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Old 06-04-2017, 03:15 AM
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The title says it all. Basically the professional wrestlers you love but don't want them to join WWE for some particular reasons.

Pentagon Dark: Awesome gimmick. Character is unique. There's a special aura around him. Very good in the ring as well. Plays his role very well.

Ethan Carter III: Great heel. Has improved a lot in the ring. Has been good on the mic since long. IMPACT Wrestling's one of fewer stars.

Don't know why but can't see them taste success in WWE if they ever join WWE.
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Old 06-04-2017, 04:34 AM
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Kota Ibushi and the Young Bucks.

I like what Bucks are doing now and what they mean to people. I don't picture their WWE debut going well. It wouldn't surprise me if they were brought in as something hot, and then floundered. Then faded out of any form of relevancy. Kind of like "The Club'. If WWE can't book something that is literally written for them properly god forbid they handle the Bucks. I probably wouldn't like them after they get signed, but I'd be glad to see them do whatever if they're happy with it. Especially if it provides them a wider fan base or audience.

Kota. If he wants to continue doing comedy pro-wrestling I'd rather him do something actually funny and not Nickelodeon humor. If he wants to do a serious match I want him to wrestle the best opponents and actually have a wrestling match. Most of the best workers right now are still not in WWE. NJPW would be preferable for more big Kota matches. I know some people watched the CWC and were sports entertained, but lack the ability to use google. That is good though, because if he did want to go to WWE (although he already turned down a deal) he can sports entertain the sports entertained WWE universe.
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Old 06-04-2017, 05:03 AM
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None really. I think that if your end goal isn't to be in wwe or nxt then why are you doing this for really.

I really would love to see guys like jay lethal, the bucks, eli drake, or even women's like rosemary and allie go to wwe just to see if they are able to adapt to the wwe style like some of the other indy stars we're able to do. Kota ibushi is another one that I would love to see in wwe. James storm could be a great veteran present in nxt.

Again, this might be a un popular opinion, but again if you're end goal as a wrestler isn't to make it to the big leagues which is either wwe or new japan then why are you doing this in the first place. So for me, I don't have a favorite wrestler that I dont want to see in wwe because at the end, I went to see them perform on the biggest platform imaginable and be successful.
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Old 06-04-2017, 10:21 AM
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None really. I think that if your end goal isn't to be in wwe or nxt then why are you doing this for really.

I really would love to see guys like jay lethal, the bucks, eli drake, or even women's like rosemary and allie go to wwe just to see if they are able to adapt to the wwe style like some of the other indy stars we're able to do. Kota ibushi is another one that I would love to see in wwe. James storm could be a great veteran present in nxt.

Again, this might be a un popular opinion, but again if you're end goal as a wrestler isn't to make it to the big leagues which is either wwe or new japan then why are you doing this in the first place. So for me, I don't have a favorite wrestler that I dont want to see in wwe because at the end, I went to see them perform on the biggest platform imaginable and be successful.
I think that you misunderstood the OP.

What I intended to ask was wrestlers you like. But you won't want them to join WWE because they won't be booked rightly or their appeal won't cater to WWE audience. Or any other particular reason.
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Old 06-04-2017, 06:40 AM
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Kenny Omega

With Sting and AJ Styles finally going to WWE there isn't really a 'big name' wrestler that hasn't been there. I know Kenny Omega is small fry in comparison to AJ and Sting but he's arguably the biggest name outside of WWE that has never wrestled there.

wrestlingmasters55 mentioned how if your goal isn't WWE or NJPW then what's the point. But Omega is in NJPW and if he can solidify himself there as a big name then he'll have the notoriety of being one of the big wrestler's to never work for WWE. I mean it's not like they haven't been interested. Everybody suspected he was going to turn up there earlier this year so he has value.
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Kenny Omega

With Sting and AJ Styles finally going to WWE there isn't really a 'big name' wrestler that hasn't been there. I know Kenny Omega is small fry in comparison to AJ and Sting but he's arguably the biggest name outside of WWE that has never wrestled there.

wrestlingmasters55 mentioned how if your goal isn't WWE or NJPW then what's the point. But Omega is in NJPW and if he can solidify himself there as a big name then he'll have the notoriety of being one of the big wrestler's to never work for WWE. I mean it's not like they haven't been interested. Everybody suspected he was going to turn up there earlier this year so he has value.
That's another one for me. But a little hope resisted me to add his name.

I was very happy when there were rumors of Omega coming to WWE. Most importantly, because I would get to see him more easily. That's sort of mean on me but WWE is more feasible to me. Another reason was a dream match between him and AJ Styles. But as I thought more about it, I was more glad to have him continue in NJPW.

If Omega would've joined WWE, I can't really see him going to main event scene. Not because there's lack of talent. But because it's Vince. Heck, Omega isn't even a IWGP World Heavyweight Champion as of now. Winning that would surely help him. Still, I'm not sure after how Gallows-Anderson were booked.
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Old 06-04-2017, 08:22 AM
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Honestly I'm more concerned with stars in NXT joining the main roster. I find that particular stars that jump straight to the main roster from another promotion usually find success: AJ Styles is a very prominent name here. But particular stars absolutely light it up in NXT and then suffer on the main roster. There's plenty of examples and we all know who those kind of guys are. Someone like Sami Zayn pops to mind instantly. I'm not really sure what happened there. Bayley is a brilliant example too. She's been seriously mishandled and suffered a lot from it, especially when you consider her success in NXT. So from that point of view, I'd be more concerned with how WWE translates a star's success in NXT to the main roster.

If I had to pick somebody outside of WWE, I would probably pick two guys and say The Young Bucks. They're a great tag team and WWE are in desperate need of them from my perspective. In theory you would think that would benefit an incoming team like Young Bucks, but we've also seen examples of where stars have joined from other promotions and gone nowhere. Plus, outside of the Hardy Boyz, there's been no real progression of the division. I'd fear that they would either get totally exposed as the only tag team to rely on, or lost in the shuffle that is the tag team divison.
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Honestly I'm more concerned with stars in NXT joining the main roster. I find that particular stars that jump straight to the main roster from another promotion usually find success: AJ Styles is a very prominent name here. But particular stars absolutely light it up in NXT and then suffer on the main roster. There's plenty of examples and we all know who those kind of guys are. Someone like Sami Zayn pops to mind instantly. I'm not really sure what happened there. Bayley is a brilliant example too. She's been seriously mishandled and suffered a lot from it, especially when you consider her success in NXT. So from that point of view, I'd be more concerned with how WWE translates a star's success in NXT to the main roster.
The success stories of NXT far outweigh the failures. Ambrose, Rollins, Reigns, Owens, Balor, Charlotte, Sasha, Becky, Enzo, Big Cass, Big E, etc. have all become significant players, among the most over acts on the roster or a combination of both. Besides, not everyone who comes up from NXT is gonna be a major star; that's not to say that I don't think WWE makes wrong decisions in who to push sometimes, because we all know they certainly do, but so does every other company. As far as wrestlers who're misused, I think we often times gravely overestimate whenever we say a wrestler is damaged or misused. Whatever problem's are plaguing Bayley, for instance, can be easily remedied within a few weeks.

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If I had to pick somebody outside of WWE, I would probably pick two guys and say The Young Bucks. They're a great tag team and WWE are in desperate need of them from my perspective. In theory you would think that would benefit an incoming team like Young Bucks, but we've also seen examples of where stars have joined from other promotions and gone nowhere. Plus, outside of the Hardy Boyz, there's been no real progression of the division. I'd fear that they would either get totally exposed as the only tag team to rely on, or lost in the shuffle that is the tag team divison.
I don't see the Bucks clicking in WWE. They've spent the last several years cultivating their image, their personas, their moves and everything about themselves as the ultimate indy wrestlers. For people who like the Bucks, a lot of fans will point at them and say that they represent what's best about indy wrestling while others say they represent what's worst about indy wrestling. I think WWE may have hamstrung itself when it comes to its tag teams by not keeping it as one big division. The Hardy Boyz, Sheamus & Cesaro, Gallows & Anderson, American Alpha, the Usos, Enzo & Big Cass, the Revival and a few others as one big division would give WWE, quite possibly, the overall strongest tag team division in its history.
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The success stories of NXT far outweigh the failures. Ambrose, Rollins, Reigns, Owens, Balor, Charlotte, Sasha, Becky, Enzo, Big Cass, Big E, etc. have all become significant players, among the most over acts on the roster or a combination of both. Besides, not everyone who comes up from NXT is gonna be a major star; that's not to say that I don't think WWE makes wrong decisions in who to push sometimes, because we all know they certainly do, but so does every other company. As far as wrestlers who're misused, I think we often times gravely overestimate whenever we say a wrestler is damaged or misused. Whatever problem's are plaguing Bayley, for instance, can be easily remedied within a few weeks.



I don't see the Bucks clicking in WWE. They've spent the last several years cultivating their image, their personas, their moves and everything about themselves as the ultimate indy wrestlers. For people who like the Bucks, a lot of fans will point at them and say that they represent what's best about indy wrestling while others say they represent what's worst about indy wrestling. I think WWE may have hamstrung itself when it comes to its tag teams by not keeping it as one big division. The Hardy Boyz, Sheamus & Cesaro, Gallows & Anderson, American Alpha, the Usos, Enzo & Big Cass, the Revival and a few others as one big division would give WWE, quite possibly, the overall strongest tag team division in its history.
I agree that there have been some great success stories coming out of NXT, which is ultimately why I'd be more concerned with those graduating from NXT and to the main roster. Fans care a lot for these guys and in many cases more so than when guys have completely switched companies before. Hence, I think it should be more of a concern here because the attention given to how WWE handles these graduates is so great. Having said that, you are right, more often than not, WWE does get it right. Some guys naturally won't translate well either and I understand that.

I also agree a lot with what you say about Young Bucks. Ultimately, I feel right now that it truly is a case of WWE needing them more than they need WWE. They have talented teams thinly spread.
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This doesn't really make any sense to me. The WWE is the biggest wrestling federation in the world. If you are a fan of someone wouldn't you want to see them succeed on the biggest stage possible? Ask any wrestler on the planet and if they are truly honest in their response then I bet deep down ANY of them would dream of scoring a big victory at Wrestlemania some day if they have yet to do so. I get it that there are fans who prefer other federations. However WWE is bigger than TNA, ROH, Lucha Underground, and more. Just because someone is a big deal somewhere else doesn't mean they will ruin their career by going from a smaller organization to one as large as the WWE.

AJ Styles would be the perfect example. I remember as far back as 8 years ago hearing about fans wanting to see dream matches between Styles and guys like Cena, while others said he is better off staying in TNA since he would never get anywhere if he went to the WWE. Well, never say never. Not only did he have a memorable debut but he did compete in that dream feud with Cena, and he won the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. His popularity further increased. If it can happen for AJ Styles who at one point was the John Cena of TNA, then it can happen to anyone. Having wrestlers that you do NOT want to see in the WWE one day is honestly a bit silly to me.
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