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Old 04-22-2016, 11:17 AM
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While she was a pioneer because of her look
Wrong, she was a pioneer because she COMBINED sex appeal with physical athletic talent and physicality in the ring. All one has to do is look at the role of women pre-millenium to what it has become now. It was either or. You had the Miss Elizabeth's and Sunny's of the world or you had the Fabulous Moolah's/Wendi Richter's of the world. You either you going to be a sex symbol/valet or a rough and tumble wrestler. Even Alundra Blayze wasn't portrayed as a sex symbol when she was Women's Champion.

Chyna broke those barriers. She had the sex appeal yet she could also (believably) kick some ass in the rind. It opened the doors for the Trish Stratus's, the Lita's and even the Torrie Wilson's and Stacy Kiebler's to mix it up in the ring.

The Intercontinental Title was pretty big deal in 1999 and 2000.

it's all the peoples that would mock her when she was alive and couldn't care less about her when she was alive then all of a sudden, we all want to praise her for what she did in the wrestling business.
I don't know any REAL fan of hers that mocked her. It was the media that ridiculed her. I thought it was sad and tragic the way she spiraled downward. Every time I would see a headline I would hope and pray she would get though it. Even when she was going through the hard times I think everyone knew of the impact she had and respected her. I remember her appearing in TNA and she got one of the loudest pops.

the fact is, chyna was at the right place at the right time,
You could say that about ANYBODY. Hogan, Austin, Rock even HHH. It's all about timing and seizing the opportunity you were given. She took the ball and ran with it! She will always live in fans' memories.

Her reigns as ic champ were forgettable
No. They were memorable. The FACT that she is the ONLY woman to ever hold the I-C title makes it memorable.

She tried to blackballed vince in giving her a raise that she didn't deserve,
I'm assuming to mean blackmail. How did she try to "blackmail" Vince. She felt they low-balled her on her contract but EVERY wrestler feels that way. Name one who's didn't have a financial beef with Vince?

she was demotted to the women's division and said that she was beneath the women's division.
She never said the women's division was "beneath" her. Stop lying. She said it wouldn't be BELIEVABLE for the women inthe division (who were much smaller in size) to try and take on a woman of Chyna's size and try to get heat on her (beat her down). She also said it wouldn't make sense for her to go from challenging (and defeating men) to all of sudden have trouble defeating women.

she made fun of everybody within the wwe and sadly even through she tried to meant fences with wwe, her past got up to her and nobody wanted to give her a chance.
I think she deserved a second chance. People have done MUCH worse than her and gotten second chances. Billy Graham accused Vince McMahon of covering up rapes and HE got a second chance.

Like I wrote, she was who she was, for some people, she was the greatest women in wrestling, to me, she was just at the right place at the right time and never was something special.
Maybe. But there WAS and will only EVER be ONE Chyna. Why haven't we seen anyone like her since?
Old 04-23-2016, 01:05 PM
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I was shocked to read that Chyna had sadly passed away.

Whilst Joanie had her problems & never really got over being released/leaving from WWE.

She will undoubtly be missed in the wrestling community.

2016 will surely be remembered for the year of the celebrity/famous person's death year.

With all the people we have lost this year and to add Chyna to the list along with Prince a day later.

A freind of mine at work said "who's Chyna" when we talking about the 2016 famous people death year & I told him who Chyna was, he responded "well ive never heard of Chyna, so her death does not matter when you compare to David Bowie, Prince or Alan Rickman, so piss off with your men-in-pants talk, your'e boring me"

Yes, Chyna did porn along with all the drugs she was using, but it does not erase her legacy from WWE & bygones should be bygones now Chyna is no longer with us.

At the end of the day she does deserve a HOF spot of her own, or when DX get inducted.

RIP Joanie you will be missed.
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Old 04-23-2016, 07:56 PM
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Anythings possible, but from what I've heard, there wasn't a suicide note, and while there were a few prescription bottles lying around, it wasn't anything abnormal and none were close to being empty.

She'd apparently been dealing with anxiety and sleep deprivation recently. The anxiety of course would be something long term, but the sleep deprivation would have been a recent thing, and she probably just had some sleeping pills to help with that. She might have simply just took a bad combination of the two, or something to help her sleep that didn't mix well with the anxiety meds? I don't know.

It's sad though. If anyone hasn't, they should check out Mick Foley's Facebook page for his tribute to her (the WWE definitely should if they want lessons in how to do genuine and sincere). It sounds like all she wanted in life was to have the people she was closest to in her life (her WWF family). She seems like she was an extremely sensitive person, who never learned how to handle losing that when she was fired, and later ex-communicated by WWE, and as a result, made some bad choices that kept making everything worse for her.

Think about it. You're already a bit of an outsider. You have a bit of a hard time connecting with people, or having people connect with you. Then you meet a group of people that you do connect with. Who do accept you. Who don't make you feel like an outsider anymore. Who just make you feel like you're one of them.

To someone who never had that? That is everything in the world. Then to have that ripped away, and to only ever get fleeting moments of it for the remainder of your life? That's tough. I don't know how many of us wouldn't have made some of the same bad choices she did as a way to cope and figure it all out.

It never had to be how it was between her and the WWE. She could have been in the family. She could have been part of the events. Triple H would have known how much that would have meant to her.

It won't be the same, but they can at least give her a bit of all she ever wanted in death. They can put her in the HOF, and let her be with her family.
Apparently, there was no suicide note found after Chris Benoit's murder-suicide.

Make of that what you will in both regards to Chyna, and Chris Benoit.

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