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Old 04-10-2012, 08:15 AM
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This wasn't a shot at Hogan or TNA. Just like the attitude era everybody is always clamoring for some sort of Monday night wars rehashment but its not coming. Hell in all honesty even if TNA somehow found 10 John Cenas, 5 Goldbergs, and 7 HBKs they still wouldn't be able to compete with WWE becuz everything WWE does wrong TNA seems to find a way to do it 10x worse. Before we take the Sasso skit as a Hogan diss lets first remember that Will was a long time member of the MadTv cast and he's most like done a Hogan impersonation before. This was just Vince booking a celebrity comedy act
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:52 AM
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Ok, I'll say that it was a shot at Hogan, and as a fan who's loathed Hogan's existence since like 1986, I couldn't have been happier. Was it a shot at TNA, no, as so many others have mention, the WWE really doesn't care, this week alone they mentioned UFC (who Brock claimed to self promoted to where it is today), and the Japanese market more than a few times. I'm surprised that we didn't have an angry Hogan response this morning, but, it is early.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:53 AM
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For 1. I don't think Hogan feels disrespected at all. He knows it's all part of the business and it certainly didnt bother me and I'm a huge Hogan fan. 2. The term Hulkamania started in the AWA. Vince brought Hogan in at the last part of 83 after he had been on national tv ( Johnny Carson) explaining what Hulkamania is in 1982. Now Hulk and Vince both benefited from Hogan being in wwe. So Yes Hulkamania was around before he went to WWE I don't think anyone can say Hogan made WWE or WWE made Hogan. It was a partnership that made both Hogan and WWE huge. I would Love to see Hogan back with WWE as an on screen role some how.
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:58 AM
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let me sum this up as eloquently as the topic creator. *clears throat*

HERP A DERP DERP.

Seriously, are we seriously having this discussion? First of all, for there to be a "war" there has to be...oh, I don't know. Serious competition? Right now, comparing TNA to WWE is like comparing the local high school team to the new york yankees

Hogan and TNA DESERVE disrespect, because they're a joke. I'll be honest here, I've tried to struggle through impact as of late. Never made it that far in before I had to go "lol, fuck this." (do watch ring ka king, though) and went to do something meaningful.

TNA has done nothing BUT take shots at WWE, as stated. Team 3D ripped up a contract on live TV. Rhino burned it on live TV. Every Former WWE reject that crawls their way to florida bitches about that "other company" Fortune tried (and failed, miserably) to take a shot at nexus. Eric Bitchoff has taken his fair shots at WWE. the fucking Voodoo Kin Mafia, who's name relied solely on the fact it was VKM so they could declare war on Triple H, Michaels and McMahon

So, in shot You're a moron. This was a jab at Hogan, not Tna and this thread was just a pathetic attempt to get shit stirred up.
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Bullshit. TNA and Hogan especially have been taking pot shots at WWE for years now and nobody says boo about it. But God forbid that WWE take a few shots of their own. After all, it's not as if Hogan hasn't said anything derogatory about WWE the past few years. It's not as if he hasn't publicly stated that he taught Vince McMahon everything he knows.

I remember back when Hogan came to TNA and shots towards WWE were more common. Lots of TNA fans were lapping it up as if the shots were some sort of major victory against WWE. All in all, I don't see this as being anything that won't roll off Hogan's back. If TNA and/or Hogan does take issue with it, then maybe they shouldn't dish it out if they can't take it.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:22 AM
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WWE has some regard for Hogan. Though they may be keeping an eye on them, WWE has very little regard for TNA at this stage in the game. I think extremely few and far between is the case where WWE actually responds to anything TNA does. Vince and company see TNA as a pro-wrestling company at best. Vince sees the WWE as an entertainment juggernaut, a media empire whose crown jewel is a sports entertainment product that borrows from traditional professional wrestling.

In other words, a knock against Hogan (if this was even what that segment on RAW was) does not translate into a shot against TNA. WWE cares about Hogan because he was a former WWF/E performer who is instantly recognizable. WWE would love to have ties with Hogan based on this, as evidenced by his recent appearance in several WWE branded video games. WWE couldn't care less that Hogan is in TNA. They have no regard for what he has done while affiliated with TNA. Hogan sitting on the couch doing nothing is tantamount to Hogan's involvement in TNA as far as WWE is concerned. That's to say, it's a total non-issue.

The segment on RAW was at the very worst, a rib against Hogan. WWE isn't trying to start a war with TNA. Why on earth would they? What would they possibly have to gain? If TNA were to go out of business tomorrow, how does that affect WWE in any measurable or even tangible way?

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Wasn't a TNA star just honoured by the WWE HOF? Ric Flair just appeared on WWE TV and is now the only two time inductee, and I believe the first person inducted while under contract with a rival promotion. If anything, I would hope that VKM would feed the competition a bit and see if he can elevate the WWE even more by having strong competition as he was forced to do during the Monday Night Wars. The post WM RAW showed that there are still very passionate fans who will respond if the product is good, but I fear that TNA has a track record of messing things up when they get the ball rolling (Hulk Hogan is back...again...sigh) and WWE doesn't have the new creative ideas that were evident during the WCW War. A TNA-WWE war doesn't seem likely at all.
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:19 AM
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I really don't think there's anything WWE can do to disrespect Hogan at this point that he hasn't done to himself. And if memory serves me, Hogan ended his last run in WWE (Mr. America) by walking out because he wasn't the top star in the match or something.

Whatever, screw Hogan. I'm glad they made fun of him. It's no worse than years ago when Big Show was coming out as different characters and one of them was Hogan.

Calm down.
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Old 04-10-2012, 10:48 AM
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Will Sasso executed it perfectly last night, down to the movements, the voice, and he sold the chokeslam better.

Do I feel as though you have a legitimate point? Yeah, sure, but it doesn't matter to be honest. WWE created the character and Hogan did bring it to life. Jabs will always happen and at least Sasso didn't disrespect the Hogan character during the bit. I could do armchair analysis on the segment all day but it doesn't matter to be honest. It was good. That's the bottom line.
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You're making a federal case out of nothing. This isn't the first time Vince has taken a shot at Hogan and probably won't be the last. Vince only spoofed Hogan here, not a whole promotion like he did back in the day with the Huckster skits. Like mentioned before, quite a few former WWE stars have taken shots at the company, from Kurt and Anderson to the Dudleys, and that was more of a direct insult. Its true that TNA isn't anywhere near WWE's level in terms of competition and ratings. But I do think that Vince is very aware that they have a big following. But this whole spoof is nothing to get amped up over.
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