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Old 10-16-2015, 12:33 AM
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I'd say Reigns vs Cena to be a bout being considered for a future WrestleMania main event, but I doubt it happens the way being described here. I think everyone has prediction-hoped for John Cena to turn heel in the main event of WrestleMania every year since 2006, but that doesn't mean that it should happen.

Roman winning the Rumble and facing Cena makes far more sense. Why would you send your biggest established star to defeat a star your trying to establish, shouldn't it be the other way around? Sure Undertaker went over Batista at Mania 23, but Batista was a multi-time champ by that point.

Roman losing the mania main event two years in a row makes no sense. Losing streaks don't get people over, and a WrestleMania victory for Reigns makes the most sense at this stage in his career.

Cena turning heel isn't going to fix everything wrong with WWE. Quality writing, logical story telling, and consistent characterization will form the foundation to increase ratings, not the turning of one character.

I'd say given ratings lately in WWE that a new champion may be imminent. Reigns could win, Sheamus is in the wings (and an easy transitional champ), but I see Reigns winning the Rumble again and going over in the Mania 32 main event to redeem himself for last year. I'm not saying it's good, but I'm calling it the most likely thing WWE would do. I'm not sure if it will be against Rollins, Cena, Lesnar, Rollins and Ambrose, or who, but it seems to be what's in the cards.

If Cena does turn heel (IF), it happens after a new franchise is anointed. Hogan was in his 40s before he turned heel, Cena will be too (IF). I'd say Cena at 16 world titles in 2016 as being a reality, but it doesn't need the Mania main event. I'd give that to the record passing 17th.
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Old 10-16-2015, 04:03 AM
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I know you all may say it's never going to happen but let's look at the facts. John Cena is taking time off for personal reasons and WWE are saying it's because he is filming a TV Show.

But they have told dirtsheets there is an even bigger reason as well. Cena was telling the roster that he was leaving and when he returned they will realize it was for a good cause. Cena will be losing the US Title and is returning on the RTWM. WWE told dirtsheets that they was going to have Reigns defeat Rollins for the championship and Cena to eventually beat him for it in 2016.

The match is too big for any other event than WrestleMania. WWE are trying to break PPV buy records (and attendance records as well but that's irrelevant to my arguement.) There are now rumors that either Cena or Lesnar will win the RR. Cena said on the podcast that he would be willing to turn if there was somebody here for the fans. Meanwhile, WWE is putting Reigns in all these PR (Susan G Komen,Be A Star, Make A Wish, Commercials, Radio Interviews) stuff.

There was also reports of Cena telling Backlund or Greg Valentine that the boo's was getting to him. Which brings me to my prediction. And that is Roman Reigns will defeat Seth Rollins for the WWE WHC at Survivor Series and John Cena will win the Royal Rumble and make the boo's he get's on the RTWM as part of the storyline and he will turn heel at WM and defeat Reigns for his 16th world title in the main event of WrestleMania!!!
Utter bullshit, WWE tells "dirtsheets" there plans for the future? LOL maybe some dude who knows a dude that cleans for the mail room clerk at WWE HQ.

as for the boos getting to Cena i highly doubt that, he's shunned it off for 11years if it hasn't already gotten to him it aint going to.

as for turning heel that's not new news he said that on the Austin podcast that he'd only consider it if there was someone that could fill his shoes, Roman Reigns is not that guy, his stock has dropped considerably this year, i was a fan but it's getting stale now. Sure they can push his down everyone's throats like they did Cena but they just leads to resentment not fandom

Truth be told Daniel Bryan is the closest they had to someone that could fill Cena's role atleast from a PR standpoint
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Old 10-16-2015, 07:43 AM
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All I know for sure is that at wrestlemania, CENAWINSLOL and he buries another superstar. So your story could work out well. The crowd already hates Roman so why not give him the title? Then we end up in an awkward time of who to cheer for because Reigns is even worse than Cena in the ring and mic.

Add in a Cena heel turn...which ironically will make us love Cena again..and...yeah. It could work.

Reigns becomes the new Cena and Cena becomes cool again.
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Some of the reasons in here for why Cena won't turn heel are valid, although I think people may be over looking a few things. For instance, if Cena were to turn heel, I highly doubt his merch sales would take THAT big of a hit. In, fact I think they would improve in part due to both kids AND adults now rushing to Shop.com to pick up that first new Cena heel tee. Adults don't buy Cena shirts nowadays (or most don't) because his tees are always corny, bright, and childish... they're made specifically for kids. Change that up with a black tee that appeals to both and people will buy, buy, buy, especially the 18-30 age group. Also, I think we on this forum may be out of touch with how the kids think. Would kids denounce Cena and stop buying anything of his because of a turn? Some probably will, but a ton of others are so enamored with him at this point, it will be near impossible for them to turn on him. New fans would more than pick up that slack. When Hogan turned, he didn't lose all of his fans or even a partial amount, nor did Austin, nor did Rock. And Cena won't either.

As for the, it's so out of his character argument... well isn't that the point of a turn? To change characters? Would it really bug people that much if he stops preaching "Hustle, Loyalty, Respect" for a couple years? I kind of don't get this argument.

The most valid argument, and the real reason Cena won't turn anytime soon is because nobody is even remotely ready to take that spot. I think Cena discussed that when he was feuding with Rock, WWE was willing to go through with a turn to the point where he had new heel merch and music made, but they changed their minds last minute. At this point, I'm sure WWE saw Punk and Bryan as able to pick up the slack on the face side if they turned Cena. Nowadays, nobody's close.

You're idea is not bad, but perhaps a year or two too soon.
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Personally I can see all that happening besides the Cena heel turn and the WM main event. I've believed for a long time that the WM main event will be a face Brock Lesnar vs a heel Roman Reigns with a Sheamus potential MITB cash in and Roman or Brock stopping it. It makes sense because after HIAC Brock has been rumored to be turning face and eventually WWE is going to wise up and notice that Roman is in need of a heel turn. I've noticed no one has mentioned how a heel Reigns vs a heel Rollins would work. I guess it would be for another post but I'm kinda seeing a face turn in Seth's future. Getting back on topic, I don't see a Cena heel turn unless he's going up against someone like Taker or a returning SCSA where he would be the natural heel. So many ppl complain about his character because he wins all the big matches but wouldn't a heel Cena be worse? I also don't buy the premise that Roman isn't ready because honestly I think it's the storyline holding him back not him the person or wrestler. After being in the main event of WM he took a steep decline instead of continuing to climb up the card. honestly this feud with Bray Wyatt should have begun at WM with Bray interfering right as Roman is about to beat Brock. He could lay Roman out with Seth still cashing in and pinning Roman. This way sets up Roman vs Bray and Seth vs Brock. Those two feuds could carry the summer all the way to SummerSlam where they could have set up either combo of the 4 to feud for the title.
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Old 10-16-2015, 02:58 PM
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I have to agree, it would make everything he's stood for this last ten years a mockery. I looked at wweshop.com earlier today just to see what they had, and Cena has a staggering 117 items for sale. Compare that to New Day who is one of the most entertaining acts right now, they have 4 items for sale.

The WWE and Vince especially will never give up on that gravy train. Maybe Cena himself as I'm sure he gets a cut of what's sold. Heel Cena will turn off the kids and as they're the ones who convince the parents to spend the money, that goes out the window with them.

As for the Reigns heel turn. It will be interesting to see who they will push when Cena takes his hiatus. If the feud with Wyatt is over at HIAC, then who will Reigns face next, unless he turns on Dean? If that happens then Ambrose becomes the new face and Roman, well I don't know he still has to compete with Seth for top heel spot. I had assumed they would push Reigns in Cena's absence. But now I'm not sure about that either. They need a replacement for Cena, and Reigns and Ambrose are the two logical contenders right now.



If Reigns is going to fight Cena at Mania then shouldn't he be holding the title. I don't see that happening. Some have predicted that Cena will come back in time to win the Rumble and go onto the main event at Mania, but they have to get the title on Reigns first. I wouldn't even begin to think how that would happen, considering the Rumble is only a couple of months away now, and Seth seems in no mood to drop it to anyone.

Although Roman doesn't necessarily have to be holding the title in order to face Cena, I agree in that it would be best if he did. With that said, the time until the Rumble (January 24) is quite a bit...almost 3 1/2 months...that's almost a 1/3 of a year away. Plenty of time to have Rollins drop it to Reigns in the main event there.

It might also be best to have Roman pull a page out of John Stewart's book, and play up the fact that he's not going to let Cena get that 16th title (tieing Flair) in order to win over the crowd. That, and (I can't stress this enough) playing an anti-hero with the volume turned way up and really going hard on Cena should certainly get the crowd on his side.

Look at heel Lesnar...all the things he did to Cena...the crowd loved it. That's the easiest way to win them over...talk smack to him, cheap shot him, attack him in the back, beat him down and they'll love it. As long as creative works a lot with him on promo material, and he changes his style and tone to being more authentic, he could be an absolute great face/anti-hero.

WWE really needs to take the chains off Reigns and let him be the badass beast he could/should be...like he was in the begining with the Shield. He's way too restrained and Cena-fied by them now...it's unnatural, and therefore "boring" as the crowd chants. If they let him loose it'd be huge.
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While I like the idea you are suggesting in parts, this is just a glorified Cena heel turn thread.

I disagree with a lot of what's said in this thread. Reigns not being ready? You still don't think he's ready? Let me ask, when would he ever be ready then? Lesnar was in the company for what 6 months before he was given the belt? I don't even think it was that long. Cena was in the company for what, 2 years? Now how about Roman Reigns? He'll be at 3 years come Survivor Series. How will you ever know if he's ready, if you keep pushing his chance back?

My guess is the Royal Rumble winner will get booed out of the building regardless! Lets seriously face the facts, Batista got booed bad. The general thought was that he got booed because he was A: A veteran guy and B: He didn't need the Rumble victory. So the following year Reigns' wins and he gets booed out of the building...even though he's a younger guy who needed the Rumble victory to boost his resume. The only people who won't get booed out of the building would be: Bryan, Ziggler and Ambrose. And that's genuinely how I feel. Honestly, it drives me nuts to put it nicely.

But I don't think it's that good an idea. I sincerely think they might as well keep the belt on Rollins till Mania to have the Shield Triple Threat. Let Ambrose win the Rumble so he can be established more and actually win a big time match. Or have Reigns' win it again just like Michaels and Austin did before they finally became the big stars they were destined to be.
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If its Reigns vs Cena it could be a repeat of Lesnar v Goldberg. Both Reigns and Cena have large portions of the crowd who dislike them so I couldn't see them being allowed the main event, but if they were given it I would expect a crowd backlash.

Also I think Reigns is in desperate need of a Heel turn, he needs a big change and a heel turn on Ambrose or Cena would be a good way to get the heat, I wouldn't be against him winning the title at SS but I am against Cena v Reigns main event at WM
a) Goldberg vs Lesnar was never a Main Event
b) The heat they got was because both were leaving the company

Completely different and a poor comparison.
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