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Old 11-01-2009, 08:38 PM
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I absolutely agree that RVD should represent Team USA in the Ladder Match portion of the Wrestlezolympics. Not only is he a proven winner in ladder matches, as Coco stated, but he's also innovative enough to use whatever resources are necessary to win Team USA the gold.

Coco discredited everyone else that would be a possibility to represent Team USA quite easily. RVD is also a proven winner. This is a man who throughout his run in the WWE, almost always had a title around his waist. He was also virtually loved by the WWE fanbase, and if you're looking for someone to perform in the clutch, look no further than RVD.

I would love for a Jeff Hardy sympathizer to explain why Jeff deserves to be in this over RVD. Sure, he was in a lot of exciting ladder matches, but he was also a choke artist in those matches.

The only person I could make a case for to go in instead of RVD is CM Punk, who has two MITB wins, and a TLC victory over Jeff Hardy for the World Heavyweight Championship. I would give RVD the edge though, just based on how innovative he's likely to be in a Ladder Match.

Any other suggestion should be thrown out the window though. If Jeff Hardy is representing Team USA in this match, it is certain to be a failure.
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:44 PM
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Coco discredited everyone else that would be a possibility to represent Team USA quite easily.
Almost Everyone...

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Yes, I'd like to throw Razor Ramon/ Scott Hall into the list of people that should be vying for The Ladder Match Spot. Lest we all forget, this was the man that won, arguably, the best ladder match of all time, with Shawn Michaels. And while that in itself is a feat, his victory in that match only solidified one more fact for me.... For everything RVD would do, Razor wouldn't. And that's why Razor would win this contest.

You see, while RVD would be so busy pandering to the crowd, and doing flashy moves that can have himself nearly maimed, Scott would go about his business, and would only be concerned about winning. Scott didn't care to perform flashy moves or to be eight bajillion flips off the ladder. All that would matter to him is retrieving the belt from the ladder. He's far more durable than RVD. RVD has a history of injuries, whereas the only times Scott spent outside the ring were mainly due to his own problems. I can't ever remember Razor or Scott missing a show due to injury. He has all the experience you could want. Having been in five ladder matches, and winning three of them. mind you, those three victories include Shawn Michaels, Bam Bam Bigelow (Arguably the most agile big man in the business), and Bret Hart, Goldberg, and Sid Vicious in a match to claim the Vacant WCW United States Title. He's sturdy, and won't be knocked off the ladder, a la some pissant the size of RVD. And, most importantly, the guy wants to win. And I don't know about you, but in the Olympics, I don't particularly care for style. All I care about is merely getting the win.

Scott Hall can guarantee you that.
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I'm sorry, but Van Dam's 6-1 (the one being a result of Big Show randomly running in) record trumps Hall's 3-2. Who taught you math?

Yeah, you can speculate that Van Dam risking his body might cost him, or that pandering to the crowd might cost him, but the numbers say that he can do those things and still come away with solid victory after solid victory. So basically, your biggest argument against Van Dam is that stuff that hasn't cost him the victory in his previous seven ladder matches will somehow prevent him from getting a victory this time. Yeah, that's a really great argument...

Goldberg, Bret Hart, and Sid aren't exactly guys you'd think would have the same chance in a ladder match as Jeff Hardy (twice Van Dam beat this guy... TWICE!), Eddie Guerrero, Matt Hardy, or Christian. Next!

Best ladder match ever? Pfft. This isn't a match quality-athon and Michaels won the return match and stepped over Hall in the long run. Next!

Van Dam has a history of injuries? Really? Considering the style Van Dam wrestles, he's one of the most built-to-last wrestlers in recent times (Good luck and a great warm-up routine keep this man in the game; Tough as nails as well). For the record, he's had two injuries that have side-lined him in his entire career, and finished the match both times. Hardly Edge or Mr. Kennedy, hardly an argument worth listening to. Hall's more likely to no-show than Van Dam is to get injured.

If that's the best you've got, I'm going to have to insist that Van Dam be picked over Hall.

Picking Van Dam has nothing to do with getting points for style. Van Dam is a lock for victory. If you really care about victory, you'll see Van Dam as the best choice here.
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If we don't get a Team Samoa or Team PR, are we going to include candidates from them for Team USA, since they are US territories? Pedro Morales deserves a spot in all this, and there's a number of people from Samoa that should be in the running as well.

Also, I'm still backing AJ Styles as a member of this team.
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If we don't get a Team Samoa or Team PR, are we going to include candidates from them for Team USA, since they are US territories? Pedro Morales deserves a spot in all this, and there's a number of people from Samoa that should be in the running as well.
With all due respect to Pedro Morales, I don't think it really matters if he's eligable bacause he wouldn't be on the team anyway. There are much bigger names and much more successful guys that should be on the team over him.

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Completely agree, AJ shoudl be the ladder match participant for team USA, not RVD, Scott Hall, or anyone else. He's the best in the world today and the champion of the hottest company at the moment.
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