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Old 10-30-2015, 05:35 AM
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Oh to be a Canadian and not have to debate the laws and regulations of an outdated constitution every day... yup, life is good.

Anyway, I'm in the "couldn't care less" camp when it comes to Hogan. He'll be at Mania 32, cut a promo, maybe drop a leg, and leave... it's the same shtick every time, so who cares? If he shows up, that's cool. If not, that's cool too. I'm a little hesitant whenever anybody names names on this site (do your sources know your using their names?) so I'll reserve judgement but I don't see Hogan coming back anytime soon, especially not at Mania 32. I haven't seen someone blackballed like Hogan since Benoit and if they went as far as taking him out of the HOF and erasing his name, I can't see them bringing him back in half a year later.

Time will tell, but I don't really give a shit.
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Old 10-30-2015, 08:21 AM
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I seriously doubt Hogan is coming back to WWE ever let alone at wrestlemania after what's happened.

For all we know Hogan could be in prison by then for whatever lies he allegedly told under oath. He could also win his court case and $100,000,000 and move to Australia or South America or somewhere else he barbecue himself to death on a beach in the sun and never be seen or heard from again.

I honestly think that the only reason he has hung around in wrestling is because it's the only way he can make any steady income.

This court case will make or break the rest of his life.

I'm sorry but at this point in time I just can't respect the intelligence of anyone who says its a 99% possibility Hogan will be at wrestlemania. I don't even think he'd be allowed to buy a ticket.
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Old 10-30-2015, 02:16 PM
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By WM 33, there's a chance Hogan could be back in WWE depending on how the trial plays out. But WM 32, I don't think there's a realistic chance.
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I still can't see the big deal, If he had announced a press conference to tell everyone of his new racist views or done TV interviews stating how racist he is or even if he had some kind of history of racism then fair enough don't let him back to the WWE but I wouldn't have hung, drawn and quartered the guy just for saying one thing spur of the moment in anger in what he thought was a private conversation. Has everyone here really said nothing that they didn't mean or regretted in anger at some point?
No I don't think it was acceptable but he's human and he appologised so get over it.
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Old 10-31-2015, 03:03 AM
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After all this time, you still don't have a clue what you're talking about. Have you actually thought about what the First Amendment means? I mean what it actually means and not some idealized fantasy about what you think it's supposed to be or should be.

Hulk Hogan has the freedom to say whatever he wants to say as long as it doesn't incite, encourage or instruct others to commit acts of violence against others. There's absolutely no such thing as completely, 100% unlimited freedom to say ANYTHING you want and there never has been; there have always been some restrictions placed upon it if it puts other people's lives at risk. If he wants to say the N-word, he can say it and he can't put thrown in jail, fined or sued by anyone for saying. However, once a person decides to express their right to say whatever they want, they also have to endure the potential consequences that comes from the fallout of exercising said right. If you want to go on a racist tirade online and post it to YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, send it to major news organizations, then you're absolutely entitled to do so. It's also the absolute right of friends or even family to want absolutely nothing to do with you afterwards and for your place of employment to no longer want your services. If you work for anyone from Microsoft to friggin' Taco Bell, use racial slurs and it can be proven that you said it, you're gonna get fired.

It's a word that I wish would just go away forever, but that's not gonna happen. I don't like the fact that there's something of a double standard pertaining to the N-word, but there's nothing that can change that. It's a loaded word, perhaps the single most loaded word in the history of Western Civilization, and the inescapable fact is that a white person using it is taking some degree of risk whenever it's used.
Firstly, if your family and friends are true to you, they may be angry about you saying something, but they would sooner tell you to stop doing it, give you the silent treatment for a time etc. People who truly know the person who said it, and see it as foolish rather than that they secretly wear a KKK outfit, or are part of a Neo-Nazi group, will forgive the person if they are sorry. Any friend who wants nothing to do with you over such a little thing was never a true friend to begin with, and good riddance to them.

As for your work, you would be surprised. If what someone said is made public, then they might be fired. But I suspect that the mailroom boy has more to worry about then the employee bringing in million dollar clients. I doubt any company would be quick to sack someone who has brought in most of their business. If I got fired for doing this, I would wait for the heat to die down, and then approach my ex-company's direct opposition, and ask for a job, and then promise to bring all my best clients along with me, in order to now use what I know from the previous company to help put it out of business. That's how I treat someone who screwed me over.

Words are just made by a movement of the tongue. They have no power in themselves. They only get power, because people give words power. I think how you treat someone says more than what you say to them. The "N" word only has power, because it has been given power. Secure people wouldn't get offended by it, because they know it doesn't define them. Maybe we should stop catering to the crybabies and insecure in society.
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It's amazing how white people here come out against Hogan, and act offended. Yeah, because you have walked in the black man's shoes and understanding all he truly suffered.

Stop pretending that you care about the black community. You just act "offended" so that people here won't see that, deep down, you are as racist as everyone else.

If you really cared, you would help black communities. You would give money to help black charities. Or do you only care when others can notice it?

"Racist" is just a word thrown around when the person has lost the argument. You have no true argument, you just throw around a word. How infantile.

You probably want to see Hogan fall because he was massively successful, and him failing means that he is no better than you. So, I hope this incident has helped your insecurity.

BTW, you might think you are a better person than Hogan now. But you're not. Because you revel and take glee from Hogan's fall. This is a case of schauldenfrede. You enjoy laying the boots into Hogan, so this has nothing to do with racism.

So all "offended" whites, stick your fist in the air as an act of defiance.

Congratulations, you have let political correctness win again, and continue its evil spread throughout the world.

I wonder if you white people acting "offended" get as offended by being called a "snowflake" or "honky". I guess not. I didn't know that the white came off.

If I was Hulk Hogan, I would use my money and influence to make it my life's mission to destroy the careers of any journo who brought this to light. An eye for an eye. Then I would aim my target towards Vince McMahon and trash what I had built for him.
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And it's it amazing that you think people can do an say what they want without any repercussions. Even Hogan has apologized for what he said, you are one of the only people I've read that thinks what he did was okay.

Like JH said go around saying the "N" word freely and see how long your friends stick around. See how long you remain employed. It would be an interesting experiment don't you think. So please give it a shot and let us know how it works out for you. As you say "freedom of speech" entitles you to pretty much do and say whatever you want, so give it a try.

As for the topic at hand. What I'm seeing is nothing, and I mean nothing. He did an interview with SI not long ago on this subject, and the general feeling afterwards was he should be keeping a low profile and not bringing it up every chance he gets.

If he keeps up this behaviour he'll never get back into the WWE as they most likely want this to blow over. Hogan being Hogan though will protest his innocence to the end, even though he's already admitted guilt. For a 61 year old man, he really is a child when it comes to accepting responsibility for his own actions.

I can't see him at Wrestlemania 32 as long as he won't shut up.
What ramifications have you got for what you have said?

If you are not allowed to hold an opinion without ramifications, then how have you suffered holding your opinion?

You dish it out, but I bet you can't take it. You are the type who would change your mind the minute you suffer any consequence. You only think what others around you think at the time.You've probably never held an individual thought your whole life.

If people boo Hogan when he comes back, they can fuck off. Losers. They wish they had achieved 1/50th in their bottom-feeder existence. Hogan has lost more than most of his loser critics have ever gained, and he will still be richer and more successful than you will ever be. Deal with it.

Who cares if you are a nice guy. Nice guys finish last in life. People care about your achievements. Hulk Hogan doesn't need WWE anymore anyway. He has done all he can. He wouldn't be headlining Wrestlemania regardless.

I hope that one day, you say or do something that others find unforgivable. I hope that your reputation gets destroyed. But then, you need for people to even care about you to begin with.

That's why people here hate Hogan, John Cena or Roman Reigns. They hate anyone who is on top. You hate success. You say that you want your favourites on top, yet tear them down when they are (e.g. C.M. Punk).

I would rather have had the career Hulk Hogan had, then to ever have been Dark Lady. I pity you.
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If he was to appear at WM I wouldn't be surprised. WWE really has a way at covering their bases. The irony this little bit of audio surfaces right after the Church killings, during the height of these race fueled protest. I wouldn't be surprised if they called Hogan up and said; "Hey, we have to to surface this audio to save face during this racism fiasco. We'll pay you x amount of money and ease you in after all this blows over". Maybe I'm imaginative, but if I was a betting man my money would be on that.
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What ramifications have you got for what you have said?

If you are not allowed to hold an opinion without ramifications, then how have you suffered holding your opinion?
I didn't say anything about my suffering ramifications for what I said, the thread is about what Hogan said. So please show me where I said anyone other than Hogan had suffered.

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You dish it out, but I bet you can't take it. You are the type who would change your mind the minute you suffer any consequence. You only think what others around you think at the time.You've probably never held an individual thought your whole life.
Again another personal attack, because that's what you do best isn't it. You think of yourself as a one man keyboard warrior defending Hogan to the death. And please stop acting like you know me, you don't.

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If people boo Hogan when he comes back, they can fuck off. Losers. They wish they had achieved 1/50th in their bottom-feeder existence. Hogan has lost more than most of his loser critics have ever gained, and he will still be richer and more successful than you will ever be. Deal with it.
No one cares are how much money he has or how successful he was, you are the only person who throws that out there. At least most people that do gain something don't lose it by saying something maybe they shouldn't. Have you ever thought that Hogan would be sitting pretty for the rest of his life, if only he hadn't opened his mouth. No one did this to him but himself. So stop blaming everyone else for him making a bad decision.

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Who cares if you are a nice guy. Nice guys finish last in life. People care about your achievements. Hulk Hogan doesn't need WWE anymore anyway. He has done all he can. He wouldn't be headlining Wrestlemania regardless.

I hope that one day, you say or do something that others find unforgivable. I hope that your reputation gets destroyed. But then, you need for people to even care about you to begin with.

That's why people here hate Hogan, John Cena or Roman Reigns. They hate anyone who is on top. You hate success. You say that you want your favourites on top, yet tear them down when they are (e.g. C.M. Punk).

I would rather have had the career Hulk Hogan had, then to ever have been Dark Lady. I pity you.
Oh I do think Hogan needs the WWE, that's all he talks about is getting back. He has a huge black mark against his name now. No one can take away his accomplishments or what he's done for professional wresting, but they took away everything else from him. Oh he still has his fans, but no where to show off for them. The majority of posters here don't hate Hogan, Cena or Roman Reigns so don't know where that is coming from either. Do you even read the threads on the forum, or just come on making unfounded accusations?

I'm sure you have your fans here as well, but reading through the nominations for the WZ awards, I'm thinking there isn't too many.
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