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Old 08-06-2015, 01:08 PM
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No he couldn't. He had reasonable creative control, meaning he could agree to storylines or not but it would have to be held up in court if he got sued. Vince also had to agree to how he exited as part of the deal. Sitting at home with the belt and refusing to go to work would get him sued. Simple as that.
Maybe. But Vince wouldn't risk Bret no-showing the PPV. The whole year was built toward Bret vs. Shawn at Survivor Series and there was no way Vince was going to risk Bret no-showing. Vince's main priority has always been to the fans to give them the match as advertised. You're talking about a guy who paid Warrior half a million dollars to appear at SummerSlam '91. This was without the doubt the second biggest card of the year behind WrestleMania and it would set up next year's WrestleMania. Vince's top priority was getting Bret in that ring on that day. Suing was not an option just days before the PPV.

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You don't think Vince and his lawyers knew that WCW lawyers wouldn't allow a piece of WWF property shown on screen as they were being sued (and were about to settle) for showing WWF property on WCW programming. C'mon, really?
Are Vince and his lawyers mind readers? Do they know what's going through Eric Bischoff's mind? Again, he wasn't one being sued so why should he care? It would have been just another lawsuit on top the ones they already have. It would've taken years to litigate the whole thing, when WCW went out of business the first cases weren't even settled yet. Hey, if he did once why wouldn't he do it again? Vince could not take that risk.
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Old 08-06-2015, 02:46 PM
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Maybe. But Vince wouldn't risk Bret no-showing the PPV. The whole year was built toward Bret vs. Shawn at Survivor Series and there was no way Vince was going to risk Bret no-showing. Vince's main priority has always been to the fans to give them the match as advertised. You're talking about a guy who paid Warrior half a million dollars to appear at SummerSlam '91. This was without the doubt the second biggest card of the year behind WrestleMania and it would set up next year's WrestleMania. Vince's top priority was getting Bret in that ring on that day. Suing was not an option just days before the PPV.
So what you just said was Vince had to screw Bret at Survivor Series because he couldn't sure if Bret would show up for Survivor Series. Brilliant.

And Vince's lawyers don't have to be mind readers, they just have to be barely competent at their jobs and send WCW a reminder that if they see the WWF title on Nitro it would mean Ted Turner's ass.
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So what you just said was Vince had to screw Bret at Survivor Series because he couldn't sure if Bret would show up for Survivor Series. Brilliant.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

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And Vince's lawyers don't have to be mind readers, they just have to be barely competent at their jobs and send WCW a reminder that if they see the WWF title on Nitro it would mean Ted Turner's ass.
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Perception is reality. Bischoff didn't need the physical belt. All he needed was Bret, still as WWF Champion, signed and under contract with WCW. With Bret signed to a WCW contract, while still WWF Champion, in essence he "had the title" meaning he could go on Nitro had brag to the world that he had the WWF Champion signed, sealed, and delivered to WCW. The PERCEPTION being that the top guy in the WWF was headed to WCW. So the longer Bret kept the title AFTER Survivor Series the more opportunity Eric Bischoff had to hammer home the point that the WWF Champion was coming to WCW. So Vince had no recourse BUT to take the belt off of Bret at Survivor Series BEFORE world leaked out at Bret Hart had signed with WCW.
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I love the idea of changing the main event of Survivor Series 1997 to a four-on-four traditional Survivor Series Elimination tag team match. It’s a pretty interesting concept having 3 Championship Titles on the line.

I would however change the participants and add the old school 80s style team names.

The Heartbreakers – Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Stone Cold Steve Austin, and Mankind
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The Hitmen – Bret The Hitman Hart, Owen Hart, Undertaker and Kane

Doing it this way would cover a few things. This would cover the 3 singles matches that actually took place. This would also give Triple H a match on the card. The Brothers of Destruction storyline would continue at this PPV. The Austin / Foley team would be rekindled.
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