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Originally Posted by Makaveli31 View Post
William Regal?!? LOL first off Regal had no where near the charisma Bret, had no where near the caliber of matches Bret had and Bret (when he had an issue to talk about instead of rambling) was a better talker than Regal. Another comparison that boggles the mind. There were ALOT of problems with Bret's WCW run not just the whining (which did get old) but again he was told to do this by Bischoff. If you read Bret's book, Bischoff told him to rip the fans (when the fans were chanting Bret's name ironically) and play the blame game not Bret. Now, you can criticize Bret for not coming up with any new ideas for his character that's fair but he will say (and he has stated) that all of his ideas were shot down by Bischoff, Nash, and Hogan.



It was a head game between Hogan and McMahon and Bret was caught in the middle. Vince told Bret one thing (probably to get him to drop the strap to Yoko without any ill-feelings) and told Hogan another. Vince was known for doing that. Bret says he was told one thing by McMahon and when confronted McMahon flat out lied and said "it was never going to be a World title match." That was according to Bret's book.



Hennig?!? When was he a draw? He barely wrestled during the New Generation Era. Razor and 'Taker were role players at that point. Prominent players but they weren't charged with "carrying the comapany."

The problem with the New Generation Era was Vince booked them like he did Hogan in the '80's The white meat All-American babyface. In the Attitude-starved '90's. We're talking MTV, grunge, gangsta rap, Pulp Fiction-era stuff and Vince had Lex in skimpy USA tights driving around in a bus?!? Diesel singing Christmas carols?!? Shawn with his boyhood dream touring the country with his 60 year old trainer Jose Lothario. It was enough to make you puke.

To me, Bret Hart was over. Was he Hogan, Austin or Rock? No. Was he Sammartino or Andre? No. Was he even Backlund? Debatable. But he lead the company during it's worst time financially abd creatively. If you're a Hall of Famer on a losing team you are still a Hall of Famer. He was still VERY over with the crowd. You just have to look at the matches and the kind of response he got. The proof is in the pudding. There were very few Bret matches that were boring or did not deliver. He brought it everyday.

You could argue that point. It's valid but if I was running a wrestling company I would rather have Bret on my team than the opposing teams. He would not necessarily be "the man' but he would always be a top star.
I get the Regal point from both sides both are kind of correct... the problem is in 97, he had nowhere near the charisma someone like Bret did... but Regal DID end up a far better wrestling "character" than Bret ever was and far more charismatic when he had the years on the clock... on at least two different occasions, with the GM role (which Bret would have had instead had he stayed) he was one of the best heels in the biz, on his attitude and persona.The first time was more comedic with the Jericho "besmirching" and Eugene etc but the second when he was active and KOTR... That Regal was the talent Bret thought himself to be in 97, if that drugs fail hadn't come, the landscape would be different now... not cos Regal would have been the man for years, but even just once would have meant other talents came through differently and or better.

When it comes down to it, Bret DID screw Bret...his ego did 90% of the damage... but it IS fair to say he was led into a trap Vince, who after 12 years had worked him out and knew which buttons to push. Bret no longer fit and he was dumb enough to fall for it all... was stubborn enough to perpetuate the feud for a long time and is still conceited enough to think he was morally right about it.

Bret's gift was that he is/was Bret Hart, a unique man from a unique family in a unique business at the right time to make it big... over more time it's become his curse, as he and the family name have ceased to be unique, special or important to that business at all... The Hart name is largely forgotten or unknown by the Reigns generation, Natalya does her best, but it's small beer when it comes down to it.
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