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Old 12-04-2015, 02:15 PM
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I'm thinking about starting a weekly series of threads that cover the misconceptions of many aspects of the wrestling business and trying to clear them up as best as possible. Today, I want to talk to you guys about the term "put over". This has become a famous term amongst the IWC. It's seen on Facebook, on Twitter, on Instagram, on internet forums, just about anywhere on the internet where wrestling is mentioned, and even is talked about in person by various people amongst each other.

One thing that bothers me about it is when a PPV just finished, something happened at the end of the PPV that people didn't like and it then goes off the air is that there is a huge misconception surrounding the whole term. This is when they then take to the internet and say things such as "That was a burial", "Why did they bury him", "Why couldn't this person have been put over", etc. I've come to think "put over" has a lot more meaning to it than most people think it does, and one thing I have noticed is that it only seems to be "this person putting over that person" Yes, that is a good partial way of defining the term, but from really thinking about it, it's much more complex than that.

Let's say that the rumors of Kevin Owens vs Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania turn into the match actually happening. With the way Brock is booked, it could be a case of Owens being put over just by taking him to the limit (like Reigns should have been if Brock had just beaten him and not had Rollins steal the belt, which kind of ruined that story for the purposes of another). I don't think Owens is the man that should beat Streak-conqueror Brock clean, but you don't need to win to get put over or vice-versa.

And those last few words right there is really what this thread's point is. Putting someone over isn't only restricted to getting hit with their finisher and laying down for the one, two, three. If the person you're going up against looks good in the ring (getting good offense, near falls, etc), then you're putting them over, even if you're scheduled to win the match. Losing the match at this point means nothing. The person you won against looked good, got good offense, got most of their moves that they're known for, and you guys had a great match. Some guys that have done a great job at pulling that off over the years are Triple H, Chris Jericho, The Undertaker, The Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, and most recently, John Cena with his Open Challenge matches. So what if these guys win? They're still putting their opponents over by making them look good against them in their respective matches, let the person get in the moves that they're known for, and put on a good match. Job done. Mission accomplished. You won the match, and on top of that, put the person you faced over by letting them look good.

I just want people to better understand that that is what I think "put over" all comes down to, and hope people find this to be an enjoyable read.

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Old 12-04-2015, 03:51 PM
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Most people don't understand what getting a rub means or putting somebody over. They think anytime you lose to somebody that you just got jobbed out. But that's not the case.

People love to hate John Cena, I get it, it's the thing to do. But even though he beat Kevin Owens 2 out of 3 times Owens got a huge rub from that. If Owens came on the scene and feuded with Ziggler or something, he would not be as meaningful as he is now. That's a rub.

Same way with Austin way back when. He was mid card, than he started feuding with Bret Hart. Hart beat him majority of the time, but Austin always got his stuff in and looked strong in each defeat. So even though he lost he didn't look bad, and by feuding with the top guy he got a rub and looked stronger and more important.

That's "putting somebody over". It's not always wins and losses as you obviously know. But too many marks and newbies don't get that.
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Today, the WWE goes out of their way to avoid wrestling terms so a lot of fans have a misconception of the definitions. Putting someone over is usually done for two reasons. First, a person is leaving or needs time off so he takes the loss and transfers the focus to the other person. Next is you can help someone that needs a crowd push or heat by taking a loss in any way to put some credibility in your opponent while retaining your own. I just think Vince has so many guys that his team can't come up with storylines for them all, plus they're having a hard time even booking at the main event level.
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Old 12-06-2015, 09:40 PM
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Yeah the term "put over" is too wrongly assumed nowadays..... Now a loss means they are getting buried...... But i dont think so.... Lets take a recent example...
Kevin Owens-Cesaro Feud
They had two matches in this feud one at Summerslam & another at the following Raw.... In both matches, Kevin Owens defeated Cesaro cleanly... So now Cesaro lost these two matches and thus the feud too, still it wasnot that this loss buried Cesaro..... They both put on awesome matches and therefore they "Put Over" each other simultaneously thus increasing their credibilty....
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I totally agree. Just having the talent be in the big stage, participating in a big match is what puts over that talent. As you stated, Kevin Owens vs Brock Lesnar, in order for Owens to be "put over" he needs to take Lesnar to the limit. Of course Lesnar will win and why wouldn't he? He's the draw.

I always like to think of such matches like the Bret Hart vs Stone Cold match from Wrestlemania 13. Hart won that match, cleanly, but it was Austin's performance that night that really put him over.

Many people believe that when a young talent faces an older talent, the young should win. I totally disagree with that. Wrestling, does not work with age, but with drawing power. For me, the one taking the win should be the bigger draw or the one with the potential to become a bigger draw in the immidiate future. Such examples are Austin vs HBK, Cena vs JBL and Cena vs Triple H.

So come Wrestlemania, if we get Owens vs Brock then I'd expect Lesnar to win. Why? Because he's the draw. Owens will get a great showing and if the crowds reacts positively to him, he might also get a victory over Lesnar in a future rematch.
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