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Old 05-16-2017, 07:42 PM
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Well in all fairness, I could probably go through every promo any one specific wrestler has ever done and pick out specific examples to make it look like he's good at promos, even though he might not be.
On the other hand one could take any veteran and find a mountain of tiresome of repetitive promos that make a fan wonder why they watch this crap.
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Old 05-17-2017, 02:33 AM
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Here's some of Ambrose's promos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccT1DnwJZzw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlC2GyqBcN8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oadWDNdp8I4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYmTsHGYryk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYYdpIMVRJE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1Avx7WCYiw

You think all of that is 'mediocre'?

As for his matches:

vs. Rollins - SummerSlam 2014, Hell in a Cell 2014, Elimination Chamber 2015, Money in the Bank 2015

vs. Owens - Survivor Series 2015, TLC 2015, Royal Rumble 2016

vs. Reigns and Lesnar - Fastlane 2016

vs. HHH - Roadblock 2016

vs. Cena - Raw After WM 32

Don't forget his matches with The Shield.

But hey he's just mediocre, right?

EDIT - But, but Roman Reigns draws more than Ambrose!! Of course he does. Push anyone that hard and they'll draw. Fact.
Damn, all those matches happen almost a year ago... How great have his matches and promos been since then? I hate everything about Reigns, but I'd be damned if I didn't get more excitement watching him in the ring than Ambrose. Shield Ambrose > Parody Ambrose
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Old 05-17-2017, 07:30 AM
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On the other hand one could take any veteran and find a mountain of tiresome of repetitive promos that make a fan wonder why they watch this crap.
You know that line about making statistics say whatever you want? Seems fairly applicable in this topic of conversation
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:06 PM
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It's almost like Ambrose gave a promo or two every week for the past several years and the best BSE could do was come up with 6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4co2d1C1-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhOPuKMXKn0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRBuhdyqxGI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdiJTlmbS3I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCgyspL2E2I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D02mn1pGStY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWyUzx4uwx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU65ZpaLdcg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=387PR30Ahh8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi_W4oa0eiI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEjCtBhHVn8

There's 11 more. I can find you more.

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Damn, all those matches happen almost a year ago... How great have his matches and promos been since then? I hate everything about Reigns, but I'd be damned if I didn't get more excitement watching him in the ring than Ambrose. Shield Ambrose > Parody Ambrose
The Shield Triple Threat

His 3 matches with Styles on PPV

His match with Rollins on the SD of the draft

His 2 matches with Corbin weren't bad

His match with Ziggler at SummerSlam

Not all of these are great, but they're far better than 'mediocre'.
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Ya think?
I do.

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You probably ought to let Triple H know he doesn't know what he's talking about. Or acknowledge you don't. Either way.
I don't need to tell Triple H anything. He's an employee. His job is to do the boss's bidding and parrot the boss's agenda.

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And the Reigns cog is bringing in more money than any other cog. You're trying to play word games and it's going poorly for you.
In my defense, I've been working to educate people on Internet forums about how wrestling works for over a decade.
And the machine's ratings are tanking and they're mooching more money from fewer and fewer fans by the day. They can place anybody they want in the top spot and say "here's the top guy, see!" and they'll be right. Because they put him there. And they'll watch the whole things lumber and drag because their guy is a bust and he's dragging the numbers down. He's like the smartest kid in the slow class.

If you knew how wrestling worked so much, you'd grasp the basics. Like the crowd is supposed to be into the top babyface and loathe the top heel. Not the other way around. And that the rules don't change just because the owner of the company is old and senile, but has no competition to make him change.
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Old 08-30-2017, 09:02 PM
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I do.
Then I think I see your problem.

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I don't need to tell Triple H anything.
On this, we completely agree. In fact, I'd say you don't need to attempt to tell anyone anything on the subject of wrestling.

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He's an employee. His job is to do the boss's bidding and parrot the boss's agenda.
Yes, and we all know how little McMahon cares about making money.

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And the machine's ratings are tanking
The fact you think ratings matter today to the extent they did 20 years ago shows how little you've kept up with how wrestling works.

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and they're mooching more money from fewer and fewer fans by the day.
And yet, in 2016, the WWE brought in the most revenue in their history and were the most profitable they've been in 6 years.

So do please keep telling me how they don't know what they are doing. Moron.

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They can place anybody they want in the top spot and say "here's the top guy, see!" and they'll be right. Because they put him there.
That's not how it works. If it did, then Dolph Ziggler would actually matter.

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And they'll watch the whole things lumber and drag because their guy is a bust and he's dragging the numbers down.
All financial info to the contrary, right?

Does it not bother you to say such stupid things which are so easily debunked with facts?

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If you knew how wrestling worked so much, you'd grasp the basics.
You mean like how the point of professional wrestling is to make money and the WWE is making a lot of money? And that Roman Reigns is one of the most profitable pieces of the WWE puzzle right now?

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Like the crowd is supposed to be into the top babyface and loathe the top heel.
Have you even watched wrestling since 1995? Wrestling hasn't worked that way since the nWo caught fire and Steve Austin gave a Stunner to Vince.

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Not the other way around.
You obviously don't understand how pro wrestling works. Pro wrestling cares about one thing and one thing only...making money. That's it. End of story.

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And that the rules don't change just because the owner of the company is old and senile, but has no competition to make him change.
Again, the WWE in 2016, the last year in which annual financial data is available, generated the greatest revenue in company history and the greatest profit since 2010.

You don't understand what you're talking about. I'd suggest you'd stop talking.
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