John Bradshaw Layfield (JBL) turned down TNA

[benm1989]

aj styles is the future of professional wrestling and matt morgan is going places aswell
samoa joe is overrated and nigel mcguinness has a great future

[StopFantasyBooking]

Originally Posted by It's Damn Real!

AJ Styles and Matt Morgan. Neither of them established themselves anywhere except in TNA.

I guess AJ Styles holding ROH championships meant nothing.

aj styles is the future of professional wrestling and matt morgan is going places aswell
samoa joe is overrated and nigel mcguinness has a great future

Hate to break it to you, but Cena (who I personally don't care for) draws more than all of them combined. Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Batista, Mysterio...they each draw more than all of them combined.

To say that the future of pro-wrestling is resting in the crap-hole of TNA is pretty naive. You know that when people see Kurt Angle, the vast majority ask him why he quit wrestling, right?

[It's Damn Real!]

Originally Posted by StopFantasyBooking

I guess AJ Styles holding ROH championships meant nothing.

And Matt Morgan? Amazing Red? Eric Young? Concequences Creed? Hernandez? Franky Kazarian? All them, too?

I forgot, WWE only ever builds all it's stars. They certainly never came from other promotions or were ever over in another organization... guys like Austin, Hogan, Hart, DiBiase, Flair, etc. certainly only ever shook ground under the flag of McMahon, eh?

[StopFantasyBooking]

Haha you don't think WWE built Hogan? Really?

I like how you left out guys like Orton, Shawn Michaels, Edge, Cena, Undertaker, The Rock, Jeff Hardy, Lesnar, and even some of your own guys like Lashley and Kurt Angle.

FYI, Amazing Red held the ROH tag titles with AJ at one point. I never said TNA had no stars they built from the ground, but look at the ratio between has-beens and guys they've created.

Eric Young is awful, by the way. Especially on the mic.

Edit: I like how you referenced Kazarian and Creed like they've accomplished anything at all. I'm curious why you didn't mention Beer Money (who is over as hell) and MCMG, thought I'm not quite sure on their history. TNA has some talent, but they have no idea how to use it.

[Henry Hill]

Originally Posted by It's Damn Real!

Yeah, maybe, but that's just one perspective. The other is that TNA did in fact dodge a bullet (if you ask me) by simply not perpetuating the cycle of bringing in has-beens, or in JBL's case and IMO, a never-was.

Longest reigning WWE champion in 10 years is hardly a never was, but thats purely opinion, and you are entitled to yours.

Originally Posted by It's Damn Real!

I also don't think it's necessarily that JBL considers TNA a joke as much as it is JBL being cautious about his HOF eligibility, and/or his potential return/sign-off with WWE who he has a better repoire with.

I'm sure you're right about this, JBL, while he is a huge dick, is worth something to Vince. He'd definitely get more money, and recognition in WWE. I also think, that JBL just doesn't need wrestling right now. He is already a major face in the Stock Market game, and so is his wife. I'm sure they're doing just fine, and even with TNA's milder schedule, JBL doesn't need to bang himself up anymore.

[Madico_Fs]

Originally Posted by It's Damn Real!

According to the Wrestling Observer, TNA pitched an offer for him to come in and work for the company, and he turned it down citing no desire to be there.

I for one couldn't be happier. I've always hated JBL. I have no idea what people see in him. He's pompous and an ass in the locker room from numerous reports throughout his career. He's also fat and jiggly, and a total bore in the ring.

If you ask me, JBL just saved TNA some serious egg on their face by telling them no.

What, we didn't learn our lesson with Booker T?

Dude ive been a Bradshaw Fan sice the APA, Bradshaw probably turned down TNA to keep his record with the WWE clean as he probably hopes to join the elite in the WWE HALL OF FAME one day. This is a show of respect Bradshaw has for Vince and the WWE

[It's Damn Real!]

Originally Posted by StopFantasyBooking

Haha you don't think WWE built Hogan? Really?

I like how you left out guys like Orton, Shawn Michaels, Edge, Cena, Undertaker, The Rock, Jeff Hardy, Lesnar, and even some of your own guys like Lashley and Kurt Angle.

FYI, Amazing Red held the ROH tag titles with AJ at one point. I never said TNA had no stars they built from the ground, but look at the ratio between has-beens and guys they've created.

Eric Young is awful, by the way. Especially on the mic.

Edit: I like how you referenced Kazarian and Creed like they've accomplished anything at all. I'm curious why you didn't mention Beer Money (who is over as hell) and MCMG, thought I'm not quite sure on their history. TNA has some talent, but they have no idea how to use it.

Did WWE build Hogan? Sure. Had he already established himself as a credible icon prior to that in the NWA and AWA? Absolutely.

Yeah, WWE built Orton, Michaels, Edge, etc. Good for them. I never said they were incapable of building talent. I said TNA isn't incapable of the same, and for the record, why does it matter anyway? WCW was a great company, and guess who they were fronted by? 90% of their roster was ex-WWE, ECW and Luchadore. Who gives a shit? Because they didn't develop them themselves, they're unwatchable?

[Tastycles]

You don't know when this offer was made or for what position. As a wrestler, it would have been a horrendous decision for both parties. As an authority figure or commentator, it certainly wouldn't have been for TNA. JBL has a superb character for hating on, and I'm loathe to believe that he wouldn't have excelled as a heel GM, or indeed as a commentator. JBL had nothing to gain from it at all. He has already had the commentary experience, and is a wealthy man both from wrestling and in his own right. JBL doesn't need wrestling anymore, and I don't think wrestling ever needed JBL, so it's worked out well really.