribe votes. All of the primaries were private votes, there is no way he could know who voted for him. He appears to have a group of mods who are hellbent on him winning the election. I may be wrong but I was under the impression that this election was to put the power of electing the next mod in the hands of the members, not the mods so I would encourage people to make up their own minds rather than be influenced by the great and the good who I'm sure have more than their fair share in the traditional method of appointing mods. D Double apparently PMs to much. Sorry, does PM not stand for 'PRIVATE Message'? And what does that prove? That he is enthusiastic, perhaps? The GMods will not allow him in if he wins. ![]() His posting quality varies... Quote:
He loses his temper and takes things to personally. As just stated, it appears that he is learning to take a deep breath and not just rush in. He is incapable of learning or improving... see above again. He isn't liked. Well he has been a clear winner for the largest parties candidacy (even without my votes), so it appears to me that he must be getting some love. Only simpletons and newbies like him because he green reps all round him to be liked and this might actually win him the election. ![]() I'm not going to demand anyone votes for DD. What I will say is that ABC members should vote their party candidate and that you non party members have a simple decision: Dagger Dias or Crock for the WWe section (pick your favorite folks) or Coco for the spam sections. Coco could easily attain this modship without the need for this election as he has both the rep and enough current and prior mod support to fill what is essentially a vacant post and I doubt that you would find anyone who would oppose that decision as he is extremely qualified in this section (although I would still question the need, Coco and Sam seem to keep any problem makers in check without the powers of modship). As such, why waste an opportunity to put in someone who isn't in as strong a position. If you want your vote to mean something, vote for D Double or Crock. Ideally from my perspective, my ABC brother Dagger Dias. Thankee-sai
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![]() Did you see the way he responded to people who didn't like his game?
I like him but the man does not take criticism well
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![]() Do you think it's a coincidence that the majority of his detractors are members with longer tenures and staff experience, while the majority of his supporters are the opposite?
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Now, this shows that just because the need for a Spam Mod hasn't been filled or previously brought to light, does not mean it doesn't exist. This election has just made it clear. What need would Dagger or Crock fill that the current WWE team does not already? We have Jack-Hammer for discussion, and Nate and Nick for cleanup. Since you are supporting him, what can Dagger bring to the table?
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![]() The "Why I won't vote for Dagger" thread was posted on the 3rd. This was made on the 5th. That should be indicative of Dagger's support, no?
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You concede that Coco is qualified enough to become mod based on his own merits alone, and that Dagger is not... and you are using this as a pretext to vote for Dagger?
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![]() So what your entire post essentially boils down to is that you're voting for Dagger out of party loyalty and that since I'm already worthy of my getting my mod spot on merit alone, everyone should vote for a charity case like Dagger who has no chance of making mod but this?
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![]() Hey Dagger fans, watch what I'm about to do: give a well informed rebuttal for all of these points.
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The truth is, some of these qualities are actually decent strengths for Daggers, but his negatives outweigh them heavily. The thread I wasn't made wasn't a hate thread, it was a thread to inform the uninformed about why Dagger wouldn't make a good mod. And he wouldn't.
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In the same vein, just because Dagger posts alot, sometimes in places he may not be an expert(Like the CL/News for example), doesn't mean he's a bad poster. Nor does it mean he would be a poor Mod. Quote:
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![]() Good thread Finlay. I would like to say that even I did not vote Dagger in either of the two primaries. I went with Killjoy in the first and Habs in the second so I am not really a blind Dagger supporter or anything.
The thing that has happened throughout this election is that Dagger's mistakes have been blown out of proportion. If one were to believe the account that was written in the anti-Dagger thread they would be led to believe that Dagger is some flamer who has flame wars on a monthly basis. The basis for that conclusion has been a grand total of two flame wars with a guy who has been calling him a "f***ger" for months. Call Coco or Crock that and you see that they will flame back in 6 minutes rather than 6 months like Dagger did. As for the Mozz debate, it was a case of Dagger having a problem with the language that Mozz used rather than any criticism. The "How to be a Mod" thread by Lee was a joke and Dagger supposedly played in but haven't we done the same in the non spam sections of all things as well? We have sometimes replied to the topic by just seeing the thread title and not reading what was written inside. Dagger did the same here. And if mistakes count Coco and Crock do not have a clean slate either. Have we all forgotten Crock posting porn in rep and then behaving like a druggie going through withdrawal when he got banned. He annoyed guys on Twitter. At least Dagger has never done that. Have we forgotten the flame wars that Coco has every month. No, that we haven't because according to some people they only want to see Coco get elected to see the drama. Tell you what, do that for a week so that you can have your fun. Leave the serious stuff to the guy that is really committed to the forums, like Dagger.
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