Michael Cole and "Vintage".....

[Cena54VT]

every announcer in every type of "sport" repeats themselves a lot. for example, the announcer for the yankees, john sterling says "theeeeeee pitch.." like three times every inning. when marv alberts goes "yessss" or mike breen says "HEEE puts it in" when a shot is sunk in the NBA, no one complains. i would laugh at anyone who whines about jim nantz reminding us that the masters is a tradition unlike any other. so when MC Vintage screams out "OHHH THATS VINTAGE CENA RIGHT THERE!" he is doing the same thing. he has created something that people remember him for, and know him for. as far as im concerned, he is doing his job, and doing it well.

[beefthelegend]

ACTUALLY Lord Sidious, I believe the topic was about the DX Send-up of Michael Cole and his usage of "vintage"...let's not take ourselves too seriously here...

I found the whole segment hilarious...but i've always enjoyed the breaking of the fourth wall in wrestling. And i think DX does it better than anyone else.

Deep down, i believe that Triple H trolls wrestling dirt sites and message board for material.

But yeah...I think that DX stayed well within the boundries last night, because Cole is established. He is the straight man on Raw-the flagship show. He can laugh it off because he knows he has the best commentating spot in the business. As others have mentioned, the "vintage" Cole segment on the tenth anniversary of Smackdown is proof of this.

What i found funny/frustrating is that you KNOW there was a point in the match when Vince told Triple H and HbK to stop fucking around. Trips got silent, and Michaels suddenly got very flat. If anything, that is what Vince and "people who have the power" should be upset about...when DX was slapped on the wrist, they pouted, and responded in tounge in cheek manner. That is blantant anti-authoritarianism- being the rebels they actually claim to be.

Will there be any fallout?

No. DX is a huge draw. Trips has power...UNLIMITED POWER! Michaels is a veteran-the longest tenured employee (I believe he beats out the Undertaker by a few years). They can essentially do what they want- but sometimes they have to be reigned in. When Vince was on Raw feuding with DX, it wasn't a problem, because he could do it himself. But now such a thing would break Keyfabe in a MAJOR way...and Vince would never do that...Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain and all of that.

I don't see DX holding the young guys back...i think Creative does a good enough job at that themselves. Take Survivor Series for example. Instead of seeing Punk vs. Taker in a casket match (which is what i was hoping for) and instead of seeing Cena vs. Swagger and Team DX vs. Team Jerishow, we have the DX/Jerishow feud dilluting and each team facing the champion on their respective brands. While this is great, i can't help but wonder what might have been? Where is Punk left? Where is Swagger left? Two guys who need the exposure right now- Swagger to burst into the main event scene and Punk to continue to get his exposure and avoid being eclipsed by a sudden Batista Heel turn. But that's a gripe for another thread.

My point here (the TL;DR version)- DX didn't go too far, Cole is secure in his position so he can laugh it off, and DX isn't keeping younger stars back.

[For Those About To Doc]

I know many people dislike Cole's catchphrase, but I personally find it humorous. It might not be sidesplittingly hilarious when he says it (unlike Vickie's "Excuse me!" which I found extremely funny. What can I say, I'm odd.) but it brins a small smile to my face, especially when he or someone mocks it with their tongue in their cheek, like last night's commentary or the segment on the Decade of Smackdown Celebration.

It's entirely possible that Vince McMahon, who we all believe is feeding certain lines to commentators, feels the same way.

As for DX breaking the fourth wall, I like that. I far prefer funny Triple H and funny HBK to SERIOUS TRIPPY and SERIOUS SHAWN. Them breaking kayabe puts a smile on the face of those who get it, and it's just fun, really.

[MVs Prodigy]

Michael Cole is known for his catchphrase "vintage", he would not be the same announcer w/o it. But he does over use it. But to quote someone, that is "vintage" cole. haha.

[FTS]

Originally Posted by jazzua

Watching Raw last night during the main event got me wondering about something. Now, I'm a loud HBK fan, always have been. However, during the DX commentary they basically made fun of Cole the whole match by constantly using the term "Vintage". I didn't bother to count but i'm sure it was close to 20 times or so. We have seen this many times from DX. Putting other wrestlers down during their segments. Last night I found it funny, mainly because everytime Cole says "Vintage" I cringe. Honestly, I was waiting for one of them to do the "Longest running weekly episodic show on television bit". However, how far is too far?

I don't know, but this wasn't even close. I don't think DX hurts people with their antics either. They are comic relief, and they do a good job of it. They put themselves down too. The purpose of the group is that everything is a joke.

Sometimes I feel like they do actually slow down or hurt the path of a wrestler by doing this. I can remember when they all but killed the Spirit Squad

Seriously? Any credibility Spirit Squad may have had was from the rub they got from DX. So what if they packaged them and sent them to OVW. It was funny. Everyone on here complains that WWE doesn't pay any attention to us, and now you're knocking the bone they threw us.

and could have hurt any chance those kids had of being repackaged.

Yeah, that Nic Nehmeth was done for. What ever happened to him anyway?

What does everyone think here. Does DX, mainly Hunter, go to far here? Does it hinder younger talent when they pretend to not even know who they are? Personaly, I always kind of find it entertaining. It may not be as funny to a casual fan though. What does everyone else think?

Personally, I think it's pretty funny. It honestly makes me laugh. It's so hard to take them seriously. They can't go from being corporate shills on minute to seriously dogging the product the next. I think the casual fan is smart enough to recognize that taking them seriously is a bad idea.

[WWF Wrestling Fan]

Now I can see Cole saying Vintage about DX Taker Finlay and Tommy Dreamer but when he said it about Hornswoggle I was like Your killing me guy what's next Vintage Justin Roberts Vintage people booing John Cena its just getting annoying.

[mister_b1LL]

Like many of y'all, I cringe now and again when I hear Michael Cole say "vintage (whatever)", but the day I know that he has gone too far is when a no name jobber throws a punch at the guy who is gonna squash him and Cole says "VINTAGE JOBBER!!!"

[Freddy4190]

It really is getting kind of annoying when people say Triple H buries young talent. It's far from that. He's been staying away from the title for the most part, helping young talent out, making them look good, helping rejuvenate old talent that lost that spark or whatever. I'd love to see HBK or HHH turn heel, but that's beyond the point. Michael Cole's "Vintage" is just funny. I always chuckle a little bit when I hear him use it, he knows people make fun of it. Didn't you watch the Decade of Smackdown show?