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This was it. This was the event that turned me from little kid who liked wrestling because of Hogan and the toys to a fan who understood and followed storylines. I must have watched this a hundred times in 1987. There was a certain electricity in the air that night. I was completely caught up in the drama. You could just feel the hatred between Savage and Honky. It may seem tame now, but Honky shoving Elizabeth down was big time back then. This was followed by the guitar shot and of course the save from Hogan. Superman just joined forces with Batman. I went from flavor of the month fan to fan for life that night.

I notice a lot of these shows have received a low grade. While I understand that I don’t really agree with that. Anyone who watched these today for the first time would probably agree, especially if they weren’t fans 20 years ago. To me they were great. I remember getting excited when these events would randomly pop up. I remember being able to stay up late to watch them. Any little kid loves an excuse to stay up late. Also remember there were only a few ppvs back then so these felt special. So while the action may not have always been great these events always had a fun atmosphere and felt special.
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Well you have to remember that back then prime time TV wasn't an option for the most part. Getting an hour and a half on NBC was huge. Today we get a minimum of 5 hours a week of WWE TV in prime time. Back then 9 hours a year was mind blowing. The rarity that these shows came on in made them far more interesting which was why you got such odd matches. The thing is today they're far worse by comparison. It's far more about the angles than the matches, which is something we're not used to today.
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I agree. That's why the SNME from 2006 and 2007 didn't stand out. With raw, smackdown, and at least 12 ppvs those events are easily forgotten. The ones from the 80s did stand out. At least they did at the time. TV was different back then. Televison was used to build angles to get people to buy tickets to house shows. Now televsion is used to get people to watch televsion next week. I'm not saying that's better or worse, just different. I can see why some would say SNME of the 80s don't hold up over time. That may be true. I have always been able to put myself back in time when watching an old event. If I were to watch that event today it would be 1987 in my mind and I wouldn't compare it to future events. In my opinion it's ok to compare 2010 to 1987 but it's not fair to compare 1987 to 2010 if that makes sense.
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Saturday Night’s Main Event 22
Date: July 29, 1989
Location: Worchester Centrum, Worchester, Massachusetts
Commentators: Vince McMahon, Jesse Ventura

This show is kind of a mess on paper. It has Hogan vs. Honky and the Brain Busters vs. Demolition so the card isn’t that bad, but at the same time there’s nothing here that makes me want to watch the show. It doesn’t look bad but this was a weird time for the company as there was no real challenger to Hogan so we were kind of just waiting around on something to happen, which would take about 6 more months. Let’s get to it.

Savage invites us to a barbecue.

Beefcake says he’ll cut Savage’s hair.

Heenan says the Busters will win the titles.

Demolition says the Busters won’t win the titles.

Honky says he’ll win.

Hogan says he’ll win. Epic promos here indeed.

Theme song is played at this point.

Somehow Honky is #1 contender. How in the world did that happen? We see his greatest hits which is of course a collection of guitar shots before they became clichéd.

Honky says he’s great and that he’ll win while using about 89 Elvis lyrics.

Hogan talks about keeping his priorities straight and how he’s going to beat Honky here.

WWF Title: Hulk Hogan vs. Honky Tonk Man

Even Jesse admits that Hogan is the favorite. You know this is going to be one sided when even he admits to something like that. Honky goes for the guitar shot immediately and of course it doesn’t work. Jimmy goes for Hogan of course and it doesn’t work. That was a big problem I had with WCW Hogan. He and Hart were enemies for years and now they’re best friends?

That just doesn’t work in the slightest. I could watch Honky take atomic drops all day. Jimmy pops Hogan with a guitar to take over for the first time. I’d love to be the guy that made the guitars for wrestling companies. You would be a freaking millionaire.

A guitar and table shop would clean up next door to Titan Towers. Honky hooks a camel clutch that gets him nowhere and Honky is actually in control. The Shake Rattle and Roll connects and Honky dances. Hogan Hulks Up after two and you know the ending. Hogan even throws in a guitar shot and the referee doesn’t seem to care. Hogan’s posing actually goes through a commercial. Wow indeed.

Rating: D. This is your standard Hogan match from this era as Hogan completely dominated. Honky was about a year removed from meaning anything at all here though so it’s not like this really meant much. To be fair though, this was just to get him on TV which worked fine. Match was horrible though.

Ronnie Garvin comes down to be referee for the next match so we see Garvin losing a retirement match to Valentine. This was a long angle that went nowhere and sucked completely. Ah never mind that was just Garvin in general. We get a long video of Garvin being a referee and beating people up. If Garvin does it again he gets suspended.

Greg Valentine vs. Jimmy Snuka

I smell and angle match. Actually I see it as there’s no real smelling aspect to this match but you get the point. It’s a bad sign when I have to explain my own jokes isn’t it? Oh never mind they started. Snuka dominated early but Valentine hits him in the head with his shin guard somehow to take over.

tells me this isn’t going to be very long. Valentine won’t let Snuka back in so Garvin shoves Valentine like an idiot. Wait, he is an idiot so there’s no like to it. He his Valentine and Snuka hits a cross body off the top for the pin. At least it was short so I didn’t have to put up with much of him. Any is too much though so take that for what it’s worth.

Rating: F-. Anything involving Ronnie Garvin is a failure and that’s all there is to it.

We recap Savage vs. Beefcake which started when Savage jumped him on the Brother Love Show.

Savage says he was defending his woman and that he’s doing this to get Hogan’s attention. The main event of Summerslam was Savage and Zeus vs. Hogan and Beefcake so there’s your noticing. Savage says he has a surprise which I’d bet on being tall, bald, black and horrible in the ring.

Brutus says something weird about hair which makes me want to get to the match.

Randy Savage vs. Brutus Beefcake

Was there ever any more awesome music for such a bad wrestler as Brutus’? Brutus has the big hedge clippers of course, which I’ve always wondered what kind of barber would use. OH! Hey I got a joke. Sweet and it only took me 21 years. Damn I feel old now. The bell rings while Savage is in the air after Brutus throws him over the top.

Beefcake hits a standing double axehandle to the head which looked a lot better than it likely was I’m assuming. Ah there we go: Savage is….losing before I can finish typing that. Beefcake was actually becoming decent by this point which is weird to type. There’s the high knee which was one of his finishers at the time but it gets two only.

There’s another one so you can tell he’s running out of offense already. Sherri blasts him in the head with her shoe as he’s in trouble already but she likes hurting people I guess. If that’s the case why not just look at him? This is about as standard of an 80s match as you can ask for.

She takes her stocking off to choke Brutus as Jesse says Liz wouldn’t disrobe at ringside to help, which is odd since Jesse was the referee for that match. Sherri interferes for about the 9th time in 5 minutes and finally gets knocked out by a miscue from Savage. I love the bump Savage takes when he goes over the top to the floor. It’s downright elegant.

Savage sends Sherri to the back to get Zeus. Even Jesse knows what’s going on so you know it’s not that hard to figure out. Beefcake gets the sleeper but Zeus comes in for the DQ. Hogan pounds on Zeus and it doesn’t work. Hogan can’t hurt him and the heels are winning. This might be the end of civilization. Beefcake rakes his eyes and we have a weak spot. Hogan cracks Zeus with a chair and it does nothing. The heels leave but don’t run if that makes sense.

Rating: D+. Not much here as this was all about the angle rather than the match. This was built as more or less the main event of the show if that tells you anything. It wasn’t bad or anything but it’s certainly just them going through the motions to set up the angle where Hogan can’t hurt him at all. This is really basic booking but it works quite well.

Savage, Sherri and Zeus gloat.

Tag Titles: Brainbusters vs. Demolition

So last SNME there was a solid match where the Busters had Demolition in trouble but Demolition got disqualified, intentionally or not is up for debate. Demolition says they’ll demolish them. They’ve held the belts since Mania 4 so it’s been a LONG time, actually the longest reign with the belts ever. This is 2/3 falls mind you. Tully and Axe start us off. I never felt comfortable with the Horsemen in WWF. It just didn’t feel right at all.

It’s ALL Demolition to start which should tell you something. Smash grabs a boot coming down at him which is something straight out of an 80s action movie. Smash apparently has an injured knee. Uh, sure. They just kind of said it was injured and then it isn’t anymore. Ok then. Anderson hits the spinebuster which doesn’t have a name yet. Smash gets a hot shot on Arn for a pin to get the first fall. That came a bit out of nowhere.

After a break it’s time for the second fall. There was no rest though as the perk of SNME was that since it was taped there was no wrestling during the break. As in it would pick up right where it was left off. We get a lot of double teaming on both sides and it gives the heels the advantage. A horrible camel clutch does nothing of note. In the middle of the insanity, Andre comes down and does nothing and Demolition is disqualified for double teaming to tie us up. This is a mess to put it mildly.

Now if Demolition is DQ’ed or counted out here, the titles don’t change hands. The heels do the old British Bulldogs move of ramming one guy’s head into his own partners’ which works well here. Axe takes over again but in a stupid looking moment he hits an atomic drop and rams his head into Arn’s. Both get hot tags though and this needs to end. It’s ANOTHER big mess but Andre throws in a chair for Tully which gets the pin and the titles to end the nearly year and a half reign with the titles for Demolition.

Rating: D. WOW this was a mess. It’s not particularly bad, but we get it: THEY CAN BRAWL. There’s far more brawling in this than wrestling which is rare as hell for this era. The match could have worked as it’s not like the Brainbusters couldn’t wrestle or something like that. This was just a mess the whole time and it didn’t do it for me.

The Heenan Family celebrates and Arn cuts a (of course) great promo saying how they were told they couldn’t do it.

Brutus and Hogan say Zeus is awesome but they’ll be fine. Oh and they want to protect Liz.

And that’s it.

Overall Rating: D. This was just not working for me at all. It’s mainly about Summerslam 89’s main event, but I didn’t like that match so there we are. This didn’t do it for me as it was just a mess all night. There was no direction for the company at the time and they were actually in real financial trouble to the point where they were on the verge of going under. Then Vince had this idea of Hogan vs. Warrior. They weren’t in trouble for long after that. Anyway, the show sucked, avoid it.
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Date: November 2, 1985
Location: Hersheypark Arena, Hershey, Pennsylvania
Commentators: Vince McMahon, Jesse Ventura

This is in between the first and second Manias so you can tell that this isn’t going to be anything really special. The main thing here is that it’s Halloween and Roddy Piper is a jerk. There’s also Hogan and Andre vs. Studd and Bundy which would become one of the more important matches for them in their feud as clips of it were played about a dozen times before Mania. All that being said let’s get to it.

Bobby is getting ready for some contest as the Halloween movie music plays in the background which is a nice touch.

Hogan says it’s going to be a fair fight tonight and Andre agrees.

Roddy Piper is dressed as a superhero and Ventura is proud of how Piper messed up their wedding at the last SNME.

Terry Funk is brand new here, as is some guy named Jimmy Hart. Wow that’s weird to say. Funk says he’ll house train the JYD.

Cue theme song. That song and video made this feel special and it really was. The fans are all dressed as wrestlers which is pretty cool.

We see a clip of Funk beating up a ring attendant while there’s a female referee. Well ok then. Jimmy says that was because of television tricks.

We go to another clip of Funk beating up JYD in Madison Square Garden. Monsoon was great at making things feel epic.

JYD says tonight is his day to get revenge.

Junkyard Dog vs. Terry Funk

Grab Them Cakes is a fun song. I can’t stand the guy but he had cool music. JYD jumps him early on and here we go. Funk gets crotched and I have a bad feeling about this already. Any kind of logic or fairness says Funk wins here. It’s ALL JYD to start here and the reaction is great so I guess something is working here.

Funk grabs Hart, thinking he’s JYD. Didn’t the hair or jacket tip him off at all? I guess not. It’s still all JYD here as he beats up Jimmy. Funk comes back and my faith in the universe is restored. Hart comes in again and drops the Megaphone. You know what comes next I’m assuming. Post match Funk tries to brand JYD but it doesn’t work. JYD steals Jimmy’s pants and brands his ass afterwards.

Rating: D. Pretty weak here as it was about as paint by numbers as you could ask for. Funk got a weird short push around this time as he was a great heel that WWF didn’t really ever capitalize on. To be fair though he was gone soon so it’s not like it really mattered. This was more of a comedy match but the right guy won so my complaints will be limited.

It’s time for round one of the Halloween competitions. The wrestlers in costumes are rather funny. Iron Sheik is Batman of all people. The captains are Heenan and Albano. I wonder who is going to win this, which is a pie eating contest. Hogan is Hercules, Bundy is Abraham Lincoln, Albano is in a toga.

Savage and Liz are Tarzan and Jane (Liz in leopard REALLY works), Volkoff is Robin, Heenan is Davy Crockett, Tito Santana is Zorro, Gene is a pumpkin, the Hillbillies are the 3 Musketeers and this is awesome. Albano is Caesar apparently. Albano vs. Bundy in pie eating. This could cripple the pie market. It’s most consumed in 90 seconds. Albano is declared the winner. That was rather disturbing to watch.

Piper’s Pit

The guests are Hillbilly Jim, Cousin Junior and Cousin Elmer. The latter two were brought in because Jim broke his leg and they wanted to keep the angle going. We recap the last main event where Piper and Ventura were jerks. Piper has ridiculous heat at this point as he was the most evil man alive back in the mid 80s.

Elmer keeps saying things are none of Piper’s business. Piper says it was Ventura that said all those things and Jim calls Ventura out. Here’s the future governor which is just hilarious in hindsight. Damn that ring is huge. Piper shoves Junior over Orton for a school boy thing and it’s on. The Hillbillies get Jesse’s hat and stomp on it.

It’s time for round two: the Pumpkin Dunk. It’s Cousin Junior vs. Heenan. JYD is a mummy. He sucks at that too. It’s like bobbing for apples but in chocolate and with pumpkins. Heenan is whipping that hillbilly ass so far which is weird. Heenan actually wins fairly which is weird as hell. Good freaking night Liz was perfect.

Gene is with Studd, Bundy and Heenan. Heenan brags about his team as he was so good at. The heels say nothing interesting.

Hogan and Andre say they’re ready.

Hulk Hogan/Andre the Giant vs. King Kong Bundy/Big John Studd

Hogan in white is always interesting. This was the main house show main event at the time so you would see this quite often around this time. It’s still Eye of the Tiger for Hogan which is weird as hell to say the least. He’s rocking an Abyss shirt as it says American Made. Who would have thought ripping a shirt off would get such a pop?

Hogan vs. Bundy starts us off. Hogan of course can’t slam him and hurts his back. That lasts less than two seconds and it’s ALL Hogan. Ok make that Andre, called the Big Boss Man here which is something I’ve heard before. I love Andre’s punches since he has to swing down to connect due to his height.

Hogan does the majority of the match due to Andre already being injured. Ventura says he’ll be in a six man on the next SNME with the previously mentioned guys. Andre accidently hits the referee and of course we get a huge brawl. It’s weird when Hogan is the smallest guy in there. Actually it isn’t as he commonly was. Another referee comes in since the original is more or less dead. Vince’s overselling of all this stuff is great. After a commercial we have Studd vs. Andre.

Hogan spits at Studd after knocking him down. What a nice guy. Andre gets tied up in the ropes and Bundy hits the avalanche on Hogan and the double team begins. The referee throws it out as Hogan makes the save. Hogan and Andre win by DQ.

Rating: D. This was a glorified squash as the heels controlled for a combined 9 seconds I think. This was just to have a TV spectacle and nothing more which is fine I guess. It’s a tag team main event match, but this was just different and didn’t work in the slightest. The historical aspect helps it a bit though.

Andre rambles on a lot afterwards and is difficult to understand. I think he wants the pastrami on rye.

We now get the debut of the Land of 1000 Dances video, which for any nostalgic fan like me is must see.

That was just awesome, if nothing else for seeing Bret Hart try to dance.

Gene asks Savage why he has a woman for a manager. Savage says anyone that asks that is blind or stupid. Savage was brand new at this time and wouldn’t mean anything until he made it to the finals of the Wrestling Classic less than a week after this aired. Gene stares at Liz’s ass as she leaves. Can’t blame him.

Intercontinental Title: Randy Savage vs. Tito Santana

Oh hell yes! Liz’s cleavage makes this work. Santana doesn’t even get an intro? These two had some freaking WARS on the touring circuit and they never ceased being awesome. Savage stalls and the heat is GREAT. Savage nails him with a right and Santana looks like he got shot. Was there a point to that clap Savage would do before throwing a back elbow? I always guessed rhythm or something. Damn this is fast paced.

Savage was just completely awesome at this point and Santana wasn’t far behind. You have to keep in mind that Savage was completely revolutionary in what he did. The heels on this show so far are Roddy Piper, Bob Orton, Terry Funk, Bundy and Studd. None of them are incredibly athletic guys. Piper was more of a talker than a wrestler at this point, Funk was brand new, Orton was a bodyguard that occasionally wrestled and Bundy and Studd were Bundy and Studd.

Savage came out there as this small guy that was completely insane and could go move for move with guys like Santana. He was a completely new kind of heel as he had a mean streak but wrestled like a face but with insane speed. He was exciting yet deadly, which made him AWESOME. Liz didn’t hurt either, as women managers simply didn’t happen that often, at least not in WWF.

Savage runs away and catches Santana coming back into the ring and the fight is on on the floor. Savage goes for a piledriver out there, channeling his inner Memphis. It’s a double count out to set up the final blowoff match I believe in Boston where Savage won the title about three months later, holding it until he lost it to Steamboat.

Rating: B-. Short but exciting as hell. These two are another pair of guys with mad chemistry together and this was no exception. This is another of those matches that you simply can’t screw up, even in a 4 minute TV match. It was another of their many battles and while it’s not great, some of their others were utterly fantastic.

Mr. Fuji makes funny sound effects and grinds his knuckles into his head.

Steamboat breaks cinder blocks and wood. There’s a Kung Fu Challenge coming up.

We go to Roddy Piper’s house to see how he spent Halloween. Piper is making candy apples out of bowling balls and chocolate out of bricks. Piper is completely insane here and it’s hilarious. He looks like the villain in a decent comedy/horror movie. Some kids come up and Piper HAS to be on coke here.

No one could talk this fast otherwise. One of the kids is dressed as Hogan. Piper drops bowling balls in their candy bags and steals some of their candy. He’s COMPLETELY insane here and then it turns out the kids give him chocolate covered red peppers. This was funny yet oddly creepy.

Hogan thinks it was funny.

Fuji is ready for the Kung Fu Challenge.

We see a clip of Steamboat being hanged by Fuji and Muraco. Steamboat says nothing of note.

Mr. Fuji vs. Ricky Steamboat

There are different rules here apparently. Don’t worry: they’re not important or anything since we aren’t told what they are. Basically it’s an overly long striking contest with little of note to it. Steamboat hits a missile dropkick from the top for the win. Muraco and Fuji beat up Steamboat afterwards.

Rating: N/A. This was definitely something different so I’ll give them points for that. That doesn’t mean it’s good or anything though.

It’s time for the finals of the Halloween Games. This is the Pumpkin Pass where you have a line of guys and you put a pumpkin under your chin and between your chest and pass it to the next guy and so on and so forth. Furthest down the line wins. The faces allegedly cheat but there’s no proof of it. HOGAN FUCKS IT UP!

They score five passes. The heels then go and have Roddy with them, apparently giving them an advantage somehow. The heels keep covering things up with capes and we get an upskirt shot of Liz as we more or less see her in a bikini. Oh yes. They only get four and therefore the faces win. Savage blames Liz of course.

Vince and Jesse close us out as Monster Mash plays in the background.

Overall Rating: C+. This is FAR more about comedy here than anything else but it had that 1980s charm to it that worked pretty well. Again the wrestling is freaking bad but to be fair it wasn’t supposed to be that kind of show. There was no direction here so they improvised and it worked well I thought. Not really recommended, but the comedy is solid and they didn’t try to be anything impressive here, which made this work I think.
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Saturday Night’s Main Event 11
Date: May 2, 1987
Location: Edmund P. Joyce Center, Notre Dame, Indiana
Commentators: Vince McMahon, Jesse Ventura

It’s the first big show after Mania 3 so Hogan isn’t wrestling. Don’t you just love the brilliance in the booking here? There really isn’t a big match on the card but it’s late 80s WWF so how bad can it be? We’re getting low on shows left here so savor these while you can. This is the first one ever sans Hogan so really savor it while you can. Let’s get to it.

Savage is going to get back at Steele for costing him the IC Title at Mania. It’s a lumberjack match.

Steamboat says he’ll melt Hercules’ chains.

Harts vs. Bulldogs tonight for the titles.

Duggan says no singing for Volkoff tonight.

Heenan says Andre is the real champion.

Hogan says he’s the real champion.

They should bring back the whole only show guys fighting tonight intros. It’s a great idea.

We see clips of “earlier today” where Heenan got beaten up by Ken Patera after a debate and has a bad neck because of it.

Kamala is of course afraid of snakes so he’s got Roberts tonight. Fuji says it’s no problem.

After a clip of the Snake Pit from a few months ago, Roberts says Damien wants Kamala.

Kamala vs. Jake Roberts

The snake clears things out immediately. WWF should have paid for a snake fear seminar or something given how afraid half the roster was of them. Well not Kamala though as he just completely sucks. He scared me to death when I was a kid though so he can do whatever he wants. Jake gets out of a bearhug by stomping on Kamala’s foot. That’s just mean.

Vince wants to know about Kamala’s dental plan. Was there a face commentator that could stay on the match for more than 8 seconds in this era? This is a pretty basic match with Kamala dominating before Jake makes a short comeback. Kim Chee, Kamala’s other manager, runs in and blasts Jake in the back of the head and a splash ends Jake. Chee unmasks as Honky Tonk Man for a beatdown on Jake.

Rating: D. Not much at all here. This was just to do the ending angle which is odd as Honky won at Mania and yet he’s the one continuing the feud. Anyway, Kamala was always pretty awful and this was no exception. Just a boring match all around and nothing of note at all.

Randy Savage vs. George Steele

It’s a lumberjack match, some of which are the Harts and Bulldogs. George does one of his promos that is interesting if nothing else. Honky and Chee are lumberjacks too. Steamboat comes in with Steele again as Gene tries to explain how a lumberjack match works. Steamboat will be in his corner. Hacksaw, Hercules and a bunch of other unimportant guys are the lumberjacks. No one out of the ordinary.

These two feuded for well over a year and this actually is the final match in the rivalry, or at least the last major one. Savage says he’s forever the champion in a typical promo for him. I wish I could yell at Liz and tell her to go down. That aisle of course. It’s weird to think that Savage would be the second biggest face in the company in like 6 months. Steele does the Hogan YOU in an odd moment.

We hit the brawl and Duggan chases Sheik and Volkoff into the ring with the board and gets thrown out as a result. Steele takes over and eats a turnbuckle instead of going after Savage. After some more insanity, Danny Davis comes in and pops Steele with the bell. The elbow ends it. Everyone goes at it afterwards. Jake and the snake clear the ring as he goes after the real Kim Chee in some nice continuity.

Rating: D+. Still a bad match but the insanity makes it more fun. This was fine for what it was which was a catalyst the big brawl at the end. This was a weird kind of match that always seemed to work for some reason. Again it’s nothing great at all but it was ok for a 6 minute TV match.

Heenan and Andre have a sit down interview where they say they have film proof of Hogan losing to Andre. They show the opening of the match of the slam where Hogan almost didn’t get out in time. It really is close and Heenan actually has a point: from the referee’s vantage point, Marella couldn’t see Hogan’s arm pop up but called it a two anyway. This would fuel the main event up to Mania 4.

As the Bulldogs come in, Jesse says he isn’t sure now. This was a twist as most of the time he would be on Andre’s side the entire time. Him being unsure made this seem like something could be up.

The Hart Foundation says they’ll get the Bulldogs and end it tonight. Davis jumps Gene for no apparent reason.

Tag Titles: Hart Foundation vs. British Bulldogs

This is 2/3 falls. Before the match Hart gets bitten by Matilda which looks cool for obvious reason. Davey and Bret start us off. It’s interesting that Anvil is by far and away the worst wrestler in there and he’s hardly terrible. He’s not particularly good but he’s certainly watchable. The Harts are champions here and this is the official rematch for when Davis cheated to give them the titles.

The heels dominate early as they’re not doing much of note here. It’s fine though, mainly based on just pure raw talent. Dynamite and Bret crank things up a bit. The crowd is way into this too so they have that going for them. The champions get to double team Dynamite and the champions get disqualified eventually, making it 1-0 Bulldogs.

This really isn’t all that great of a match but it’s not terrible. Davey chases like five people around the ring as it looks like a weird comedy skit. I need some Benny Hill music in there somewhere. Bret goes for a cross body on the ropes and winds up getting the crotch from hell. Hot tag to Smith and it’s on all over again. He gets the delayed vertical on Neidhart which is rather impressive.

Vince gets PISSED at Jesse, telling him to shut up. Now that’s your Mania match right there. Tito pops Davis for a huge pop and then Kid is picked up and thrown at Bret for a cross body to win in two straight falls to blow the fucking roof off the place. Jesse laughs because the first fall was a DQ so no title switch. They would switch that in 89 so the Brainbusters could win the belts. Holy Dusty Finish Batman.

Rating: B-. Fun match but the ending hurts it a lot. These teams always worked quite well and this was definitely no exception. The ending was a nice way to get the fans going and also to continue the feud since now it’s clear that the Bulldogs can beat them. Strike Force would jump in soon and win the belts, taking the Can-Am Connection’s spot after Zenk went insane.

Hogan says that he was telling Andre that he wasn’t afraid of him. They only show stills of the slam. Of course if you want to see the most famous move in wrestling history, BUY THE TAPE!

Ricky Steamboat says he’s going to burn Hercules and isn’t afraid of Heenan.

Intercontinental Title: Hercules vs. Ricky Steamboat

We see a clip of Savage in the back watching the match and cutting this insane promo about wanting the title back. Gene standing there is funny in some weird way. Savage cheers for Steamboat so that he can take the title from Steamboat. Hercules dominates early on but there is about as much chance of a title change as there is of TM getting admin. I need a minute to recover from that thought.

Hercules gets the Full Nelson and here comes Savage to break it up so that he can take the title from Steamboat. This planted some very small seeds of a face turn for him later on down the line. After Mania he was far too over to continue being a heel that much longer. Hercules goes for a top rope splash and eats knees. Heenan hands Hercules the chain and of course gets disqualified in a freaking stupid looking moment. Savage pretends to help him up and then drops the elbow on him just to be a dick.

Rating: D+. Not much here at all and really just a continuation of the Savage/Steamboat feud which was aborted soon after this so that Honky got the belt. I think Steamboat said he wanted to take some time off for his son being born and Vince flipped over it, causing Honky’s year plus title reign. Anyway, this was just a little TV match that set up an angle.

Duggan has a ticket (the size of a stamp) and is in the front row, promising that no one can sing the Russian anthem here. I’ve always wondered if someone got a second row seat instead of front.

Sheik and Volkoff and Slick say you’re denying their freedom of speech.

Can-Am Connection vs. Iron Sheik/Nikolai Volkoff

He tries to sing and gets hit in the head with a 2x4. Isn’t that called massive assault? Zenk and the Sheik start us off. Duggan, after BASHING VOLKOFF IN THE HEAD WITH A BOARD just sits right back in the front row. Sheik gets a good abdominal stretch on Sheik. This show needs to end. Duggan runs in AGAIN and Martel rolls up Sheik for the pin.

Rating: N/A. This was just insanity and nothing at all of note. Then again it’s the end of the show so it’s not like anyone was watching here anyway.

Overall Rating: D+. Well they definitely did a good job of setting up the angles but the wrestling is more or less horrible. Then again they’re likely still trying to breathe after Mania anyway so it’s understandable. They really didn’t have anything to do until the fall anyway so don’t expect much here. Take a pass.
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Saturday Night’s Main Event 23
Date: October 14, 1989
Location: Riverfront Coliseum, Cincinnati, Ohio
Commentators: Jesse Ventura, Vince McMahon

This is more or less the buildup show for Survivor Series which meant very little. The main attraction here is Hogan vs. DiBiase for the belt which never got the big match treatment but could have drawn a ton of money with DiBiase as champion and Hogan chasing him. Other than that it’s pure Survivor Series stuff which is fine. Let’s get to it.

Piper says he’s going to make Haku cry.

Savage and Sherri say they’re going to give royal pain to Snuka.

The Bushwackers are happy to be on national TV.

DiBiase and Zeus are ready for Hogan.

Hogan has millions of fans to match millions of dollars.

I firmly believe that the awesomeness of this theme song could rival that of Mr. T, Hulk Hogan and Chuck Norris being in the same room at once.

We see Savage getting the crown after beating Duggan. He would hold that for about a year and a half.

Savage gives his first interview where he proclaims his amazingness.

Randy Savage vs. Jimmy Snuka

Is that a squash I smell? The throne being carried out by jobbers was always a great sight. Snuka says he has no king or queen. Savage jumps him to start and it doesn’t go that well for him. He dominates as I wonder why Snuka was so popular. He just wasn’t that good of a worker and had one big move. I guess he was popular as hell though so it’s hard to really complain with him being up there.

Snuka makes his comeback and gets Savage in the Tree of Woe which is a new thing at the time. Why do so many faces kiss heel managers? Snuka doesn’t do it but he looks like he might and it’s just a weird idea for some reason. The loaded purse to Snuka ends this. What could have been in there? Savage beats him up more after the match but misses the elbow.

Rating: D+. This was short and not very good. It’s a late 80s match so it can only be so good though. It was just to let Macho get a win as king and since Snuka was more or less a jobber to the stars at this point it fits pretty well. Savage was perfect for this roll and his mild insanity helped a lot.

We recap Zeus vs. Hogan, which went more or less nowhere. The cage match that blew it off was in December I think.

DiBiase says he only gets the best, despite Zeus never winning a match.

Gene and Hulk try to explain the Zeus angle and it just doesn’t work at all. I’m still trying to figure out how it was supposed to make sense. He goes into this big business-related promo that goes way over the heads of most kids I’m betting. He also talks about God a bit, calling him the big check signer in the sky.

WWF Title: Hulk Hogan vs. Ted DiBiase

Hogan fights him off early but Zeus keeps distracting him. I’d be distracted by the big bald man with a Z on his head too. Hogan punches DiBiase but the referee pulls Hogan’s hair to get him off. Well that’s a new one. How do wrestlers survive being choked so long? Roberts comes out to even out Zeus somehow. DiBiase takes over and his elbow drops look weird too.

Jake was on Hogan’s Survivor Series team in case you’re wondering about the connection. Virgil grabs his snake though to distract Jake. I’m not sure I want Virgil grabbing my snake. Oh come on I had to do that one. DiBiase is fun to watch when he jumps. I don’t remember a heavyweight being that smooth every time like that. They try to do a spot where Zeus is supposed to hit Hogan as he hits the ropes. Somehow Zeus can’t get this right either which is just kind of pathetic.

They repeat the thing which doesn’t look good at all but at least he managed to time it right this time. Hogan starts to Hulk Up but Zeus comes in and hooks the arm on the punch, which somehow doesn’t get a DQ. Hogan dodges a clothesline and rolls up DiBiase for the pin. We get the showdown that was supposed to headline Mania 6 at one point until DiBiase puts the Million Dollar Dream on him. Jake makes the save.

Rating: C-. Not bad here but Hogan vs. DiBiase is never a bad thing. This was more about Hogan vs. Zeus though as DiBiase hasn’t really meant much in about a year or so. It was a glorified buildup for Survivor Series and that’s all that it was supposed to be. One thing does occur to me: why are we clamoring for a Hogan vs. Zeus match when Zeus lost the showdown with Rip in the end of No Holds Barred? We’ve already seen it and we know the ending.

We do a recap of Piper vs. The Heenan Family, which is mainly Rude. Tonight he has Haku, who Heenan says they’ll enjoy themselves tonight.

Piper talks about fixing the weasel and how he’s not going to hit Haku in the head because that isn’t going to work. See, Piper was SMART.

Roddy Piper vs. Haku

This is Piper’s first match back after his retirement about two and a half years earlier. Of course he’s insanely popular because of it which is an unwritten rule of retirements in wrestling. Piper in red elbow pads is a weird look. It’s ALL Piper to start as his hands are ridiculously fast. Naturally he goes for the head just as he said he wouldn’t, likely to mess with their heads a bit.

Haku makes a comeback once Piper chases Heenan. I’ll put the over/under at a minute for this to work. Yep there’s the missed splash to end the comeback. Piper hits a suplex of all things to get the pin. Piper could win with anything and that was always something I liked about him.

Rating: C-. Short but they got a lot of stuff in there. This was about as clear of an ending as you could have asked for, but it got Piper his comeback win which was a huge thing. This did its job very well and got the crowd happy so there we are. Also, anyone find it funny that Piper rebelled against Hollywood in the Rock N Wrestling Connection and then left to join in 2-3 years later?

DiBiase yells at Roberts and says he’ll get him, which he never really did. Zeus yells about Hogan.

Rick Martel, with Slick of all people (I don’t remember that at all) says this feud with Santana will never be over. That’s the absolute truth as they feuded for about a year and a half. Slick talks about having backup.

Rick Martel vs. Tito Santana

Martel comes out with Jimmy Hart, Boss Man, Akeem and Honky. Santana says he has his own backup, which perfectly is his Survivor Series team. That would be Red Rooster, Rhodes and Beefcake. If this match sounds odd to you, Akeem wasn’t at the PPV and was replaced by Bad News Brown. I think he was fired but I’m not sure.

The go right for it and I could watch Martel sell atomic drops all day. This is more or less a glorified lumberjack match with 6 guys not counting managers around the ring. They do some basic stuff and here are Dusty and Boss Man to try to get in and fight. Another refere comes down to help get the people out of the ring and we take a break.

Martel beats him up for a bit. Can we just get to the big brawl already? Vince of course thinks a two is a three as this is a longer match than I expected. Martel goes up but Santana channels his inner Warrior and shakes the ropes to get him down. And there it goes as all 8 guys come in and it’s all thrown out.

Rating: B-. Better than I expected here as they gave this a lot of time, although the ending was far too predictable for it to really mean anything. This was a backdrop for setting up the whole big brawl at the end which is just fine. It’s nice to see a good match to bridge the gap which is what we got here.

Piper talks about wanting the Heenan Family and namely Rude.

Rougeau Brothers vs. Bushwackers

Yeah it’s the catchiest theme song in a long time as the Rougeaus are here for what has to be a quick one as we’re almost out of time. The wacking is always great. They start early as we have 6 minutes left in the tape and a Hogan statement promised. The good guys chase Jimmy around and there go his pants. He’s wearing Rougeau underwear with the Fleurs-de-lis on it. That does make me wonder if when he’s managing Honky if he wears ones that say Love Me Tender on his ass.

The heels control early but a missed high knee ends that. Hot tag to Luke and the dominance is on. The gutbuster ends it soon thereafter.

Rating: N/A. Just a filler match to end things here.

Hogan talks about the fans cheering for him when Zeus hurt his neck. Oh and hey there’s a PPV where these two will be fighting rather soon. What a coincidence!

Vince and Jesse wrap things up.

Overall Rating: C. For a show that’s supposed to be hyping the Survivor Series, there’s not a lot of talk about the, you know, Survivor Series here. They did a good job about setting up the PPV but they didn’t really talk much about it. This was a weird one as it’s like they were trying to hype a show and then were scrambling to remember the name of it. Good show, but just a weird bit of stuff going on in the overall concept.
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Saturday Night’s Main 2
Date: October 5, 1985
Location: Meadowlands Arena, East Rutherford, New Jersey
Commentators: Vince McMahon, Jesse Ventura

We’re back for the sequel here and the main thing is a legit wedding between Uncle Elmer and his real life fiancé. We also have Orndorff and Piper in their fallout match from the original Mania. Hogan defends the title and we have a big blood feud with Orndorff and Piper too. Let’s get to it.

Volkoff says he’ll win the title tonight and then will push the button and destroy us all.

Hogan says America has nothing to worry about.

Hillbilly Jim and Uncle Elmer aren’t worried. Piper comes in to make fun of them. The theme song cuts him off.

Vince runs down the card while Jesse says nothing for awhile.

WWF Title: Hulk Hogan vs. Nikolai Volkoff

I love the smelled of squashed Russians in the morning. After a long national anthem, here’s Hulk. He promises to win and keep the title and defend America. He comes out to Stars and Stripes Forever here in a nice touch. It’s a standard Hogan 80s match vs. a monster as Hogan gets jumped early but then makes his amazing comeback. Hogan knocks him over the top and Volkoff’s ass rings the bell.

A ram into the post though has the powers of Russia in the lead and Hogan is in trouble. Jesse isn’t talking much at all here. Volkoff slams him and Hogan makes his comeback and finishes with a spinning legdrop. Yes I said spinning. Hogan spits on the flag and uses it to shine his shoes.

Rating: C. This was a run of the mill Hogan match which is what this was supposed to be. It got Hogan on national TV and let him beat up someone that most people were going to naturally boo. This is the epitome of what SNME was supposed to be about in the old days and it worked very well.

Hogan says he’ll get Volkoff again if he has to and calls him baby doll. He plugs the wedding too.

The Hillbillies say they aren’t worried at all.

Jerry Valiant vs. Uncle Elmer

Elmer and Cousin Luke were brought in since Jim broke him leg. After some dancing, Elmer literally just slams him and lays on him for the pin in like 6 seconds. Well that was short. We show the Bundy match that set the “9 second record” which if you have a watch on you can tell is more like 21 or so.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is here. Well ok then. That’s the extent of camera time he gets and it’s the side of his head. It’s clearly him though and they mention his name.

Body Shop

This is Jesse’s interview show and the guest is Heenan. He has a bounty on Orndorff’s head for firing him which I don’t think was ever collected. This is like a minute long.

Orndorff says Heenan just made things complicated for himself and says Piper won’t collect it.

Piper says he doesn’t need the money and that he’s pretty. He makes fun of Elmer which isn’t that hard to do.

Paul Orndorff vs. Roddy Piper

This was on the SNME DVD which is well worth buying. Piper has ANOTHER Scottish band with him. Big feud here as these two had been partners against Hogan but they blamed each other for the loss at Mania, resulting in Orndorff turning face eventually and then turning heel again to light the company on fire including a 60,000 person house show in Toronto.

This is a total brawl and not resembling a match in the slightest. They just beat the hell out of each other with punches, kicks and chokes. To be fair though that’s what this is supposed to be so they’re hitting the mark on that front. We hit the floor maybe a minute and a half in and it’s just nuts. Today this isn’t much but at this time it’s a big old brawl. Orndorff busts out a suplex and Jesse points out it’s the first wrestling move.

The referee puts the fastest ten count in recorded history on them but they’re both up. We hit the floor again and the fans are into this. We head up the aisle for the double countout which is the right thing to do. This never got a proper blowoff for some reason which is a shame. They fight into the back and Piper hides in a locker room as we go to a break.

Rating: C+. From a wrestling perspective this is awful but from a brawling perspective this was great. The idea was to just have these two want to kill each other and that’s how it went. This was one of the hottest feuds possible and it worked very well in that sense. It was a good brawl but FAR too short to be great.

We do the wedding with the wrestlers in their gear. If I remember right this was a legit wedding. I wonder if this is the dry run for the PPV wedding that Vince wanted to do for Stephanie. Vince is doing commentary on a wedding of all things. Oh and the groom is called Uncle Elmer as the minister.

Elmer can’t hear the minister and keeps fumbling over his lines. Jesse is cracking up over this and is clearly having a blast with this. We get to the end and Piper can’t hold his peace. Well you knew this was coming. Hogan, in a sleeveless shirt, glares at Piper and gets him to leave and there’s the end of it. This was just kind of odd as he was a total comedy character and this was a HUGELY hyped segment. I still don’t get this.

Heenan, who fell at his home recently and is badly hurt, says Bundy and Studd will beat Andre and Atlas.

Big John Studd/King Kong Bundy vs. Tony Atlas/Andre the Giant

The heels cut Andre’s hair and beat him up in Toronto so he picked some random partners to try to fight back. By the way that’s Abraham Washington’s Tony Atlas in there. Andre and Bundy start and the bigger fat man is MAD. He rams Bundy’s head into Atlas’ which is kind of mean but whatever. Somehow Atlas, a big old man, is the smallest in this match by far.

He gets beaten down and the splash from Bundy half kills him. Andre and Studd……uh…….I guess you could call it fight. Everything goes insane and Andre gets the hell beaten out of him. I think the match has been thrown out. Oh and Atlas got posted so he’s out. AND HERE COMES HULK! The faces clean house as Andre and Hogan begin their year and a half long angle that would culminate at Mania in Detroit.

Rating: D. Match was awful, but this was about starting a huge angle. Now at the time no one knew how big, but this is a very historic moment no matter how you look at it. Andre and Atlas win apparently, I’d guess by DQ.

Hogan says he has something planned but won’t say what.

We go to a zoo with Gene who is looking for George Steele who recently turned face. We see clips of his turn and go on a comedic tour of the zoo. He sees a camel and says it’s Sheik. There’s also a clip of an absolutely hilarious bit from Tuesday Night Titans where Captain Lou gave him electroshock therapy and he became normal for a bit. Then they fried him again and he became Steele one more time.

George imitates an elephant. He’s then asked what kind of a tiger they have here. George’s answer: Detroit. We see some lemurs which are half monkey and half weasel. Their name is Bundy apparently. Hippos resemble Bundy which is kind of funny. This is a lot cuter than it sounds.

We get clips of the Dream Team stealing the tag titles from Windham and Rotundo (Husky Harris’ dad).

Tag Titles: Tony Garea/Lanny Poffo vs. Dream Team

Beefcake and Valentine in case you’re a young gun. This is the standard dominating first title defense on SNME where there was no chance of the titles changing hands. Only once did a title ever switch on this show and it wasn’t until 1989 when the Brain Busters beat Demolition in a shocker. Poffo, more famous as the Genius, busts out a moonsault which is a huge spot back in the day. I think he debuted it in the company but I’m not sure.

Poffo was a jobber to the stars and Garea used to be a tag champion way back in the day. The crowd is kind of dead here as this has been a long show but then again there was rarely anything of note at the end of these shows. I usually can’t stand the ads everywhere but I really want a Coke given that sign up there. The US Express, the former champions, are in the front row. Figure Four ends this glorified squash.

Rating: D. Nothing at all of note here but to say they weren’t shooting for a classic is an understatement. This was short and relatively painless as it’s only about three and a half minutes long. Nothing terrible here but boring for the most part.

We go to the back for the reception of Elmer’s wedding. Hogan, Orndorff, Vince and Jesse are at a table together and only Orndorff doesn’t look like an idiot. Jesse is writing a poem and won’t shut up at all. This is your usual insanity of an 80s gathering of wrestlers. Poffo, all sweaty and in his tights, reads a poem.

There’s a special guest: Tiny Tim. He was a weird non-celebrity that played the ukulele and was married on TV for no apparent reason. No one ever got the point of him but he played a song called Tiptoe Through the Tulips. Elmer sings a song for a few minutes and then Jesse reads a poem bashing the whole thing. He gets beaten up and thrown into the cake.

Hogan/Andre vs. Bundy/Studd is announced for next time to close the show.

Overall Rating: D. This was pretty weak with no particularly good matches or anything like that. I’m not sure if the wedding was supposed to be a funny bit or not but nothing ever really made me laugh in it. It took up nearly a third of the show counting the reception and nothing at all of it was funny. It was supposed to be tongue in cheek I guess but it never clicked. Bad show but they didn’t know what they were doing yet so that’s a bit excusable I guess. Pass on this though.
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Saturday Night’s Main Event 18
Date: November 26, 1988
Location; ARCO Arena, Sacramento, California
Commentators: Vince McMahon, Jesse Ventura

We’re in the middle of Savage’s title reign here and tonight he defends against Andre. That’s a match that you don’t get that often but it sounds interesting if nothing else. This was a time where we were just getting ready for Hogan vs. Savage to set up Mania 5 which was kind of disappointing. Also on this show is the Super Ninja, who contrary to popular belief was NOT the Great Muta. You can tell that by the size difference if nothing else. Let’s get to it as I try to get done with SNME today.

Warrior says he’s going to go to war with Super Ninja and Mr. Fuji.

Heenan and Andre say they’re going to win the world title back.

Savage isn’t worried about Andre.

DiBiase doesn’t believe in Thanksgiving but only buying and selling like he did with Hercules.

Hogan talks about Thanksgiving and being on Brother Love’s Show.

The theme song wants you to know that it’s awesome.

Jesse wants top billing since we’re in Hollywood which is his town.

Fuji says he’ll win and makes a Pearl Harbor reference. Ninja is apparently a master of the seven arts. Would that include watercolors?

Warrior says he’s seen an unseen enemy. I love these promos as they were definitely entertaining.

Intercontinental Title: Super Ninja vs. Ultimate Warrior

Ninja looks like Spawn. The comic book character, not the annoying poster. Ninja goes after him and nothing at all works. Warrior gets a leapfrog and I’m not sure if I believe it or not. Vince talks about horse manure ice cream. Go ahead and try to convince me that he wasn’t on drugs. Total squash here that last two minutes or so and the splash ends it. Ninja was never seen again.

Rating: N/A. Not sure what the point of this was as Warrior could have beaten someone better than this just as easily without having to bring in some random guy that was never heard from again. Whatever though.

We recap Heenan selling Hercules’ contract to DiBiase which turned Herc face as DiBiase kept calling him a slave.

DiBiase says Hercules isn’t being American because he’s turning down the business deal that was made. Virgil gets Hercules tonight.

Hercules says he’s a free man.

Virgil vs. Hercules

Anyone else think this is a squash in the making? Back from a break and the heels are jumping Hercules. This works about as well as Rogaine worked for Virgil and the fans are on fire for this actually. I love knee lifts for some reason. I always have. We’re about a minute and a half in and Virgil hasn’t had a single shot yet. Apparently this is for Hercules’ freedom. A powerslam ends it. TOTAL domination here.

Rating: N/A. This somehow never led to Hercules vs. DiBiase. I’m not sure why they never had a proper blowoff but it could be due to the lack of talent from Hercules. This was just kind of odd as Virgil got totally squashed and it wasn’t even close. Just odd.

Twenty minutes so far and nothing but squashes.

We see Andre having a heart attack due to Jake and the snake last time.

Heenan and Andre insist that Andre is champion.

Savage says if Hogan can do it, he can do it. We have a huge world title match and it becomes about Hogan somehow. Why am I not surprised at all?

WWF World Title: Randy Savage vs. Andre the Giant

Savage runs at him like a crazy man and of course it doesn’t work at all. Andre was a shell of his former shell and couldn’t really do anything other than bare bones stuff by this point but damn he was trying. This is all Andre to start as Savage tries stupid things that never work in the slightest.

A short comeback gets him nowhere other than ticking Andre off. FINALLY he wakes up and goes to the air which actually works and he beats Andre down. Here’s Jake to distract Andre and Heenan. Savage makes Jake leave which is a weird moment for some reason. Jake’s height always is tricky. The match loses anything resembling focus as Heenan looks for the snake.

After a few minutes he finally finds it and Jake comes down again….resulting in a double DQ? Andre is in the ropes and Bobby gets beaten up. The snake is busted out but Heenan gets his out of there just in time. Savage seems cool with the whole costing of the match by Jake. Ah maybe he isn’t. The 80s were always confusing.

Rating: D. The opening stuff was good but as soon as Jake came out this became a circus and not the kind with the cool freaky clowns or bearded lady that resembled my aunt John. This was just a mess and never went anywhere at all. Savage vs. Andre could have been a bit match but it gets like 8 minutes where the focus was on Jake than anything else.

Duggan isn’t worried about Bravo in his flag match vs. Zhukov.

Boris Zhukov vs. Jim Duggan

This is a flag match where the winner gets to wave the flag. Other than that it’s a regular match though. They slug it out and Duggan wins of course, as Jesse points out that punching him in the head isn’t going to get him anywhere. Boris beats on Duggan but that does nothing at all. Short comeback and then the three point clothesline ends it.

Rating: N/A. Another two minute squash. Is this a theme or something tonight? Yet again this went nowhere at all and had absolutely no point. Vince crying at the presenting of the flag is kind of funny though.

We recap Boss Man beating up Hogan on Brother Love’s show which was the filler feud until Mania happened and Hogan got his real feud. It was a pretty good beating though.

Brother Love Show

The guest is Hogan. Love always scared me to death back in the day. He was just freaky as hell. Instead of Hogan he brings out Slick. Hogan is PISSED and overacts beyond belief. We get to hear Jive Soul Bro as a consolation prize, making this show substantially better. Ah here’s Hulk. Nothing Love says means anything here as we’re just waiting on Boss Man to come in.

Love asks Hogan questions but keeps cutting him off before he can answer over and over again. He lets Slick answer because something tells me he’s not a nice person. Slick is as tall as Hogan. Never would have guessed that. The look on Hogan’s face is great actually as he’s not used to BLATANT DISRESPECT like this. Finally Hogan just grabs the mic and yells a lot.

Hogan talks about how fake Love is. This is going absolutely nowhere and I’m bored out of my mine. Hulk talks about being a judge and sentencing Love for something or other. He finally beats up Slick and Love. No Boss Man or anything which makes this a HUGE waste of time. Love gets handcuffed somewhere in there. Moving on.

The Rougeaus say they’re American citizens now. They live in Memphis now and say they’re American Boys. Damn I could go for that theme song of theirs.

Young Stallions vs. Fabulous Rougeau Brothers

Considering we have 9 minutes left in the show, something tells me this is going to go this fast. The Stallions never were anything other than jobbers and I can’t imagine this is going to be anything else. How in the world did Roma become a Horseman? I will never understand that and I don’t think anyone else will. Powers ducks a cross body to finally break the dominance and makes the tag. Everything goes insane and the Rougeaus hit their finisher to end this. It went nowhere at all and it wasn’t supposed to.

Rating: N/A. An up and coming heel team beat a jobbing team. What did you expect this to be?

Andre says he’ll get the title and he’ll get Jake. Andre grabs Jesse twice and is a damn scary looking man.

Jake says he’s smart or something. I don’t care a bit at this point.

Hogan says being the executioner turned him on. GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY!

Overall Rating: F+. This was AWFUL. I know I don’t have many of these left but this was something I just wanted to end the entire time. There isn’t a good match to be found nor is there anything that meant anything. This was almost like a house show card but not a good one at all. Just flat out terrible and I was just counting down the time until it ended.
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Paul Orndorff vs. Roddy Piper

This was on the SNME DVD which is well worth buying. Piper has ANOTHER Scottish band with him. Big feud here as these two had been partners against Hogan but they blamed each other for the loss at Mania, resulting in Orndorff turning face eventually and then turning heel again to light the company on fire including a 60,000 person house show in Toronto.

This is a total brawl and not resembling a match in the slightest. They just beat the hell out of each other with punches, kicks and chokes. To be fair though that’s what this is supposed to be so they’re hitting the mark on that front. We hit the floor maybe a minute and a half in and it’s just nuts. Today this isn’t much but at this time it’s a big old brawl. Orndorff busts out a suplex and Jesse points out it’s the first wrestling move.

The referee puts the fastest ten count in recorded history on them but they’re both up. We hit the floor again and the fans are into this. We head up the aisle for the double countout which is the right thing to do. This never got a proper blowoff for some reason which is a shame. They fight into the back and Piper hides in a locker room as we go to a break.

Rating: C+. From a wrestling perspective this is awful but from a brawling perspective this was great. The idea was to just have these two want to kill each other and that’s how it went. This was one of the hottest feuds possible and it worked very well in that sense. It was a good brawl but FAR too short to be great.
Having recently cycled through most of the 80s SNME episodes, I recall this match distinctly as being just absolute mayhem, it was barely 5 minutes long but it was nonstop bell-to-bell hardcore brawling, reminiscent of a Moondogs match in Memphis, where the sheer brutality of the brawl mixed with the intense heat of the crowd made for just a thrilling match. Great short little match that I was happy to give *** to. I miss THIS Piper, the one that would stiff the fuck out of his opponents with lefts and rights in Portland (or in this case, New Jersey).

I will never understand why they turned Orndorff heel after this, he was SUPER over after his post-Wrestlemania face turn in '85. Seemed like they just turned him heel just to feed someone else to Hogan, which basically killed his character and inevitably his career. Not that I mind, because Orndorff was apparently a huge asshole.
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