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Old 08-25-2017, 01:17 AM
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Brock isn't around every week, so people don't get bored of him. If he was on every week, did the same thing, and it was discovered that Vince "loves" him, these same people who cheer him now would turn on him in a second. But because their attention spans don't last more than a few minutes, they forget about Brock when he isn't around.

Also, Brock seems like he doesn't give a flying f...ck about professional wrestling, just like most of his fans, who pretend that they know everything about it, who claim to know a lot about wrestling, but never have a nice word to say about it.

A lot of them also love everything that comes out of Paul Heyman's mouth, and would like to put something into his mouth in gratitude.
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Old 08-25-2017, 03:41 PM
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A lot of people forget that most WWE fans don't care that much for actual wrestling. It's all about seeing these cool and badarse characters beating people up. That's exactly what Lesnar is, and does.
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Old 08-25-2017, 04:23 PM
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A lot of people forget that most WWE fans don't care that much for actual wrestling. It's all about seeing these cool and badarse characters beating people up. That's exactly what Lesnar is, and does.
That's why I watch wrestling. That's why so many guys were over during the attitude era because of all the different gimmicks. If you can mix wrestling ability and gimmick you get someone like Kurt Angle the greatest ever. OH ITS TRUE!
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Old 08-26-2017, 02:59 PM
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All the things the OP said are correct but why does Lesnar get away with it?

A.) BECAUSE he is a part-timer he isn't over-exposed and fans don't get tired of him as fast as others who have '5 moves of doom.'

If Lesnar was around every single week doing the same thing, fans WOULD get tired of it and probably like him less.


B.) He does have LEGIT competitive athlete presence. It is true what Heyman says: the guy is a once in a lifetime athlete. The things he has accomplished, sure others have done somewhat similar stuff but Lesnar has done it perhaps the most emphatically as anyone.

This adds to his "It" status as someone who just draws the eye and attention that not many can do in the Pro Wrestling business.


C.) He has what many others don't have when they can't do great mic work - a MANAGER/MOUTHPIECE. The lost art of having a manager who can speak for you most of the time is clearly still valuable.

Sure, Lesnar can butt in with a few good lines but the 'sell' job on the mic goes to Heyman most of the time.

If Lesnar had to stand there by himself all this time WITHOUT a mouthpiece manager he WOULD NOT sell as well as he does. Anyone who remembers Lesnar when he came back and he had that fairly long promo in the ring with I think it was Vince or John Cena about demands he was making and such. Heyman wasn't there and you could tell Lesnar was not comfortable with all the dialogue he was supposed to say. He QUICKLY got Heyman back after that segment and has had him ever since!


D.) Lesnar gets away with his style because of his limited schedule, legit credibility, his size, his mouthpiece AND the fact that he won't be around all the much longer.

I believe his contract will run out officially sometime after the upcoming WrestleMania. He will likely lose the Universal Title (probably to Roman Reigns) and then perhaps finish up that rivalry before being done with WWE. He will have made him money. WWE will probably feel they have got enough value out of him that they could possibly get.

If he were to be sticking around any more years, like another 2, 3 or 4 years he WOULD rapidly lose his appeal because most of the interesting matches would have happened and his likely loss to Reigns as WM is probably to shift the "Top Dog/Beast" in WWE status to Reigns so having Lesnar around much longer just makes him kind of second fiddle.


So the good and bad for Lesnar fans is this is probably his last year (full year from Summer to Summer) in WWE even as a part-timer, so enjoy it even if the ending might be disappointing.
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Because fans in general are hypocrites. They'll go ape-shit in hatred when someone they hate like Roman Reigns or John Cena spams moves and get love from Vince yet when Brock Lesnar does it, he gets off scot-free because 'Suplex City bitch!' or some other reason.

Yes, you can make the argument that he's a part-timer but don't fans not like part-timers for a reason. And I don't mean the ones that have a couple matches back that lead to nothing, they seem to be ok with that; but more the ones that last longer than a few months like Batista or The Rock and more recently with Goldberg.

And even that's a little weird because Chris Jericho does this all the time and fans always seem to eat that up.
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Old 08-27-2017, 12:38 AM
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Because fans in general are hypocrites. They'll go ape-shit in hatred when someone they hate like Roman Reigns or John Cena spams moves and get love from Vince yet when Brock Lesnar does it, he gets off scot-free because 'Suplex City bitch!' or some other reason.

Yes, you can make the argument that he's a part-timer but don't fans not like part-timers for a reason. And I don't mean the ones that have a couple matches back that lead to nothing, they seem to be ok with that; but more the ones that last longer than a few months like Batista or The Rock and more recently with Goldberg.

And even that's a little weird because Chris Jericho does this all the time and fans always seem to eat that up.
I'm not disagreeing with most of what you said, but Jericho is a bad example. Even if he's only back for a few months, he's there every week. And he's there, mostly, to put people over. Even to a fault really. He even lost to Fandango at WM. I mean, come on...
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Here's another reason- they still remember the guy from 2002-04. That guy put on 5 star matches on a frequent basis. To Brock fans(and wwe fans in general) Brock Lesnar will always be the wrestler he was from 2002-2004 even though he doesn't work like that anymore. Plus they hope that he does decide to work like that against certain opponents. I was really hoping the Brock from 02-04 would come out vs Samoa Joe.

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I noticed you didn't seem to care that he squashed John Cena.
Well, I do. I just forgot about that. That wasn't right either for me. It was shocking but shocking isn't always good. Like Brock Lesnar ending The Undertaker's streak was shocking but nowhere near good.

As a side note, I'm enjoying Brock's reign now. Before Great Balls Of Fire, it sucked because well nothing happened. No defense. But the two matches have been good. These are the matches I want from Brock Lesnar. Not boring squashes.
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