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Old 06-24-2016, 09:56 PM
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Default Headlock, Tackle, Drop Down: Is the International Spot obselete?

You've seen it once. You've seen it a million times. Headlock, shoot me off, tackle, drop down, leapfrog, hiptoss, get it again.



The most common spot in wrestling. Go to any independent show, turn on any episode of RAW, you're going to see this 5 or 6 times. Some call it the International or the Universal. In other areas it is referred to as the Southern Spot.

In the 50s it was high spot. In 2016, it may as well be as much a formality as the announcing someones hometown before a match. And that's just the problem. The key goal of this spot, to have a rapid fire chain of moves where two wrestlers are trying to beat each other, has completely been lost over the years.

You know he's not actually going to trip someone with the drop down. You know he's going to get up and leapfrog over him every single time. The spot is a well-rehearsed dance instead of an athletic contest, and everyone in the audience already knows where it ends. Sure, you might throw a dropkick in there instead of a hiptoss. You might do a kip-up instead. But the formula is always the same.

So here's the question: If the audience knows the face is always going to get out of the headlock and shoot the heel off, if the audience knows the heel is going to jump over the drop down and duck under the leapfrog, what's the point of doing it? Is it tradition that compels wrestlers to still do this spot?

Will Ospreay and Ricochet caught flack recently for making their Best of Super Jr. match look too much like a choreographed stunt scene. How is the international spot any different? Any wrestling fan knows every piece of the puzzle, and can call the hip-toss 10 seconds before it comes.

You have wrestlers on the same card are performing the SAME spot at the start of every match, regardless of circumstance. Is this not actively detracting from the goal of every match: to make it look like a legit athletic contest?

Has wrestling outgrown the International Spot and is it time to quietly retire the spot?
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You've seen it once. You've seen it a million times. Headlock, shoot me off, tackle, drop down, leapfrog, hiptoss, get it again.



The most common spot in wrestling. Go to any independent show, turn on any episode of RAW, you're going to see this 5 or 6 times. Some call it the International or the Universal. In other areas it is referred to as the Southern Spot.

In the 50s it was high spot. In 2016, it may as well be as much a formality as the announcing someones hometown before a match. And that's just the problem. The key goal of this spot, to have a rapid fire chain of moves where two wrestlers are trying to beat each other, has completely been lost over the years.

You know he's not actually going to trip someone with the drop down. You know he's going to get up and leapfrog over him every single time. The spot is a well-rehearsed dance instead of an athletic contest, and everyone in the audience already knows where it ends. Sure, you might throw a dropkick in there instead of a hiptoss. You might do a kip-up instead. But the formula is always the same.

So here's the question: If the audience knows the face is always going to get out of the headlock and shoot the heel off, if the audience knows the heel is going to jump over the drop down and duck under the leapfrog, what's the point of doing it? Is it tradition that compels wrestlers to still do this spot?

Will Ospreay and Ricochet caught flack recently for making their Best of Super Jr. match look too much like a choreographed stunt scene. How is the international spot any different? Any wrestling fan knows every piece of the puzzle, and can call the hip-toss 10 seconds before it comes.

You have wrestlers on the same card are performing the SAME spot at the start of every match, regardless of circumstance. Is this not actively detracting from the goal of every match: to make it look like a legit athletic contest?

Has wrestling outgrown the International Spot and is it time to quietly retire the spot?
You're right.

This whole spot has gotten boring and stale due to it's repetitiveness.

Still it shouldn't be quit in any way. Rather, it should be used much less in these matches. There are many other options to start a match. A heel can ambush a face while the face riles up the crowd during his entrance. If it's a match between two distinct sized opponents, it can start with the underdog avoiding the attack of his opponent. Or just start with a collar-and-elbow tie-up and the stronger opponent takes his weaker opponent towards the corner. Creativity is needed to diversify the matches.
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