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Old 05-29-2017, 06:17 AM
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Question.. I recently saw something on the wrestling observer news letter where they said that even if India would get the network they would have to wake up 4:30 am in the morning just to watch the Preshow for a large sum of money as compared to now where they can wake up normal Time and watch the ppv for free later on the day. Is this true? If so I would much rather wake up normal time for free then wake up 4:30 in the morning so I don't know why anyone else wouldn't.
It's totally correct. Raw starts at 5:30 AM. Same for Smackdown. PPVs are rarely live anymore after the Ten Sports was bought by Sony. Maybe they weren’t getting desired rating. PPVs can be seen for free just 12 hours later on Monday evening. And then a repeat on Wednesday.

Heck, NXT is more easier to watch. Since it's telecasted on Saturday evening. More than 60 hours after the actual telecasting.

Some years ago, PPVs used to be telecasted after two weeks. It's a lot better now.
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:42 AM
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Speaking from an Indian perspective, Jinder Mahal will slowly grow on the Indian demographic. It's a different audience than from the States. You cannot expect the audience here to be at once cognizant of the fact that he is now getting this rocket push and is going to be a major player in the coming months. The fans here have been the traditional fans, conditioned to cheer for the Cenas and Mysterios and Roman Reigns, not knowing too much about the behind the scenes aspect, getting their fix of pro wrestling from the good ol' television medium and not caring enough/tech savvy enough to pay and subscribe for an online streaming service. So the traditional Indians are going to take time to fully take a liking to this guy.

The problem with Jinder is it has been all too sudden for the people. Fans in India knew about the guy, but never cared all too much for him since the WWE never featured the guy, and for the kayfabe-driven people here he was just another "cheater" wrestler who is a "loser" to their heroes. Now all of a sudden as he has been given wins against Sami Zayn, AJ Styles and Randy Orton and frequently speaking the native language, having the Punjabi celebration, are the people becoming aware of him. Just the other day, 2 of my mates who gave up on wrestling after the Ruthless Aggression era were talking to me over dinner like, "Hey you know, I heard an Indian guy is the WWE Champion now?" So the following is growing. This might be an odd comparison, but just for analogical purposes, if you substitute USA with India, think of it as the Luger push from 1993 that came from nowhere and the traditional kayfabe believing people had to take time to really get behind the guy who was suddenly standing up for their country, just as Jinder is doing now.

All that said, I doubt it is going to convert into much merchandise sales and network subscription immediately. The kids here love their Cena and Reigns too much, and as pointed out earlier, the Network seems too costly for the kids to convince their parents to pay their money for. I have the Network since when it launched here in India but even I am thinking of putting my subscription on hold for a few months as A) it's too costly in Indian rupees and B)the WWE product SUCKS these days.
And this is why this whole Jinder deal just blows. They just had to ho head on with this. What has happened to slow builds? It's not like they really needed Jinder to be champion now. Build him up first. Have him gain some fans. Have him improve his game. Also the tour in India comes in September. So, what are they doing? Why did this come all of a sudden? Why rush things, again?
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:29 AM
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Question.. I recently saw something on the wrestling observer news letter where they said that even if India would get the network they would have to wake up 4:30 am in the morning just to watch the Preshow for a large sum of money as compared to now where they can wake up normal Time and watch the ppv for free later on the day. Is this true? If so I would much rather wake up normal time for free then wake up 4:30 in the morning so I don't know why anyone else wouldn't.
Yeah but you can say the same for most people who don't have the same time zone as North America. I don't watch PPV's live anymore unless I don't have to go to work.

And if the PPV is shown in free TV I would assume the TV station in India would cut commercial breaks thus potentially cutting away segments or even shortening the running time of the PPV to make space for their other TV programs.

Also in my country when TV specials air they normally have a ton of commercials. From where I am from if you watch the Oscars on Free TV you get 15 mins worth of commercials then 5 to 10 mins of the Oscars, then another 15 mins worth of commercials. Naturally segments were cut (heck they cut out the In Memoriam one year and even the Honorary Oscar for Robert Altman).
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Old 05-30-2017, 10:14 AM
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Anyways I can't edit anymore my point is that sometimes it's probably better to pay for the Network than getting the program via free TV.
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Old 05-30-2017, 10:20 AM
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Anyways I can't edit anymore my point is that sometimes it's probably better to pay for the Network than getting the program via free TV.
It really depends on priorities.

Like I can't afford paying $9.99 for just the WWE network. Many do. Many don't. I can afford to see a longer advertisement on free TV than to pay just for WWE network. The advertisements will be present there as well. Plus, the difference in time zones affect a lot as well. I remember UFC doing a PPV in United Kingdom after midnight just so that USA could watch it at regular timing.
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