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Old 12-24-2012, 11:51 AM
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Is this only WWE? Because Meltzer actually gave at least one match in ROH 5 stars.

Anyways, just curious.
Just WWE match ratings listed here. Ring of Honor have a few four star plus matches, as do TNA.

And yes, Ring of Honor has a five star match from this year. Davey Richards versus Michael Elgin which for a lot of people who attended both Showdown in the Sun and Wrestlemania, say it truly did make their weekend. Some argue it doesn't deserve the nod because there was no angle leading into it, but their wrong, Ring of Honor built it as small guy versus big guy, future versus present and that is exactly how the match turned out. Great match, highly recommend it.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:57 PM
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Who am I to say. The only thing is in my opinion anything with Lesner is overrated. I am sorry. I just cant stand that moron. Not saying the matches may not of been great but Lesner himself overrated. but I do agree with HHH and Undertaker that was a great match. But the Punk and Jericho were great aswell.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:07 PM
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If you werent in the crowd for Taker HHH at mania I dont think you can truly appreciate it. The crowd was absolutely into the match. hanging on every moment, and it was easily match of the year and absolutely incredible.

I do have to agree with one opinion that Cena Lesnar was kind of too highly rated. it was awesome to see lesnar back but dont think it was over 4 stars.
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Old 12-25-2012, 01:21 AM
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We will never all meet eye to eye with every critic out there, but IMO Dave Meltzer is hands down the best. I actually kept track of my own list of 2012 matches but I have to admit I did not watch TLC, which had two very good matches from the ratings I've seen (not only from Meltzer). I do not have current access to the laptop that I recorded my ratings on, but I can remember most of them. I also agree with the few that say that Taker-HHH was a 5 star match. I know Meltzer is VERY picky with 5 star matches (as he should be) but I am also and still insist this match was 5 stars (I have about 7-8 WWE ***** matches from personal ratings; I believe Meltzer has 5). I'll make it a priority to watch the TLC matches and get back to this forum for my final top 10 list. I would also like to rewatch some matches because I only watched some of them when they were live and from experience, ratings on a match could definitely change after rewatching it (Maybe my opinion on Lesnar-Cena might change because I did not find it to be as great as Meltzer and others thought it was).

I'm leaving some matches out because I either haven't watched them or forget what I rated them. This is also in no specific order:

Triple H vs. Undertaker (WrestleMania) *****
CM Punk vs. John Cena (Night of Champions) ****1/2
CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan (Over the Limit) ****1/2
Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan (Extreme Rules) ****1/4
CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho (Extreme Rules) ****1/4
John Cena vs. The Rock (WrestleMania) ****
John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar (Extreme Rules) ****
CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho (WrestleMania) ****
Raw Elimination Chamber ****
CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan (Raw in January) ***3/4
CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan (SD in February) ***3/4
SmackDown MITB Ladder Match ***3/4
SmackDown Elimination Chamber ***3/4
CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan (MITB) ***3/4
Chris Jericho vs. Dolph Ziggler (SummerSlam) ***3/4
Triple H vs. Brock Lesnar (SummerSlam) ***1/2
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:37 AM
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I have to congratulate the whole WrestleZone community (myself included) for not shitting on an opinion that may differ from our own. It's been a few days now, so I believe it's safe to say we may be turning face.

Meltzer has highlighted a few excellent matches and for all our complaining, 2012 had some great wrestling moments.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:30 AM
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I'd say as always Meltzer isn't far off, I had the WWE PPV matches top ten as...

1)Punk v. Bryan @ OTL - 4.5 stars
2)HHH v. Taker @ WM - 4.5 stars
3)Hell No/Ryback v Shield @ TLC - 4.25 stars
4)Punk v. Cena @ NoC - 4.25 stars
5)Punk v. Bryan @ MITB - 4 stars
6)Cena v. Lesnar @ ExtR - 4 stars
7)Bryan v. Sheamus @ ExtR - 4 stars
8)Punk v. Jericho @ ExtR - 3.75 stars
9)Cena v. Ziggler @ TLC - 3.75 stars
10)Smackdown MITB Ladder Match - 3.75 stars

As for the other high profile Mania matches, I scored Cena/Rock and Punk/Jericho both at three and a half. I can't believe how high some people online are going on those two matches, both had greaat builds, but the matches didn't nearly live up to the hype.

I can't wait for the WON awards this year. It will be nice to see a set of awards picked by experts not fans, as the fan voted lists inevitably turn into a haven for the WWE fanboys. Meltzer and company generally gets things pretty close to correct.

I must say this was a very solid year for match quality across the wrestling world, WWE included. There are some great matches on these lists.
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Old 12-26-2012, 10:38 AM
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Alot of peeps here have their opinions on the Taker vs. HHH WM match. I for one, believe that match is clearly the match of the year. As I said in a different thread, that match wasn't completely perfect, but it was damn near close. I don't know if it was worthy of a 5-star match, but no doubt it's worth at least a 4 1/2 rating. To me, that match was the only good match at WM 28. HHH and Taker put on 1 hell of a show for the fans of the WWE universe. As for Dave Meltzer's rating, I don't really have an interest nor an opinion when it comes down to his system of rating matches. It's his business and not mine so w/e.
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Its a great list. Obviously wrestling is very subjective so your not going to agree with all his match ratings, but I think those are the top 20 matches of the year.

I would of made HHH vs Taker a five star match. Lesnar/Cena match was awesome, but I think its rated a little too high. I would of rated it as a 4 star match.

Ziggler vs Jericho is rated too high. I dont think that should of been higher than a 3.

Their were a lot of good matches this year. Biggest issue right now with the WWE is the writing/storylines are just awful.

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I just finished watching the TLC matches last night and comprised my final list. The only match I have not watched is Orton-Ziggler but I doubt it will break my top 10. Very possible add to my honorable mentions though.

1) The Undertaker vs. Triple H (WrestleMania) *****
2) CM Punk vs. John Cena (Night of Champions) ****1/2
3) The Shield vs. Ryback & Team Hell No (TLC) ****1/2
4) CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan (Over the Limit) ****1/2
5) Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan (Extreme Rules) ****1/4
6) CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho (Extreme Rules) ****1/4
7) John Cena vs. The Rock (WrestleMania) ****
8) CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho (WrestleMania) ****
9) John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar (Extreme Rules) ****
10) John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler (TLC) ****

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Raw Elimination Chamber ****
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CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan (MITB) ***3/4
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Wow, looking at that list it really was a great year for wrestling matches. I usually agree with the way he rates the matches each year. The only thing I would have done is rank Big Show/Sheamus a bit higher as I believe it stole the show at HIAC. It wasn't the best show of the year but still. That match actually surprised me at how good it was. For as much slack as the PG era gets we were treated to some awesome matches this past year. Hope 2013 is more of the same.
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