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After having some disagreement with some peoples over how great the cena vs reigns match was, i got me thinking. Do we really think that WWE cares what us adult fans think? Let's face it, they can do anything they want and will still going to be their supporting them. What other wrestling company, sports or tv show can say that? None really.

If somebody doesn'T like the Ring of honor product, will he continue to support it just so that he can complain? No. Same goes for New Japan and Impact or any other promotion with television exposure across the u.s and canada. If we don't like a certain product we just stop watching and go watch something else. But with WWE, is a different thing, we continue to watch even through we don't like what they are giving us because i think in a way, we're scared that if we stop watching WWE, we're going to be missing something or we're not going to be as cool a wrestling fans because we stop watching the big league of wrestling.

So WWE, in my mind don't cared as much about the adult wrestling fans especially the IWC because they know that no matter what they are going to throw at us, where still going to buy tickets for the tv tapings and PPV, we're still going to pay for the network, we're still going to buy merchandise so they're not scared to lose us, because they know that we need to watch the product just so we can complain about it afterward.

So when they push somebody like a roman reigns to be the face of that company, it's not for us that they are doing it, it's for the kids or what i love to called them to future fans of the WWE. They are trying to get kids hooked on wrestling just like they did with each and every one of us when we we're kids. When they book what a like to called the kids number 1 guy, John cena against the kids no.2 guy roman reigns and they have Reigns win over cena and then do the passing of the torch to reigns, it's not for us that they are doing that but for the kids who see their hero saying that it's o.k. to support reigns now, just like what they did with hogan and Macho man at wrestlemania 4 or what they did with hogan and warrior at mania 6 and so on and so forth. For kids who don't see the product like we do, this is a moment that they will never forget and will remember for a long time.

We need to remember that WWE is at heart a family oriented product, their first preoccupation is to make sure that they have the next generation of fans on board when we get to old for watching their product. They know damn well that they we don't like certain characters and we would like this other guy who been on the indy's and a better worker to get push instead, but in the end, it's not about us because no matter what, they have are money and will always have are money and we will always react to roman reigns no matter how we feel about him so why change anything right now.
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If I weren't so lazy, I'd research this and compare the number of wrestling fans now with past eras. But I am too lazy so will assume the OP is correct in that wrestling hasn't lost fans and only give my personal perspective.

I'm one of the few who has quit on the WWF; I don't buy merchandise(except a video game, which I still haven't figured out!), don't watch the programming or the PPV's. Every once in a while while flipping through channels I'll see the WWF on and stop for a few minutes hoping something will catch my interest. I really wish something would; I've loved pro wrestling as long as I can remember and would like nothing more than to be excited about it again. But I realize the WWF isn't marketing itself to tdmoon and I can't blame them a bit for doing what is best for their company. If popularity is strong with the young kids and they are making a lot of money, they must be doing the right thing. I don't want to be the old guy shaking his fist and complaining about modern wrestling--if others are digging it then I'm fine with the direction they are taking. Their focus should be on making money and appeasing the majority, not on what I want. Fortunately there are decades worth of JCP, World Class, Memphis, AWA, etc. matches for me to enjoy when I need my wrestling fix. Maybe a day will come when I see a wrestler or an angle that recaptures my interest, you never know. The Shield and Wyatt feud a few years ago came pretty close.

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I'm more along the lines of thinking that the people who complain really aren't all that unhappy, or not nearly as much as they claim to be. That's not to say that some complaints aren't legit or anything, it's just that the criticism often sounds so over the top that it's hard to take seriously. For example, I'll sometimes scroll down and read some of the comments on an article after I finish reading it and it's almost always packed with complaints and criticisms, even if it's not an article about anything concerning WWE they'll find some way to insert some sort of criticisms. Most of them claim to hate WWE, that they don't watch it, etc. but they know what's going on and they keep up with what's happening; if anyone genuinely hated WWE as much as they claim in many of the comments I've seen there or in posts I've read in the forum, yet still know what's going on, it undermines their credibility. This is truly the age of the keyboard warriors and trolls where you're more likely to find 50 complaints, criticisms and just general negativity for every single positive thing you read about.

As for WWE's adult fans, of course WWE cares about the adult fans because adults make up 3/4's of the audience. People like to reference the PG rating all the time as though WWE television is like an episode of the Care Bears or something because we don't see stuff like bikini contests, a Texas redneck sodomizing his boss in the "hospital" with medical equipment or said boss pulling down his trousers so that another grown man can literally kiss his ass. I can do without all that garbage, thank you very much, because that's what it would be today and that's what it was 20 years ago.

When you get right down to it, people want to be entertained and some have different tastes in what's entertaining. If someone's looking for a wrestling product that looks like a combo of mindless action and a porno flick, they're not gonna find it. If someone prefers tons of high and/or dangerous spots, that can be found outside of WWE. When it comes to entertaining people, WWE obviously does a good job of it otherwise they wouldn't be making more money than ever and we, as fans, wouldn't devote our time to watching it or talking about it.
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After having some disagreement with some peoples over how great the cena vs reigns match was, i got me thinking. Do we really think that WWE cares what us adult fans think? Let's face it, they can do anything they want and will still going to be their supporting them. What other wrestling company, sports or tv show can say that? None really.

If somebody doesn'T like the Ring of honor product, will he continue to support it just so that he can complain? No. Same goes for New Japan and Impact or any other promotion with television exposure across the u.s and canada. If we don't like a certain product we just stop watching and go watch something else. But with WWE, is a different thing, we continue to watch even through we don't like what they are giving us because i think in a way, we're scared that if we stop watching WWE, we're going to be missing something or we're not going to be as cool a wrestling fans because we stop watching the big league of wrestling.

So WWE, in my mind don't cared as much about the adult wrestling fans especially the IWC because they know that no matter what they are going to throw at us, where still going to buy tickets for the tv tapings and PPV, we're still going to pay for the network, we're still going to buy merchandise so they're not scared to lose us, because they know that we need to watch the product just so we can complain about it afterward.

So when they push somebody like a roman reigns to be the face of that company, it's not for us that they are doing it, it's for the kids or what i love to called them to future fans of the WWE. They are trying to get kids hooked on wrestling just like they did with each and every one of us when we we're kids. When they book what a like to called the kids number 1 guy, John cena against the kids no.2 guy roman reigns and they have Reigns win over cena and then do the passing of the torch to reigns, it's not for us that they are doing that but for the kids who see their hero saying that it's o.k. to support reigns now, just like what they did with hogan and Macho man at wrestlemania 4 or what they did with hogan and warrior at mania 6 and so on and so forth. For kids who don't see the product like we do, this is a moment that they will never forget and will remember for a long time.

We need to remember that WWE is at heart a family oriented product, their first preoccupation is to make sure that they have the next generation of fans on board when we get to old for watching their product. They know damn well that they we don't like certain characters and we would like this other guy who been on the indy's and a better worker to get push instead, but in the end, it's not about us because no matter what, they have are money and will always have are money and we will always react to roman reigns no matter how we feel about him so why change anything right now.
I think you are talking apples and oranges here. Yes we will continue to watch and pretty much the WWE can do whatever they want, and we will still watch. The problem is though that we don't have to like some of what they do and yes we will complain about it.

You are wrong that fans complain about everything because they don't. Most of the time it is fine what is happening, but since you brought up Reigns, again, I'm assuming that you are upset that others don't agree that he isn't the one sent down from the mountain to save us all.

Listen he is not the only person on the roster, and while some don't like him, and some don't if you read comments from this and other sites, doesn't mean that he shouldn't have a job. We also shouldn't have to like him or anyone else for that matter just because you or someone else does. Like I said on another thread, since when do we have to explain why we like or don't like someone. Maybe he isn't my cup of tea, maybe I like someone else more, or maybe there are a whole host of reasons that I can come up with.

I didn't like Wyatt for a long time or Sheamus for that matter, but they have grown on me. Not going to get my panties in a bunch just cause I like them or ask Hatehabsforever why he doesn't like Wyatt. It's up to him who he will watch or who he won't. If you are an adult fan then most likely you are capable of making up your own mind, and not going to go with the rest of the crowd. It seems to really upset Reigns fans that some of us don't fall in line. I find that perplexing.

Anyway getting back to the core of this thread, sure the WWE is always trying to grab the new generation of fans and that's fine. It's what keeps them in business. It doesn't mean I have to like their choice, and I will use sites like this one to say so. Sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it too, in the case of Roman Reigns that's it in a nutshell.

EDIT: I think when you are dealing with such a diverse roster and diverse fans, you will get fans who don't like what is being offered, as an adult we should all understand that whether we agree with it or not.
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I think you are talking apples and oranges here. Yes we will continue to watch and pretty much the WWE can do whatever they want, and we will still watch. The problem is though that we don't have to like some of what they do and yes we will complain about it.

You are wrong that fans complain about everything because they don't. Most of the time it is fine what is happening, but since you brought up Reigns, again, I'm assuming that you are upset that others don't agree that he isn't the one sent down from the mountain to save us all.

Listen he is not the only person on the roster, and while some don't like him, and some don't if you read comments from this and other sites, doesn't mean that he shouldn't have a job. We also shouldn't have to like him or anyone else for that matter just because you or someone else does. Like I said on another thread, since when do we have to explain why we like or don't like someone. Maybe he isn't my cup of tea, maybe I like someone else more, or maybe there are a whole host of reasons that I can come up with.

I didn't like Wyatt for a long time or Sheamus for that matter, but they have grown on me. Not going to get my panties in a bunch just cause I like them or ask Hatehabsforever why he doesn't like Wyatt. It's up to him who he will watch or who he won't. If you are an adult fan then most likely you are capable of making up your own mind, and not going to go with the rest of the crowd. It seems to really upset Reigns fans that some of us don't fall in line. I find that perplexing.

Anyway getting back to the core of this thread, sure the WWE is always trying to grab the new generation of fans and that's fine. It's what keeps them in business. It doesn't mean I have to like their choice, and I will use sites like this one to say so. Sometimes you can't have your cake and eat it too, in the case of Roman Reigns that's it in a nutshell.

EDIT: I think when you are dealing with such a diverse roster and diverse fans, you will get fans who don't like what is being offered, as an adult we should all understand that whether we agree with it or not.
I didn't use Reigns because i'm upset that others didn't agree with my opinion of him, i just use him has an example because it was a easy example to explain my point and be able to do comparison with other moments that happened like this in wwe.

But i agree with you point as a whole, we're dealing with a diverse roster and diverse fans and it's alright just it'S alright to complain if we don't like something. But we need to understand as adult that why we don't like somebody like reigns, they're a demographic that do like him and see him as the number 2 guy in the company. The point of my thread was more about the fact that pleasing Kids is more important to WWE then pleasing adult because they are the fans that will become the adult fans in 15 to 20 years and will replace us. When we we're kids, we didn't see wrestling the same way that we saw it now, we didn't care about the booking or the in ring work, all we wanted was a good guy like hulk hogan or ultimate warrior in my case to beat the bad guy like ted dibiase or earthquake and this didn't change in today's environment. Kids still want to see a superhero like a cena or Reigns beat a bad guy like a strowman or wyatt. That's what WWE was trying to do with the Cena vs reigns match, to let's the kids demographic know that it's o.k to cheer they're number 2 guy now because their hero endorse him which is what WWE is all about.

I still think that it's o.k for adult fans to like who they want but we have to understand that will they still like having you're money they aren't as worried about losing the adult fanbase because were a really loyal fanbase and while we complain, where still going to comeback. If a kids doesn't like something, he will just leave and go watch something else so that's why they booked the way they booked, to make sure they keep the kids demographic.
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I didn't use Reigns because i'm upset that others didn't agree with my opinion of him, i just use him has an example because it was a easy example to explain my point and be able to do comparison with other moments that happened like this in wwe.

But i agree with you point as a whole, we're dealing with a diverse roster and diverse fans and it's alright just it'S alright to complain if we don't like something. But we need to understand as adult that why we don't like somebody like reigns, they're a demographic that do like him and see him as the number 2 guy in the company. The point of my thread was more about the fact that pleasing Kids is more important to WWE then pleasing adult because they are the fans that will become the adult fans in 15 to 20 years and will replace us. When we we're kids, we didn't see wrestling the same way that we saw it now, we didn't care about the booking or the in ring work, all we wanted was a good guy like hulk hogan or ultimate warrior in my case to beat the bad guy like ted dibiase or earthquake and this didn't change in today's environment. Kids still want to see a superhero like a cena or Reigns beat a bad guy like a strowman or wyatt. That's what WWE was trying to do with the Cena vs reigns match, to let's the kids demographic know that it's o.k to cheer they're number 2 guy now because their hero endorse him which is what WWE is all about.

I still think that it's o.k for adult fans to like who they want but we have to understand that will they still like having you're money they aren't as worried about losing the adult fanbase because were a really loyal fanbase and while we complain, where still going to comeback. If a kids doesn't like something, he will just leave and go watch something else so that's why they booked the way they booked, to make sure they keep the kids demographic.
No one said it wasn't okay for the kids to cheer who they want. As a matter of fact it's okay for anyone, adult or child to cheer whomever they please. But the days of booing the heels or cheering the faces is long gone. It's become a matter of preference, what character they are playing in the ring good or bad doesn't seem to matter a damm.

You can blame booking decisions, the advent of the internet or the loss of kayafe, anything you want and it may or may not be part and parcel of the whole thing. But the point remains, we are going on 4 years now of the WWE pushing a guy that the fans don't seem to be too interested in. You'd think that wouldn't be smart business sense, but yes considering the WWE is the only game in town for most, they can get away with it. The only question is for how long. There will come a point in time when the boo's will die away and be replaced with dead silence. What does the WWE do then as they haven't really bothered to push anyone else?

John Cena is one of the most complete wrestlers on the roster right now. Great on the mic, good in ring skills, unfortunately he is winding down his career it would appear. Who is waiting in the wings to take over when he does finally go? I haven't seen anyone on the roster today with the passion he had for the sport or the connection with the kids. No one else comes close and that is a problem that the WWE has to face.
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I didn't use Reigns because i'm upset that others didn't agree with my opinion of him, i just use him has an example because it was a easy example to explain my point and be able to do comparison with other moments that happened like this in wwe.

But i agree with you point as a whole, we're dealing with a diverse roster and diverse fans and it's alright just it'S alright to complain if we don't like something. But we need to understand as adult that why we don't like somebody like reigns, they're a demographic that do like him and see him as the number 2 guy in the company. The point of my thread was more about the fact that pleasing Kids is more important to WWE then pleasing adult because they are the fans that will become the adult fans in 15 to 20 years and will replace us. When we we're kids, we didn't see wrestling the same way that we saw it now, we didn't care about the booking or the in ring work, all we wanted was a good guy like hulk hogan or ultimate warrior in my case to beat the bad guy like ted dibiase or earthquake and this didn't change in today's environment. Kids still want to see a superhero like a cena or Reigns beat a bad guy like a strowman or wyatt. That's what WWE was trying to do with the Cena vs reigns match, to let's the kids demographic know that it's o.k to cheer they're number 2 guy now because their hero endorse him which is what WWE is all about.

I still think that it's o.k for adult fans to like who they want but we have to understand that will they still like having you're money they aren't as worried about losing the adult fanbase because were a really loyal fanbase and while we complain, where still going to comeback. If a kids doesn't like something, he will just leave and go watch something else so that's why they booked the way they booked, to make sure they keep the kids demographic.
While you got a good point, I think that for a kids, they still see it the same way we did when we we're kids. If you remember when you we're a kid, you cheered for the babyface and boo the heel and it still the same way today. Kids will cheer for the face and boo the heel because they don't see wrestling the same way we do. In their eyes, they still believe want to believe that this is real and have their hero which reigns and cena are part of.

Like you say and I do agree with you, I feel it's o.k for us adult to cheer and boo whoever we want, but at the same time we need to understand why they continue to push guys like a roman reigns in he top spot. Because while he might not be everybody's favorite as far as the adults are concern, he is with the kids and that as important a demographic for wwe as the adult are. If reigns didn't get the reaction he gets evwry night, they would have stop pushing him months ago but he does get reactions. Just as an exemple, listen to the 50/50 reaction he got tonight fans cheered and boo him when he made his entrance, then got mostlt positive reaction from the crowd for most of his segment with miz.

You're right to say that for us adult, keyfabe is dead, but kids still want to believe in the good guy vs bad guy aspect of wrestling like we did when we we're kids so who are we to take that illusion away just because we don't like who they like and I saw some adult being jackass toward kids because they liked roman reigns,
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I disagree, I know lots of long time fans who reached a point where they now no longer follow WWE or any wrestling, Due to family and work commitments I don't follow it anywhere near what I used to, It must hit their business when they lose these fans so I do think they try to cater to everyone which probably isn't easy, Occasionally the long term fans have returns from the past like Goldberg, Undertaker, Chris Jericho, Kurt Angle, Matt and Jeff Hardy etc from this year to appease them from time to time.
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I think many have already touched on the key points of this topic.

WWE does care about the adult fans because they actually make up a good portion of their fan base and income due to live attendance, merchandise (whether it's buying for themselves or their kids), Network subscriptions, etc. But WWE also knows there is a key difference between the way kids and adults view the product.

Kids view the product without knowing or caring too much about the backstage stuff so they respond to what they SEE happening and if they have characters they like who are winning against characters they don't like they'll probably still watch because they don't get caught up in WHY certain guys win or lose they just watch for the next match-up and feud with their favorites and hope they win.

For adults, we probably know all too much about the backstage and reality of how pro wrestling works and as much as we may "mark out" or just be able to sit and enjoy what we see, it's pretty hard not to look at a result and dislike it because so-and-so SHOULD HAVE been booked to win or the WRONG GUY is getting a push. That's part of what turns adult fans off of WWE and sometimes for good. That's the risk WWE takes when they don't listen to the adult fans while still trying to please the kids.

The thing I have to keep reminding myself is that WWE is like a modern day variety show. There are a bunch of different acts involved and everyone watching just simply isn't going to like them all. Some acts will be more common and those who don't like them will have to sit through them more and more or else just stop watching. What you want is a variety show where MOST people watching at least like MOST of the show so they want to tune in every week and keep up.

Really people should remember whatever era of wrestling they liked the most, let's just take Attitude Era for example, it was NOT all great all the time. There was a lot of stupid things but what it did have that was good turned out be REALLY good in the eyes of the fans and it worked for a number years.

Same thing today, some things are really good and the fans that remain can enjoy. The huge spread in entertainment that is available now has taken a large chunk out of the fanbase for many shows not just WWE and only a few are able to maintain a very strong fanbase and rating.

So take the good with the bad with WWE. It doesn't mean you have to LIKE it or not criticize it but also WWE listens to the money. The people who buy tickets and go to shows tell them what seems to be working and they work with that most of the time.

If you aren't buying in then that is a way of being critical of WWE but it's harder to get the message across because it takes a lot MORE of those people before WWE realizes what they are doing isn't working.

So go ahead, criticize the stuff you find is stupid and makes no sense, and enjoy the stuff that's really good and then remember it's a show after all, it'll never be perfect, never was but these days it's easier than EVER to skip stuff you don't like and watch stuff you do like.
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There is actually a very bad trend in WWE's audience. WWE's audience is not getting younger, it is getting older. The average age of WWE's audience is somewhere between 40 to 54. A lot of the older fans are not parents watching with their children. Obviously cord cutting has a lot to do with it (other sports have also gotten older). The other worrying trend is UFC is way ahead in terms of young fans. This is eventually going to cause problems with them. In about 20 years, they might start seeing a huge problem with TV ratings and probably attendance. I have no idea how to fix it. They are not replacing the older fans with young ones. They are not gaining new older fans. Meaning the audience is getting older because it is getting smaller. They don't have to worry yet as their revenue is still very high (profit is a bit of another story but that is still up as well).

I think the biggest step in gaining young fans would be to scale Raw back to 2 hours. 3 hours is a daunting task to try to get new fans to watch. 3 hours is a big commitment.

WWE went PG for sponsors. Sponsors allow them to get big TV contracts which allows them to absorb losses. If they went PG to get younger fans (which I don't think they did), they failed miserably.

I've become a casual fan at best right now. I feel none of the matches matter anymore. Everyone kept winning/losing with no repercussions. Stories felt bland. I haven't gone to any events near me in years.
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