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Old 01-16-2016, 09:00 PM
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I've been a big Motorhead fan for about 15 years and if you're not familiar with Lemmy Kilmister, I would suggest checking out his documentary, Lemmy.

Granted, he's rock star status for the better part of 50 years, even though Motorhead has more of a cult following than superstardom. Anyways, there's an interesting part in the documentary that shows that he's a HUGE Nazi memorabilia collector. I heard he even has Hitler's wife's hairbrush. Part of his regular attire is the Iron Cross, which granted existed before the Nazi party, but is now synonymous with the 3rd Reich.

Lemmy obviously didn't hold the same beliefs as the Nazi party but still, I did find it a bit weird that Zahra gets fired for a Nazi pic (which was obviously tongue and cheek, with the My Little Pony) from a few years back, yet Lemmy gets the nice send off for doing HHH's themes. Heck, Big Vis was part of the company for years, and I don't even think he got a nice sendoff, just a small write up in the news section.

I know HHH is/was a huge Lemmy fan too, obviously, so he's got the clout for the nice tribute and (hopefully) celebrity HOF entry, but I do think there's hypocrisy going on
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Old 01-16-2016, 09:43 PM
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Well he did pass away, so it's not the time to bring up all this.

Just show respect for the good things he did.

And just because he collects memorabilia doesn't means he shares their beliefs.
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Old 01-16-2016, 09:50 PM
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Was Lemmy Posting support for the Nazi Party publically? If he did, I missed it, and I agree with your post. If not, well, behind closed doors, do whatever, I don't care. If the post you are alluding to for Zahra is the one I remember from back in the day, it was a public post while being a part of and representing the WWE, which is why they acted upon it.
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Old 01-16-2016, 10:16 PM
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A) He's not employed to the WWE.

B) He's not showcasing his collection or proclaming himself a nazi like whatsherface did.

C) WWE is a publicly traded company who's shares and sponsorships are affected by what the people employed to the WWE do. Daniel Bryan was employed during the neck tying incident. Hulk Hogan was employed when the racism scandal broke.

D) Donald Trump, Hulk Hogan, Mike Tyson and Jimmy Snuka are all in the WWE Hall Of Fame despite heanous past actions. They may be ignored, but they're inductees. They're also not employed to the WWE.

D) He's not employed to the WWE.

E) It's the WWE. Does double standard on their part really shock you still?
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:11 PM
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A) He's not employed to the WWE.

B) He's not showcasing his collection or proclaming himself a nazi like whatsherface did.

C) WWE is a publicly traded company who's shares and sponsorships are affected by what the people employed to the WWE do. Daniel Bryan was employed during the neck tying incident. Hulk Hogan was employed when the racism scandal broke.

D) Donald Trump, Hulk Hogan, Mike Tyson and Jimmy Snuka are all in the WWE Hall Of Fame despite heanous past actions. They may be ignored, but they're inductees. They're also not employed to the WWE.

D) He's not employed to the WWE.

E) It's the WWE. Does double standard on their part really shock you still?
Very debateable on your point... They represent the organisation sure, but they are NOT employed... They are independent contractors and Vince has fought tooth and nail to keep it that way.

That's why they can be let go at the first sign of trouble (and later rehired) because they in effect decline to use their services. Look at the Del Rio incident, the other guy was staff... he had to stay in post till they did full disciplinary and THEN he was let go... all people saw was ADR got fired first.

There is a hypocrisy in this, as big a Lemmy fan as I am, I dislike this part of him. But I don't really get to comment, I didn't know him and I'm smart enough to know that the guy wasn't a Nazi. Indeed his drummer was of mixed race so he was anything BUT racist.

Is it any worse than Scott Weiland or Axl Rose wearing SS caps onstage in the past? or Judas Priest using that kind of imagery? No, the guy likes to wear and collect that shit, that's up to him... doesn't make him the loon from Falling Down. The reality to most people, Lemmy did enough good in life to be allowed that little wrinkle to his character, it didn't harm anyone...

Zahra was VERY hard done by but there was always going to be a backlash on her over the Rollins dick pic... that is what the whole thing was really about.

There is a worrying trend that employers now feel they can judge you on social media from x number of years back... although I am pretty sure the EU will soon put paid to it via human rights.

WWE have been hypocrites for so long that its not funny... Michael Hayes is getting a HOF nod this year when Hulk is "removed"... both said disgusting shit around the same time... Hayes said it ON WORK TIME, TO AN EMPLOYEE...

But the reality is they can set their own goalposts and move them as they seem fit.
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Old 01-16-2016, 10:16 PM
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Why the fuck would someone collect anything having to do with Nazism or Hitler anyway, unless of course they shared those beliefs, or in any shape, way, or form were even slightly drawn to them?

Anyhow, it's hypocrisy alright.

And I'm gobsmacked at the thought of a mediocre musician being inducted into a WRESTLING hall of fame. While they're at it, they may as well call in Slash. At least he's a fucking genius. And besides hypocrisy, this just shows how much of self-serving autocrats HHH and his stupid family are. Just because Lemmy composed a fucking theme song, he's going to go into the WWE hall of fame. So if Edge had married Stephanie instead, may be he would have conferred Alter Bridge members, especially the Godly, beautiful and otherworldly Myles Kennedy with the honour of being in the WWE HOF.

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Old 01-16-2016, 10:30 PM
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Like other's have said the biggest difference between the two people in question, is that one was not employed by the WWE, therefore can do whatever he wants.

Being a collector of anything doesn't automatically mean you subscribe to the belief's of the items you are hoarding. My grandfather who was a book collector found a first edition copy of Mein Kampf at a thrift store in Glasgow. He bought it for next to nothing. Even though he owned the book, which he couldn't read by the way because it was in German, he didn't believe in what Hilter or the Nazi's stood for. It was a piece of history and that's why he wanted it.

If you look inside anyone's closet thoroughly enough you will find skeletons. Problem is people tend to forget that while they're looking through someone else's closet, someone just might be looking at yours.
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Old 01-16-2016, 10:24 PM
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Well in all fairness I think Lemmy collected war memorabilia of all types, not just nazi germany.
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The OP and everyone else don't know exactly why she was fired. It is known that her social media mistakes went beyond showing her "artwork". She may not have been open about her social media mistakes prior to getting hired by the company. It also sounds like she was kind of an asshole.
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Part of his regular attire is the Iron Cross, which granted existed before the Nazi party, but is now synonymous with the 3rd Reich.
Learn some history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_C...t-World_War_II

While Iron Cross is asociated with Nazis, it predates and has survived post WW2 bans. Swastika which Zahra posted is mostly associated with Nazi stuff. Plus Zahra is nobody and was employed at the time, Lemmy was somebody who was not employed and longtime friend of HHH.
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