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Old 10-07-2017, 02:56 AM
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My biggest fear is that Owens loses and I'm 80 percent sure it's going to happen.
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Old 10-07-2017, 06:31 AM
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I think Owens will win and take Shane out for the foreseeable future. If that happens then the speculation should end for HHH's Mania match, because there it is in a nutshell.

Owens will have beat up Vince and Shane, so only logical that HHH will come riding to the rescue, the dutiful son in law and all. Could work because we haven't really seen HHH since last Mania and he can be part of either show. Also consider HHH basically handed Owens the Universal title last year, he could see this as being a slap in the face by turning against the Authority.

HHH loves the revenge angle, I could see it working.
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Old 10-07-2017, 06:33 AM
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Reading from another site, the reason they added the falls count anywhere is that this will allow them to pre-tape segments of the match but could also allow for a stunt double in the event that Shane want's to do something so outrageous that it warrants the stunt double.

If it becomes obvious that it was either pre-taped or not really them it's going to take away from the match. In any event I can't see how anyone but Owens comes out the winner. Shane has been used to elevate other stars and is very good at it
So there will be camera cuts? Well it can happen. For example during live action Owens can throw Shane through a door, window. Camera changes to the next room and we're seeing the pre-taped thing. However, what's the purpose of the Cell if they're going to go to the back?

It's insane. 15-17 years ago this match would have been a co-main event and it should be a co-main event. But if you have Jinder Mahal the WWE Champion, then this match gets the main event spot.
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:28 PM
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So I came back into this thread, in order to let something out. Something that has been bothering me. That match really didn't put over Kevin Owens

Sure it gave him some momentum and a big spotlight moving forward, but it didn't really put him over. Why? Here's why.
Shane jumps from the cell, Sami pulls Kevin out of the way, then Sami places Owens over Shane. So here's the deal. Had Sami not interfered, Shane would have killed Owens and had won the match. So Owens only won because Sami saved him. So Owens is the guy that couldn't beat Shane McMahon in a match....

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I was thinking about this even before the match, but they should have had Kevin Owens take the big bump. Mick Foley became super over because he was thrown off the top of the cell, plus through the cell. Shane became over and stole the show because he jumped of the cell. You see the pattern here. Owens gets over by taking the big bump.

How?
Shane throws Owens from the top.
Then Shane waits for Owens to get back up and lie on the announce table besides the one Owens went through after taking the fall from the TOP.
After Owens has laid there, Shane jumps and Sami appears to save Owens.

But here's the deal. Owens has now taken a big bump, equal to Shane's. So they're both over.

It just seemed to me that the only people who benefited from that match was Shane and Zayn, when I think, it should have been Kevin.
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:32 PM
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I think Owens will win and take Shane out for the foreseeable future. If that happens then the speculation should end for HHH's Mania match, because there it is in a nutshell.

Owens will have beat up Vince and Shane, so only logical that HHH will come riding to the rescue, the dutiful son in law and all. Could work because we haven't really seen HHH since last Mania and he can be part of either show. Also consider HHH basically handed Owens the Universal title last year, he could see this as being a slap in the face by turning against the Authority.

HHH loves the revenge angle, I could see it working.
I still don't understand why they never did this.... HHH comes back for Wrestlemania season and takes Shane's side. Then he can either:
a) betray Shane and join with KO and Zayn
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b) stick with Shane as a face
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I saw a highlight package where is shows McMahon's Mania entrance when he comes down with his kids. I forgot how much that makes me cringe.

I hope No Mercy starts backstage with Shane walking to his changing room and he sees his kids. Then later in the evening he returns and Owens has taken them all out.
Owens could learn something out of Luke Skywalker.

4 months after this match and it feels like it was a big filler, that started a mediocre run of Zayn & Owens, that will most likely end without any glory for them or will somehow lead to Shane vs Bryan. Cringe.
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